Tunguska genetic anomaly and electrophonic meteors

Pob said:
Laura said:
Third the proposed elements that can "transduce" the "sound" of such things.... HAIR can be a transducer.... that it can, in some way, act as an "antenna". One then thinks of "long haired franks" and nazarites and Samson and his strength "in his hair" and so on.
That's interesting. having had a crew cut for about 10+ years, for the past couple of months now for no discernible reason, I've had the urge to grow my hair long and have been doing so. -. Probably coincidence but just thought I'd share this observation.

This discussion of hair also brings to mind the "fairy tale" of Rapunzel, who was imprisoned by evil, but eventually "used her head" and escaped her prison "by a hair"-- actually, a braid of hair ("a three-fold cord is not easily broken"). One day, Rapunzel "let's her hair down" to a noble prince who heard her singing from her "cage." Rather than waiting on her hair to grow longer, the prince hastens Rapunzel's escape by bringing her silk (see below) to weave into a ladder.

So, this "fairy tale" is rich with symbolism, including perhaps the literal ability of hair to transduce and silk to protect

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Q: (L) So, we'll be poisoning ourselves twice! (A) Right!
A: Unless detector that is adjustable is added and tuned to precise canceling frequency.
Q: (L) I think it would be cheaper to move. (A) A broad band wave generator, like a damaged florescent tube produces all kinds of EM noise. But if you tune the frequency. (L) Well, you have to have a detector AND a tuner. Cheaper to move.
A: Better, too!
Q: (A) There must be some way to make the body less vulnerable to these things.
A: Silk clothing and headgear.
Q: (A) I know! Aluminum pyramids! [Laughter.]
A: With silk lining.
 
Indeed, hair in relation to comets is threaded throughout folklore. Mike Baille highlighted this in Irish stories:

http://www.celt.dias.ie/publications/tionol/baillie02.pdf

Baille said:
If, for the sake of argument, we take it that Lugh is a comet-god (irrespective of whether he was also a solar deity) then it seems very likely that Cúchulainn [pronounced "Ku-kullen"] should also be a comet-god.

After all, Cúchulainn is not just the son of Lugh, he is the re-birth of Lugh, i.e. Lugh back again. In the light of a comet scenario even this expression, “rebirth...back again” takes on a new significance. However, there are things about Cúchulainn that are independently suggestive of some comet links. In the story of his paroxysm (widely known and only paraphrased here) Cúchulainn has three layers of hair, brown, crimson and like a gold diadem.

Then he has the following decoration:

“For like the shining of yellow gold was each glittering, curling beauty-coloured thread as free and loose it fell down and hung between his shoulders

[...]

Basically it is suggested that a comet entering the earth’s magnetosphere might trigger a massive auroral display with “charged particles spiralling down the lines of force”. If we add that detail, which could refer to “each glittering, curling, beauty-coloured thread as free and loose it fell down”, to the known published representations of 19th century comets with three distinctive layers of coma looking exactly like hair, with an inner bright forehead (Sagan and Druyan 1985; 149-153), we have a pretty good picture of what the ancient observers may have been trying to convey. Again the aurora would be well described by the “jet of dusky blood...scattering to the four cardinal points“. So several elements of Cúchulainn’s description are consistent with what might happen if a comet passed frighteningly close to the earth. What may, or may not, be missing is the loading of the atmosphere with comet derived material and megaton class airbursts caused by associated fragments of the comet exploding in the atmosphere.

And of course, "comet" literally comes from "hair":

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/comet

comet·ary (--tr), co·metic (k-mtk) adj.

Word History: Comets have been feared throughout much of human history, and even in our own time their goings and comings receive great attention. Perhaps a comet might seem less awesome if we realized that our name for it is based on a figurative resemblance between it and humans. This figurative name is recorded first in the works of Aristotle, in which he uses kom, the Greek word for "hair of the head," to mean "luminous tail of a comet." Aristotle then uses the derived word komts, "wearing long hair," as a noun meaning "comet." The Greek word was adopted into Latin as comts, which was refashioned in Late Latin and given the form comta, furnishing Old English with comta, the earliest English ancestor of our word comet.
 
Just a couple of things that I've run across recently that are indirectly related to the discussion on this thread, as well as the idea of mutations occurring during cataclysmic events:

First, there is a fairly recent radio show by James McCanney here where he discusses the interaction between electricity and biological systems. The relevant part is in about the middle of the show, and includes a discussion about astrology being an emergent effect of cosmic electrical interaction (one example he gives is Mercury being in retrograde, and the strange things that happen during that time having to do with the Earth-Sun-Mercury alignment and concomitant electrical effects).

