Typhoon Haiyan

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Sven

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When 3000 died in the WTC attacks, the world virtually stopped.

10,000 are dead in the Philippines and not one fuck is being given. News organizations are only reporting on it because it would seem insensitive not to mention it and because no other big news stories going on right now are "NEW".

It's amazing how little anyone cares. I think, even if 5 Asian countries were wiped off the map totally, as long as they didn't include China, South Korea or Japan, no one would even mind.
 
Sven said:
When 3000 died in the WTC attacks, the world virtually stopped.

10,000 are dead in the Philippines and not one -flick- is being given. News organizations are only reporting on it because it would seem insensitive not to mention it and because no other big news stories going on right now are "NEW".

It's amazing how little anyone cares. I think, even if 5 Asian countries were wiped off the map totally, as long as they didn't include China, South Korea or Japan, no one would even mind.
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At SOTT there are several news regarding Typhoon Haiyan over Philipines and other countries.
But I supposed yes, unfortunately, in big media news, they have their own lines/guides. And this typhoon is another sign of this times. Do not know where you live, here, in Mexico broadcastings/news papers, destruction over Philipines by Typhoon Haiyan is being covered. I had heard people talking about this destruction on the streets.

http://www.sott.net/article/268565-Typhoon-Haiyan-nears-Vietnam-600000-evacuated-officials
http://www.sott.net/article/268555-Typhoon-Haiyan-Philippines-deadliest-recorded-natural-disaster
http://www.sott.net/article/268554-Its-like-the-end-of-the-world-Typhoon-Haiyan-feared-to-have-killed-ten-thouand-Filipinos-in-one-of-the-most-powerful-storms-ever-recorded
http://www.sott.net/article/268552-Super-typhoon-Haiyan-leaves-at-least-10000-dead-in-Philippines
http://www.sott.net/article/268535-10000-feared-killed-in-Philippines-by-super-typhoon-Haiyan
 
Well the point I'm trying to make is that white people are conditioned to value a white persons death. However when a non white person dies then the concept of value is absent. Make no mistake there is always a white man running the show.
 
Sven said:
Well the point I'm trying to make is that white people are conditioned to value a white persons death. However when a non white person dies then the concept of value is absent. Make no mistake there is always a white man running the show.
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I understand that is your experience/perception, but I am white and do not value deaths by color. Psychopaths, on the other hand, is well known that do not give a dam about deaths, even if they are the culprits (mass deaths as wars), the system, the media system is run mostly by psychopaths or people that go along with them, being in power, they know they can do everything, and they do. I do not know the statistics per race, but there are of every race. I can understand your point because I used to use words, in a generalized form. I understand better for example: "there is always a psychopath running the show", In fact that is what is happening in almost every country.
 
This forum seems very PC. Are you allowed to talk about the possibility that there may be a correlation between race and psychopathy.
 
It is not. However, psychopathy is defined very precisely and cannot be used loosly. There is a fundamental difference between a psychopath, a sociopath, a person who is just dumbed down intellectually and emotionally, etc. Multilevel and complex issues are not treated with black and white thinking. If your read through the forum you will see that many different hypothese have been discussed. What is a race anyway? Also, what is a psychopath? Without a proper understanding one falls into generalizations that lead nowhere but confusion and fanaticism. You can read the books on psychopathy for a better understanding, and the many forum threads for the different discussions about the subject.
Hope it helps.
 
No it doesn't help. You are basically sweeping away a subject that should be explored because some may be offended. You are a moderator here and are shutting me down, I understand.
 
Sven said:
This forum seems very PC. Are you allowed to talk about the possibility that there may be a correlation between race and psychopathy.
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Why do you think is very PC?... and mostly what is PC? I have to leave, and others may follow your curiosity. Also, I just noticed that you are new to the forum, you are invited to make an introductory post in the Newbies section http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=39.0; just to let us know how you find this forum and what kind of material you had been reading.

In the case, if I am allowed to talk about the possibility of a correlation between race and psychopathy in this forum, I think yes, I am allowed, but I do not know, cannot confirmed for sure which kind of race, there are many races in the universe ... there are threads here that talks about psychopathy.

You can start here:
Cassiopaea Forum/Science/Psychology & Cognitive Science
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/board,74.0.html
and its child boards threads: Political Ponerology: Macrosocial Evil and Psychopaths at Home, at work, and in the Garden
 
Sven said:
No it doesn't help. You are basically sweeping away a subject that should be explored because some may be offended. You are a moderator here and are shutting me down, I understand.
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If it doesn't help it's up to you, but nobody's shutting you down, that's just your perception. The prevalence of psychopathy, especially "sociopathy", as well as the different modes of ponerisation, in certain human groups has been discussed elsewhere in the forum. If you don't want to search for it, that's your choice. No need to play the victim.
 
Sven said:
No it doesn't help. You are basically sweeping away a subject that should be explored because some may be offended. You are a moderator here and are shutting me down, I understand.
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It is quite simple. Nobody is shutting you down, merely asking you enter into a discussion that is more than just an exchange of aimless opinions.

For discussion to be useful here it requires data, facts, clarification of terms, as well as theories and possibilities in order to reach an understanding. There are forums full of people who are happy to discuss such ideas without the need for data or facts or a shared understanding of terms – this is not such a forum.
 
I did a search (what search parameters should I use) but I could find no discussion of Database: PsycINFO
[ Dissertation ]
The relationship between race and psychopathy: An evaluation of selected psychometric properties of the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) for incarcerated African American men.
Toldson, Ivory Achebe
Dissertation Abstracts International: Section B: The Sciences and Engineering, Vol 63(1-B), Jul 2002, 553.

Which is a IMO a important study.
 
Thanks Sven for the reference. It's a 304 pages PhD dissertation from Temple University, 2002.
The abstract can be read here: _http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2002-95014-194

The study has been done on the incarcerated population in a US prison. It concerns only failed psychopaths (those who commit violent crimes and get caught). There is no way IMHO to generalize the results of this particular study to wider populations and other forms of psychopathy. OSIT.
 
Looks like an interesting study. From my extensive reading on the topic, it seems that psychopathy is higher or more vicious among whites and I've speculated that this could be due to an admixture of Neanderthal genes. You can use the search term "neanderthal" in the forum here to find a discussion along that line. I also wrote about it in "Psychopathy and the Sixth Extinction" I believe, published on SOTT. The Cs have also mentioned that the most "monstrous personality disorders" occur among Caucasians and I suspect that this is why.

Since all of this has been discussed before, I don't see any reason to reinvent the wheel unless you have something new to bring to the table.
 
Sven said:
When 3000 died in the WTC attacks, the world virtually stopped.

10,000 are dead in the Philippines and not one -flick- is being given. News organizations are only reporting on it because it would seem insensitive not to mention it and because no other big news stories going on right now are "NEW".

It's amazing how little anyone cares. I think, even if 5 Asian countries were wiped off the map totally, as long as they didn't include China, South Korea or Japan, no one would even mind.
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Even in US, there is lot of coverage. check CNN. We all know that main stream media has agenda's. Is this agenda is fixed set of overt rules like race?. Mostly not. WTC attacks is part of monstrous agenda. So I don't think comparison is valid.
 
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