Trying to help or just being arrogant

[loreta]

You know, sometimes the best way to help someone is doing nothing. Stay quiet. In certain cases it works, but I understand your frustration. The important thing is to be yourself, in your quest. This is the best way to show to others the road you think is the best. That's what I mean when sometimes is better to do nothing, just be you.

I am myself someone who has a tendency to help others but I decided to stop, everyone will wake up when it will be their time, their special moment. It is a special moment to wake up and it is an individual action, a personal moment, an insight very intimate to one self. I was not wake up some years ago, than one day, as if an angel had came during the night, I changed. This moment is personal and you can not force it. It is a miracle that everyone has in is pocket.

Another thing is to be helped by people like Sott and Laura, who are giving their time and energy for us. But we wanted to receive this help.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

I am myself someone who has a tendency to help others but I decided to stop, everyone will wake up when it will be their time, their special moment. It is a special moment to wake up and it is an individual action, a personal moment, an insight very intimate to one self.

The problem is that any moment of realization or insight is useless without applying oneself towards changing our entropic existence. In other words, I don't think "waking up" is a moment - it is a lifetime of effort, and no moment of lucidity is true awakening - at best it is a brief glimpse of the terror of the situation right before we fall back asleep and continue to dream that we're waking up. The danger is giving that moment more significance than it is due, and thinking that we're somehow free from the internal and external programs and subjectivity just because of that moment.

But I do agree that you cannot "force it" - that you wake up when you're ready. On the other hand, you can't wake up without "forcing it" either, but only once you're at the point where it is a conscious struggle/suffering rather than purely subjective.

 

[loreta]

The problem is that any moment of realization or insight is useless without applying oneself towards changing our entropic existence. In other words, I don't think "waking up" is a moment - it is a lifetime of effort, and no moment of lucidity is true awakening - at best it is a brief glimpse of the terror of the situation right before we fall back asleep and continue to dream that we're waking up. The danger is giving that moment more significance than it is due, and thinking that we're somehow free from the internal and external programs and subjectivity just because of that moment.

Maybe it is because my English is bad and it is not my language, what I mean is that this moment is the beginning of a change, it is not just a moment and then you continue as if nothing. No. This moment is a no way return, it is the beginning of your new road, and it is not an easy road. But you wake up when it is your right time, and this time is individual. I agree with what you say, but you know writing in English when thinking in Spanish and french is not easy for me! ;)

Loreta

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