Then, there is this recent article on the Thunderbolts site:

Electric Biology
Dec 30, 2010
Experiments with electrostatic fields might illuminate biological diversity.

A major problem in biology is the internal motion of proteins. Researchers from the University of Pennsylvania using Magnetic Resonance Imaging were surprised to discover that the calmodulin protein molecule possesses an internal "jitter" that shakes it billions of times per second. This revelation led them to conclude that it is not merely the complex folded shape of such molecules that affects their function, but their internal movement.

According to Dr. Joshua Wand, “The situation is akin to the discussion in astrophysics in which theoreticians predict that there is dark matter, or energy, that no one has yet seen.”

Where the internal energy necessary for protein binding comes from is unknown at the present time, but it seems likely, based on research with electrostatic fields on various organisms, that there is an electrical component to the source. Cell walls are arranged in a double layer configuration with positive and negative ion channels built-in.

A book called The Primeval Code (Der Urzeit-Code) was recently published in Switzerland, detailing experiments that demonstrate how a changing electric field can alter gametes so much that new species are created.

According to author Luc Bürgin, "In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an 'electrostatic field' – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows. Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible."

Electric Universe advocates recognize that plasma is a self-organizing phenomenon. Indeed, Irving Langmuir coined the name because he saw that collections of charged particles isolate themselves from their surroundings in ways that are similar to biological systems. A cell membrane could be thought of as a Langmuir plasma sheath, sustaining a voltage difference between the negatively charged interior and the positively charged exterior. Electric currents most likely maintain charge separation across the membrane layers.

Perhaps these observations can all be tied together. Sheldrake's "morphic fields," protein jitter, gamete alteration that leads to speciation, and the electric charges in cells might all be manifestations of plasma's emergent properties. At some time in the past, as these pages have repeatedly emphasized, Earth's electrical properties were substantially altered when other highly charged objects or ionic clouds passed close to our plasmasphere.

Intense electric arcs swept across the surface of the Earth, creating powerful electromagnetic fields that could have transmuted biological organisms in the same way that they changed the atomic structure of elements and minerals. The famous Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that inorganic compounds exposed to electric currents can be altered to form organic chemicals like amino acids.

Given the report in The Primeval Code, it would not be too great a stretch to think that electric currents might cause proteins to shake at varying rates, thus changing their behavior, or triggering morphic fields to change state, creating new forms of life. Symbiosis, a longtime thorn in the side of evolutionary biology, might find its genesis in electricity.

Stephen Smith

The above made me think of what Laura had discussed here:

There IS evidence for mutation collected in "The Diluvian Impact" and "Man and Impact in the Americas" in the form of legends of mutants that began to appear after impact events. Most of these legends have to do with alterations in body size (either giants or dwarves) and raging cannibalism. The two seem to have gone together.

...and that mutation might occur as the result of a direct impact event, but may also be possible even in a "near miss" situation, if there was enough electrical activity involved. These wouldn't have to be mutually exclusive if, for example, multiple cometary bodies were involved.
 
Very interesting radio interview! Here's what McCanney says this about the origins of oil:

McCanney said:
How did the oil get down there to 18,000 feet under the ocean floor, how did that oil get there? Some of these oil deposits are at 35,000 feet. Where were the fern forests that allegedly created this oil? Well, of course, it's absolutely ridiculous! Something very different happened. The story proposed by standard science, that the Earth formed billions of years ago, all in one time, is ridiculous! The source of oil did not come from fern forests and dinosaur bones, it came from some very different process. It didn't just magically appear in the middle of the ground in vast oceans by some magical process... it came from the Earth passing through comet tails. Earth itself was a comet at one time in the solar system forming the structure that we now see.

Comets are very electrical, they take basic chemical elements, e.g. hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and they build all of these types of chemicals - the basic forms of chemicals we see like ammonia - all are these are formed in comet tails. Then Earth will pass through these comet tails - some of them, especially the big ones - where we're basically drawing in a tremendous amount of material over a period of time, which then becomes part of our Earth. That's where water came from, that's where the Great Flood came from... remember that Earth's oceans were 600 feet below what they are today. Between 300 and 600 feet of water covered the entire Earth in the last Great Flood, which man actually lived through and was able to write about!

Comets are very essential contributors to planets like Earth.
 
Shijing said:
Just a couple of things that I've run across recently that are indirectly related to the discussion on this thread, as well as the idea of mutations occurring during cataclysmic events:

First, there is a fairly recent radio show by James McCanney here where he discusses the interaction between electricity and biological systems. The relevant part is in about the middle of the show, and includes a discussion about astrology being an emergent effect of cosmic electrical interaction (one example he gives is Mercury being in retrograde, and the strange things that happen during that time having to do with the Earth-Sun-Mercury alignment and concomitant electrical effects).

