Two jet fighters escorting a UFO?

parallel said:
Also the engine roar seems to be exactly in sync with where camera is, isn't there always a delay? (perhaps only with supersonic speeds).

I thought the engine roar was pretty accurate for what you would hear in such a situation based on past experience.
 
One thing that throws me off is the camera starts off recording
a shaking view of the feet/ground then suddenly pans the sky
at the right moment within a tree-corridor to catch the Jets/Ufo,
as if a-priori? This is not done once, but twice?

Somehow it reminds me of the methods/technique used in the
Blair Witch Project, as if to stir up emotions and confusion with
a shaking camera (strobbing effect) to prime the viewer into a
heightening state of mind, an opener?

Just a thought...
 
Foxx said:
It also seems a little overly dramatized with the camera-person running and sort of just catching it-

I dunno. We have some of those fancy French fighter jets zooming over our house about once a week and by the time you hear them overhead, and look out the window, they are like 15 or 20 KM gone. (Or more, I'm bad with estimating distances. I just know that when I hear them over the house and look out, they are already over the hills way on the other side of the river.)
 
Fake.

The jets are too close to each other, and too close to the UFO. Jets are so close like that only on air shows, because it is dangerous and no need for such close formation. Especially at slow speeds and low altitude like in the video, they are barely not stalling.

I would say that person which made that knows lot about CGI but less about planes.
 
Laura said:
Foxx said:
It also seems a little overly dramatized with the camera-person running and sort of just catching it-

I dunno. We have some of those fancy French fighter jets zooming over our house about once a week and by the time you hear them overhead, and look out the window, they are like 15 or 20 KM gone. (Or more, I'm bad with estimating distances. I just know that when I hear them over the house and look out, they are already over the hills way on the other side of the river.)

True, though I was more referring to it in the context of the rest of the video with a similar styling to Blair Witch as Dant mentioned and the stories that would likely play out in people's minds when viewing it (mainly 3D aliens).

It's so hard to tell with videos these days--both with probably more fantastic things coming and the technologies for faking videos. Arbitrium Liberum has quite a good point, but they were also flying low--maybe trying to be discreet? Maybe autopiloted?

I don't know, but it smells a little funny. :)
 
Fwiw, made an image to describe a composite job for people who may not know what to look at if everything else looks plausible in a perceived doctored image. At least some of the bedroom hoaxers or professional rush jobs can be outed by looking at pixel borders. On the bottom of image is a brief on how layers are stacked.

#1 zoom shows the added object layer's (fish) blend on background layer (sky) which shows an orderly blend of antialiasing (jagged edges blending), even if the object had motion blur added it is very time consuming to simulate the same qualities of motion blur from original image.

#2 zoom shows what is called a halo effect, which happens when the obstruction layer's antialiasing (tree), which is lifted from background layer, has the sky color remnant in it's antialiasing (#3 zoom) and blends badly with inbetween object. This too can be tweaked but can be very time consuming.

Another thing to look for is the 'compression artifacts' which comes from cameras compression algorithm (#3 zoom) which if you insert a CG object on top from a different environment won't blend so good, this is sometimes blended with either an artifact layer on the CG object or a general smudging by adding a new noise layer on top of composite. To hide noise/ compression artifact discrepancies is easy (but some seem to miss it) and hard to spot as proof, as it seems to have a life of it's own, especially after having compressed the composition once or twice (Such as the image below, many of the sharper edges got smudged by .jpg format).

fishtree.jpg
 
Well I wouldn't be flying in a close V formation if I didn't knew what the lead aircraft was going to do at any moment. Certainly not that close. If these two aircraft (F18's?) were indeed chasing an UFO, the number 2 or buddy aircraft would be a distance off and in trail formation (behind the front aircraft) to provide cover to the front or lead aircraft.

It seems possible that this video was a formation of 3 fighters in V formation, flying during an airshow perhaps and someone edited the video and changed the lead or front aircraft to look like an UFO? If only a member here, can prove that the video was indeed manipulated? :huh:
 
Vulcan59 said:
It seems possible that this video was a formation of 3 fighters in V formation, flying during an airshow perhaps and someone edited the video and changed the lead or front aircraft to look like an UFO? If only a member here, can prove that the video was indeed manipulated? :huh:
That they have lifted it from an airshow would be a good possibility, that would explain for the well synched sound.
Was not too awake when I scanned the clip earlier in the thread, but think now that I found more damming evidence than artifact incoherence.
Circle 1 and 2 show the halo effect (a 'lifted' object blending badly on a new backdrop). Which can also be seen in the masking of shack, frame 210. Circle 2, 3 and 4 show the twig which sticks out behind the shack; notice how in circle 2 it's normal, in circle 3 it blends with plane pixels. In circle 3 there is clear evidence of an angular mask used cutting the twig completely away, nothing which can be ascribed to artifact generation, as twig bluntly appears again in frame 212. This is even clearer if one steps between frame 209-212 in a viewer with zoom function.

planes2.jpg


Edit: just looked at it again and now it seems the twig in some way could be just jumping in an 'artifacting' manner from being free from the plane. Have a look at a zoomed scrubbing video of the particular sequence : _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjsMqFJdLTM&feature=g-upl&context=G2a1025dAUAAAAAAAAAA
Hmm, don't know if the proof is that strong after all, but definetly some strange artifacts going on there.
 

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