Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

[Revolucionar]

All of a sudden another dramatic blow up. The DS/Dems trot out another "incrementing" attack with these Emails as a follow up to the initial Epstein hoopla they pulled everyone into which conveniently came when the admin was beginning to release the Russiagate evidence and coming indictments. Quite successful in diverting attention and sucking all the energy out of that development.

Now this: However, I'm never to optimistic with many things as the obstruction is massive.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1989591305660342510

@SummerLite, do you really believe anything that comes out of the Trump administration at this point? They're almost all complete liars, starting with Trump. He is constantly lying about something and it's becoming tiresome hearing all these excuses for him from the MAGA party online.

This thing with Epstein is a lot deeper than "just" the pedo ring issue. The whole thing coming out would expose Israel and the Deep State and their international dealings. It would lay bare for all to see the machinations of the control system. At least to an extent, and this can't be allowed. Trump is obviously running cover.

Now, about the emails, if they're authentic, they're pretty bad for Trump and indicate that he was most likely a perv of some kind, maybe not a pedo strictly, but a pervy asshole. I wouldn't put it past him. He does give off the vibes.

Some of the emails seem fake to me though, like the one where someone is sending an email to Epstein to let him know they're outside his place and won't come in until Trump leaves. Who sends an email to inform someone that they're outside their door? Maybe this is how they do in deep state child trafficking circles, though. What do I know!?

Anyway, Trump is part of the cabal to a great extent, even if he is a bit of a loose cannon and the face of the faction that has common sense on its side when it comes to the culture wars. Other than that, he's business as usual. Just look at what he's doing on the world stage. Caracas Trump Tower when?

 

[Ruth]

I find Robert Barne's insights into American politics very insightful. He is a self proclaimed 'popularist', with one major, major blind spot - in that he is unable to see Israel's long term and continous involvement in the control of American politics.... Starting (most likely) at the begining of last centuary.... He is a Trump supporter, but has been very critical of many of his cabinet choices. And STILL he is unable to see how all Trump's problems started with the "Epstein who?" quip, in an attempt to distance America from people realising that the government is completely controlled by Israel.

 

[Ruth]

Anyway, Trump is part of the cabal to a great extent, even if he is a bit of a loose cannon and the face of the faction that has common sense on its side when it comes to the culture wars. Other than that, he's business as usual. Just look at what he's doing on the world stage. Caracas Trump Tower when?

I feel he is being both blackmailed (by Israel) and distanced from his base by many of his cabinet members Apparently this is very easy to do as he is so gullible (about power) as well as extremely susceptible to flattery.

 

[SummerLite]

do you really believe anything that comes out of the Trump administration at this point? They're almost all complete liars, starting with Trump. He is constantly lying about something and it's becoming tiresome hearing all these excuses for him from the MAGA party online.

Yes I do. Tulsi Gabbard for one is doing a good job and there are others for sure. Good is being done thankfully.

his thing with Epstein is a lot deeper than "just" the pedo ring issue. The whole thing coming out would expose Israel and the Deep State and their international dealings. It would lay bare for all to see the machinations of the control system. At least to an extent, and this can't be allowed. Trump is obviously running cover.

Of course there is far more going on, not to mention genetic engineering. Obviously running cover? Is that because he's part of it or some other reason. I think peoples expectations are to high for what can be done by Trump under the conditions he finds himself in. I can imagine being in a similar situation since I've had something similar happen only on a much smaller scale. You can't come out and say exactly what's going on and what your plans are. You can't always say the truth which would be very naive and you have to lie sometimes. That's the world of snakes. There are serious consequences involved. Strategic enclosure is necessary. I always give him the benefit of a doubt. After watching him for 9 plus years unedited, I see he is sincere and a good man. You will disagree I'm sure. He has his flaws and isn't perfect, he isn't a polished politician and lacks diplomacy in speech at times. He's a Gemini and has 2 faces.

Now, about the emails, if they're authentic, they're pretty bad for Trump and indicate that he was most likely a perv of some kind, maybe not a pedo strictly, but a pervy asshole. I wouldn't put it past him. He does give off the vibes.

They don't have anything on him. He's never given me a pervy vibe, your wrong about that. No, not a bit of perv.

Caracas Trump Tower when?

Peace through economic cooperation, all prosper which makes war far less likely for different reasons.
You've your opinion I have mine. They don't agree. What you see as obvious, I don't.

it's becoming tiresome hearing all these excuses for him from the MAGA party online.

Peoples views on Trump are of course so very polarized. It's not likely the MAGA people will come over to your point of view so you'll just need to deal with your fatigue some how. Good luck, really. All in all this whole polarized topic is draining, not deserving of to much attention in the larger scheme of things; it's another distraction.

