UnitedHealthcare CEO shot to death in Manhattan

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I found this interesting and related it directly to what we learned about petty tyrants - that they are buffers (typically one of several) between you and the actual decision makers at higher levels - they are just "doing their jobs" within the confines of strict rules, are not empowered to see shades of gray nor bend any rule, their human feelings (if they have any) are not reachable, and they cannot be reasoned with.

If this charge about AI decision making is true, then it's a real-world example of AI stepping into the role of petty tyrant (and scapegoat).

Of course, this has been going on a long time in the medical industry, with "watchers" behind your doctor, ensuring that if any of your test numbers stray from the normal range, that you are leaned upon to comply with the medical guidelines and take that drug they're pushing.

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UnitedHealthcare accused of relying on AI algorithms to deny Medicare Advantage claims

United Healthcare is being accused of denying a growing number of claims for post-acute care as it shifted to using artificial intelligence to automate the process.
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Nević Nenad said:
I wonder will they arrest actor Jake Gyllenhaal?
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I thought he looked like that Olympic boxer. Or Tony Montana from Scarface. And from the first picture of him with the partially covered face, I thought he looked British, because his long narrow nose ridge.

He interacted with people - where he is shown smiling... so.... did he have a accent?
Speak broken English?
That kind of information should be available because it was a interaction with the public - unless the authorities asked them to keep it confidential, perhaps if it was an illegal, or lgtb person. That would cause political embarrassment. But then why divulge info about the writings on the bullet? Because they wanted the public to know that, obviously.
Anyway, the backpack is recovered - If he had something to say, maybe he left it in is his pack. A manifesto, or social media likes, notorious killers whom he might admire, or indications of having lots of cash. Phone numbers, ect.
 
It looks like on one of the news feeds (CNN), there are more laughing emoji’s than crying ones on the comments! That’s quite cynical, and it reflects on what people really feel about the state of health care and how for profit insurance companies do not really help anyone except the profiteering corporates. This video explores that perspective further:
 
I'm skeptical about the authenticity of all these social media posts supporting the killing of this CEO. It's a contrivance, although it stirred sentiment that snowballed, and now it is it's own phenomenon. And this deflects attention away from the crime itself, as originally intended. So now the media has to address why it got out of control.
I think it inflamed Democrat anger over the outcome of the election, and it is channeled into this incident.
Maybe it began as a diversion tactic to apply a false motivation - like in a protest, agents will infiltrate the crowd and incite riots, escalating it to justify forceful measures... but if you make the victim look evil, which most agree insurance company practices are, you side with this sentiment in the context of this crime. You commit incitefulness to create backlash.
So, there is real incentive to direct anger away from the investigation to the condemnation of known insurance practices. And voter (democrat) anger is channeled into this diversionary ruse to accomplish this.
Sure, there is anger towards corruption, but I think this phenomenon was helped by social media methods. So, when I see someone talking about this problem, I think of it in terms of a problem/solution ruse, combined with a cover up.
So, again, as in Trumps previous term, we have to consider the sickness in these areas of America, which are large cities which are Democrat controlled, and it is largely limited to their regions and not a reflection of America as a whole.
 
I was thinking about the shooting of Brian Thompson - The actual footage....

He looks rather burley... kind of wide. And when you see his face in recent photos, his head is like-wise burley/wide. So, I'm wondering why - with security experts commenting on how surprised they were he didn't have better security - the question of bulletproof vests never comes up.

When you see him getting shot, he appears to take several steps forward, like the bullet impact really pushed him forward. He takes several steps forward before falling... then he gets shot in the leg, but that's not too clear in the video. But what footage of him there is, he looks like a tank.
And, at that close of range that the killer got to him, why he didn't shoot him in the head? Isn't that a sure way to kill him? A big guy like that might absorb bullets and survive.
Was he wearing a bulletproof vest, and bled out from a leg wound?
The way reporting is covered these days is centered upon getting the most views... consequently, the details are kept minimum, and dosed out with single facts at a time... never is any reporting investigative, it is leading... one article to the next. On this point alone, they are operating the same way insurance companies get rich. They promise to inform, (heal) but for the sake of viewership, (money) provide the least possible to maintain their own worth.
 

Gilman Class of 2016 Honored at 119th Founders Day​


In the valedictory, Luigi Mangione credited his classmates for their “inventive, pioneering mentality that accompanies a strong commitment to Gilman tradition.”