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this Shijing. I had some similar ideas while reading his book that there may be some connections between astrology and the electrical interactions between the planets that he mentions. Gurdjieff may have been hinting about this when he talked about how tension between the planets caused social strife on Earth too.

Also, in the audio McCanney mentions conjunctions with Venus causing the flu. There is an interesting webpage by another author that describes this here:

http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/vel/iamds.htm

I'll just include the beginning since there are a number of images and formatting that would be difficult to reproduce here. The graphs are essential for seeing the connection, imo.

A Search for Evidence of
Interplanetary and Atmospheric
Microbial Delivery Systems

In her book on the 1918 influenza(1) Gina Kolata calls attention to the often repeated phenomenon of how influenza epidemics can move quickly through a country, "hopscotching over some towns while felling others." She reports that "After an influenza pandemic of 1789, a young American doctor named Robert Johnson puzzled over how the infection could spread so far and wide, and so quickly" Dr. Johnson had discussed the rapid outbreaks in Great Britain and on ships at sea. Kolata reports that the 1918 flu's mortality rates peaked in Boston and Bombay in the same week, but New York, just a few hours from Boston, had its peak three weeks later" Kolata reports that Johnson finally decided that "influenza must arise from some sort of changes in the atmosphere but that, once it got started, it could spread from person to person."(Ref. 1, pp. 62-64)

In 1950, amongst his other breaches of scientific protocol, Immanuel Velikovsky claimed that ancient texts provided evidence that various life forms, including some insects, exist in the atmosphere of Venus, and that in about 1450 BC some of those life forms were transported alive to Earth in the (then) comet-like tail of Venus.(2)

In 1953 Sir Fred Hoyle is reported to have informed Velikovsky that "his work was not properly scientific." Even so, Hoyle eventually came to champion the idea that pathogenic bacteria and viruses are brought to Earth by comet tails and meteor streams.(3) He and his colleague Chandra Wickrasminghe found evidence that the severity of influenza epidemics seems to be related to sunspot activity.

In 2000 a research team lead by another long-time colleague of Hoyle, Jalent Narlikar, reported (to the SPIE) what they consider unambiguous evidence of the presence of clumps of living cells [from space] in air samples from as high as 41 kilometers above the Earth's surface.(4)

But are the 2000 findings the "first evidence" of live drop-ins?

There is an earlier report on what was speculated to have been a "dropping-in on Earth" of alien bacteria which occurred during the middle part of the twentieth century. The report was published in 1963 by Donald Barber, who had just retired as Director of the Norman Lockyer Observatory at Sidmouth England. His article(5) documents a series of nine "unidentifiable" rain-water borne bacterial invasions which occurred at the Lockyer observatory between 1936 and 1961. Based on the bacteria's phenomenally rapid liquefaction property (of astronomical photographic plate emulsions), its toleration to highly toxic silver halide salts, and the unique correlation of their arrival times with certain "space weather related" events, Barber came to speculate that the bacteria were of extraterrestrial origin.

This presentation gives highlights of Barber's findings and uses them as a springboard to investigate another set of potentially exobiological visitors.

From http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/vel/1918.htm.

In Barber's article he stated, "An American suggestion that the virus responsible for endemic influenza emanated from the planet Venus, led to a fresh examination of the 1937/1948 Sidmouth data, and also to a search among the large collection of spectrograms obtained at Sidmouth prior to 1937 for earlier evidence of bacterial attack. As a result of the latter, two earlier outbreaks--one probable event in 1930, and a second well-determined occasion in 1932--were discovered."

It was found that the onsets of six confirmed Lockyer major microbial invasions occurred, on average, 55 days following inferior conjunctions of Venus, when accompanied by strong geomagnetic storms.* (The shortest interval between conjunction and outbreak was 35 days and the longest was 67 days.)

Actually the delays summarized by Barber pertained to the time between the geomagnetic storms, which occurred timewise closely to the conjunctions, and the onsets of the bacterial invasions. [Added 13 May 2008.]

It goes on for several pages on the web link above.

On a side note: somebody needs to send McCanney some information on dangers of gluten! :rolleyes:
 
RyanX said:
On a side note: somebody needs to send McCanney some information on dangers of gluten! :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know! He reminds me of John Keel in that, for an independent researcher, he's done quite well on his own but there are still things here and there that he's missed. He's really into flax and freeze-dried food, but doesn't know anything about gluten. It seems as though this could also apply to his dietary philosophy:

Dec 10 said:
A: He is on the right the track; but there are other phenomena that are not explained in his model.

Thanks for the link above on Venus and the flu, and I'm looking forward to reading it as soon as I have a chance!
 
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