 

[Ruth]

My appologies, this was the Duran conversation with Robert Barnes I meant to post, instead of the one above! Some of his insights into the US 'Deep State'.

 

[SummerLite]

All in all this whole polarized topic is draining, not deserving of to much attention in the larger scheme of things; it's another distraction.

It's another way of dividing people, a favorite weapon. It's better to allow for differences in a more graceful manner.

 

[axj]

Anyway, Trump is part of the cabal to a great extent, even if he is a bit of a loose cannon and the face of the faction that has common sense on its side when it comes to the culture wars. Other than that, he's business as usual. Just look at what he's doing on the world stage. Caracas Trump Tower when?

The cabal really didn't want him and tried to assassinate him. This shows that he is not quite "business as usual".

Peace through economic cooperation, all prosper which makes war far less likely for different reasons.

That does not seem to be true either. Trump was already offered full economic cooperation, but apparently he wants full control of the Venezuelan oil. Hardly a recipe for peace.

All in all this whole polarized topic is draining, not deserving of to much attention in the larger scheme of things; it's another distraction.

Not really, as seeing Trump and his actions clearly is a part of the networking discussions here - which for some reason you still seem to be skeptical of. We are here to perceive reality as clearly and as objectively as possible, which includes questioning our own biases and potential blind spots. As the C's said, it is who you are and what you see that matters the most.

 

[SummerLite]

hat does not seem to be true either. Trump was already offered full economic cooperation, but apparently he wants full control of the Venezuelan oil. Hardly a recipe for peace.

My mistake, I was thinking of the Middle East. I'm waiting to see how this plays out more with Venezuela. I need more details.

All in all this whole polarized topic is draining, not deserving of to much attention in the larger scheme of things; it's another distraction

Not really, as seeing Trump and his actions clearly is a part of the networking discussions here - which for some reason you still seem to be skeptical of. We are here to perceive reality as clearly and as objectively as possible, which includes questioning our own biases and potential blind spots. As the C's said, it is who you are and what you see that matters the most.

Well, it feels draining to me and needs to be kept in its proper place when things become so polarized. It's important to move past that and not linger as it isn't productive but only distracts. I'm not skeptical of the networking process here and have just pointed out when it goes off into an extreme direction I see no bases in reality for, thats networking, correct?
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[Ruth]

The cabal really didn't want him and tried to assassinate him. This shows that he is not quite "business as usual".

I think it's a question of "that was then, and this is now" perspective. He fell into line and now "they" control him. His popularity has of course taken a dive.

 

[Cosmos]

At this point, if I were an American I would pretty much be on the same page as Candace in regards to the political establishment including Trump and just wouldn’t vote again, including for Trump, unless he changes significantly or if someone shows up that is worth voting for.

Yes, we know all the possible positive and decent reasons for why Trump and team might do things strategically now and can’t do otherwise, but at some point you might have to just to say that enough is enough and that Trump and anyone similarly unable or willing to do what the mandate requires (and people voted for and want) might just not be fit or strong enough for the job.

 

[Ben]

I think we've seen enough now to say that Trump is both in an almost impossible situation AND lacking the necessary qualities to effect any real change. People should be psychologically prepared (at least) for the strong possibility that the US will continue to decline at a greater or lesser rate as events unfold. There is always hope but finding it in the political system and associated institutions is tending towards wishful thinking at this point. That's my view, and I didn't have any particular expectations that this administration would succeed but even so it has performed worse than I predicted. It's the messaging coming out of it that gives that impression. Of course the Epstein case was never going to be fully exposed and lead to all the necessary legal action. But to dismiss it in this crass way at every level (Trump's social media, the FBI statements etc.) These last attacks against MTG and Massie are just rock bottom. Combined with these idiocracy style AI videos directly from the White House, this shyster Hegseth and all the 'Department of War' promotional material, the optics are just awful.

It's kind of funny, sometimes entertaining, but this Epstein affair doesn't lend itself to that kind of attitude. If this administration now attacks Venezuela then hopefully we can all put MAGA to rest and try something different.

 

[genero81]

It's a full on clown show at this point. Whatever "winning" Trump may or may not be accomplishing, it certainly isn't against the deep state which is the only way there's any hope of things actually getting better. Anything else is just political theater. I'll be surprised if there isn't a 'blue wave' at midterms. The Republican party is currently a house divided. Any domestic policies Trump is initiating will get reversed before they have a chance to possibly improve the lives of Americans. If that was actually even a real motivation in the first place, or just a ruse. I have a hard time even watching Kash, I'm lying through my teeth and everyone knows it, Patel. Selling bold faced lies as "transparency." America is a train already half way over the cliff racing at full speed. Or so it seems to me.