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Interesting poll on Godlike Production. Was The Ice Shooting Justified? Sixty-six percent of respondents said yes. From abroad, I see this as excessive, an abuse of authority. I think the officer had the option of shooting at the tires, but decided to kill, to act against the life of Renee Good, an American citizen.

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Immigration agent fatally shoots driver in Minneapolis​


The Department of Homeland Security said the woman had weaponized her vehicle, but Minneapolis' mayor said video of the incident didn't show that.

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, whose state won a Supreme Court victory about the Trump administration’s plans to deploy the National Guard to Chicago, tonight is calling on DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to resign.

“For months, Trump’s DHS has wreaked lawless havoc in our neighborhoods. Tear gassing infants, families, and police. Firing their weapons at peaceful citizens. Killing innocent people,” Pritzker said in a statement on social media.
“It’s brutal, unconstitutional, and out of control. It must stop. Kristi Noem must go. Now,” Pritzker wrote.​

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem defended the ICE agent, claiming that she had attempted to run him over. State and local authorities have refuted claims that the shooting was in self-defense. In fact, videos show that the driver never turned toward the agent, but rather tried to escape.

 
In fact, videos show that the driver never turned toward the agent, but rather tried to escape.

The driver definitely tried to escape, but there’s another officer standing at the front corner of the car (the one who fired I guess) and any forward motion is going to basically hit that officer. If there was only the officer we see approach, I’d agree with you.

People should know in the US that if you make any sudden movements around law enforcement officers who are trying to interact with you, you’re likely to get shot. Driving a car at them is basically attempted murder.

Is it right that they got shot? Probably not. But it’s to be expected.
 
What the intent of the driver was, just trying to flee, doesn't matter. The man was in front of her car, which she saw, when she stepped on the gas. There have been so many attacks on Ice, bounties on their heads, doxing of homes, etc, throughout this whole round up I expect much of ICE are angry with these people. There is a history here which is important to understand in the over all picture. This has likely caused more aggressive behavior from some in ICE which is what the perpetrators want to see. The marines should be called in to help which worked well in Washington DC. This womans death of course will be used to the max.
 
Some positive news from the very mixed bag that is the Trump White House:


 
Interesting poll on Godlike Production. Was The Ice Shooting Justified? Sixty-six percent of respondents said yes. From abroad, I see this as exces...

Seems awfully convenient that just as massive amounts of heat were being given to Walz and the democrats with all of this fraud business(which is obviously happening in every state at pretty much every level) that this happens.

I am wondering, knowing that a swath of OP's are in law enforcement(I am assuming its the same with ICE) if this person could have been influenced in this moment by 4D STS, or if he was some kind of plant. I put myself in their shoes and can see how it was this opportunity to create an extreme amount of divisiveness with the "right" and also use it as a way to galvanize the "left" and of course all of their OP's fall right in line. Within hours massive protests start happening(not an american flag in sight btw) all of the banners are flying, people are marching the streets with candles. It doesn't even seem real, and I don't think it is.

I consider the fact that they can manipulate past, present and future. We know they can influence OP's, to a level where they can inject them in to someones life to destroy them, and stuff like that. I don't think having one of them activated in a certain moment to carry out an objective is anything out of the ordinary. If they want to push us towards civil war/revolt/anarchy, this is a prime example of how they can do that.

Anyways just a thought I had about it, I always try to factor in the 4D part of the equation.. I am quite certain that its well within their means to do something like this.

This was 100% excessive force. It almost seemed feral the way he just unloaded on her.
 
From what I'm seeing the agent that approached the vehicle attempted to open her door. At that point, she was spooked and would not have been capable of thinking rationally, and neither would anyone else in her situation. She then had no option but to escape, and it is by no means clear that she viewed the shooting agent in time. However, the shooting agent did as anyone would in his situation.

So I don't understand the agent trying to open her door (and I don't understand her for being there, but that's not relevant).
 
I've looked at that whole video of the car in complete puzzlement and I don't see a panicked agent. If the video had music to it, it would be a classical (W)altz (couldn't resist the Capital W there...). I also thought of the sudden influence of the PTB on people who perhaps could be those latent zombies from Covid vaxThis along the lines that @Weontv mentioned.

I'd be really interested in the reactions of the other ICE agents. Can't imagine they'd all be OK with the shooting.

The effect of this shooting, no matter your political position, is so incendiary, it almost seems too opportune!
 
He wasn't. At no point did he show any signs of panic or being threatened. Instead, he leaned into the shot and went after her for trying to escape.
Did he lean into her car for any amount of time before he shot as in could he have been assuming she would stop and shot when she didn't? He kept shooting when he was pushed to the side but that apparently is standard procedure once you deem it necessary to start shooting.
 
He wasn't. At no point did he show any signs of panic or being threatened. Instead, he leaned into the shot and went after her for trying to escape.

I agree. What I see, FWIW, is that the ICE agent was playing Dirty Harry: "C'mon punk, make my day". It seems to me that he stepped in front of the vehicle to prevent her from fleeing but this was a calculated move. He could and he did easily get out of harms way when the car started to move forward but that gave him an excuse to shot and kill her on the spot. Standing in front of the car gave him the excuse to say that he was shooting in self defense.

Honestly, how can anybody believe that he was shooting in self defense when the last shot was fired from the side, after he was out of the car's path. And, also, what does self defense mean in this context? In this case the defensive action is to step out of the way. Shooting didn't prevent the car from moving forward and, as far as the ICE agent's safety is concerned, shooting didn't make any difference.
 
This may add understanding for the ICE guy's reaction. Under more favorable conditions this wouldn't have happened at all. It looks like the instructions being given to obstructionists and illegals is "do not comply" when approached by law enforcement, and this woman didn't. Thats what opens the door for aggression in all cases I've seen in many police arrest videos. Always comply or your in for a world of sh*t.

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Here's the video but I don't see the man being dragged,

 
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Former governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura opinion
... You wanna know something? I'll give you a quote. We're a third world country now. You wanna know why? I'm an expert. I've been to one. I spent 17 months in Southeast Asia while the draft dodger was playing golf, right? You know how I know we're a third world country? Because in third world countries, they have the military doing their police work in the cities when you walk around. I was in the Philippines the day Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law and went under dictatorship. We went from nobody to a guy with a machine gun on every corner. That's what happens in a dictatorship. In comes the military. That's what's happening here, and, and people better wake up to it. You wanna read something? Then read your history of Germany, and start comparing the tactics of what happened in 1930s Germany to what's happening here. The first thing I actually got- Read history. You learn from history. Any time you have the loss of life that d- it needlessly happens, that's tragedy, and what occurred yesterday did not have to happen.

There are all kinds of responses to Ventura's comment, but it seems that some MAGAS want to normalize tyranny under the banner of legality.

Ventura's message reminded me of the prophecy by the Cs that the US would be hated like Nazi Germany.​
 
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