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Each year the leading scholar from each Middle and Upper School grade is awarded a William S. Thomas Scholarship Prize. This year’s Upper School
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IMO, those Medicare Advantage plans are rot. Common for quite reasonable services to be denied outright. On claims paid, almost 100% get a RAC audit, which means a clawback of funds if one does not pass the chart audit, and a lot of cases don't pass for the most trivial of reasons. Worse, they can extrapolate their "fraud" percentage to apply to all of your work for them. That's the provider end. On the consumer end there is a geographic boundary for 'coverage', as in only covering claims made in a small region, typically just your section of your state of residence. There are all kinds of bonuses for signing on to these plans. When I was about to turn 65, there were sales agents actually knocking on my door!
The main way they make so much money is by an agreement to relieve Medicare of 100% of the cost of your care. Medicare then pays them a boatload, based on patient risk categories. Once you sign up, a nurse visits for a friendly checkup, but is really there to come up with information that can and will be used to assign you to a higher risk category.
RAC: Recovery Audit Contractor - Wikipedia
 
Yupo said:
IMO, those Medicare Advantage plans are rot
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I have one and I'm happy with it (not UHC). Free visits to PCP, free bloodwork, $10 specialist copay, two dental cleanings a year, benefits for eyeglasses, $20 X-rays, drug coverage, free OTC products, etc. I guess if I had a catastrophic medical condition or needed expensive monthly meds, it might be another story. 🤷‍♀️

Yupo said:
On the consumer end there is a geographic boundary for 'coverage', as in only covering claims made in a small region, typically just your section of your state of residence.
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That depends on which plan you pick. The $0 premium plans with no copays do have a more limited geographic service area. The plan I have provides coverage all over the country, and it's only $12/month for 2025.

Yupo said:
Once you sign up, a nurse visits for a friendly checkup, but is really there to come up with information that can and will be used to assign you to a higher risk category.
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They have been trying to get me to schedule one of those for years, but I keep refusing, mostly for the reason you mention. 😁
 
United Healthcare conglomerate is based in the Minneapolis area.

UnitedHealth Group - Wikipedia

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In the 3 December 1994 session the C's make a long list of events, one of which is
"Minneapolis banking scandal relates to mysterious Nordic covenant."

It might pay to keep an eye on developments in this case it seems a lot of money is involved.

Change Healthcare is one of the largest handlers of health, medical data, and patient records, as it processes patient insurance and billing across the U.S. healthcare sector, including thousands of hospitals, pharmacies, and medical practices. As such, Change handles huge amounts of health and medical-related information on around a third of all Americans, the company’s chief executive Andrew Witty told lawmakers in May.

The cyberattack became public on February 21 when Change Healthcare pulled much of its network offline to contain the intruders, causing immediate outages across the U.S. healthcare sector that relied on Change for handling patient insurance and billing.

UHG attributed the cyberattack to ALPHV/BlackCat, a Russian-speaking ransomware and extortion gang, which later took credit for the cyberattack.

The ransomware gang’s leaders later vanished after absconding with a $22 million ransom paid by the health insurance giant, stiffing the group’s contractors who carried out the hacking of Change Healthcare out of their new financial windfall. The contractors took the data they stole from Change Healthcare and formed a new group, which extorted a second ransom from UHG, while publishing a portion of the stolen files online in the process to prove their threat
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UnitedHealth says Change Healthcare hack affects over 100 million, the largest-ever US healthcare data breach | TechCrunch

UnitedHealth, the largest U.S. health insurance provider, blamed a Russia-based ransomware gang for the huge data breach of U.S. medical data.
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Who Is Nino Mangione? GOP Maryland Lawmaker Is Cousin of Luigi Mangione

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Who is Nino Mangione? GOP Maryland lawmaker is cousin of Luigi Mangione

The UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect's family is known in the Baltimore area, and his cousin is in the state's Legislature.
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I was searching around the internet to see if Luigi was on medications, because he seems to be on drugs. And possibly a Democrat? But maybe not.
His face is all over the news outlets and no one recognizes him. And he had accounts on LinkedIn, X, Facebook? And ties with politics too?
 
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His face is all over the news outlets and no one recognizes him. And he had accounts on LinkedIn, X, Facebook? And ties with politics too?
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They say his last know address was Honolulu, Hawaii, kind of like Ryan Wesley Routh had last resided in Honolulu, Hawaii, yet that is just coincidental.

The Hawaii background is expanded upon here:

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Suspect in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO lived in Hawaii

Hawaii News Now has confirmed the 26-year-old lived in a rental unit in Kakaako.
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And for a while, he chose Hawaii, although he didn’t put down roots.

Social media doesn’t make it clear exactly when Mangione came to, or left, Hawaii.

Mangione was an active hiker. Court records reveal that he received a citation last November for hiking within a closed area on the southeast slope of the Nuuanu Pali lookout.

He pleaded no contest to trespassing and paid a $100 fine.

For a time, he lived in a shared penthouse at Century Square, a co-housing and co-working site called Surfbreak with other remote workers. Mangione enjoyed his time there, leaving a positive review on the site.

Those who knew him said he was nice, smart, and there was nothing alarming about his personality.

“It’s unimaginable,” said Surfbreak owner R.J. Martin. “I was roommates with him, friends. We hiked, went to yoga. He did his best to be athletic. It’s unfathomable, knowing the type of person I knew in him.”

Martin said Mangione had a tech job, and was well liked.

“He was a very thoughtful person. He communicated really well. He was friendly, had active relationships with everyone,” Martin said. “He was in some ways even a leader. He helped spearhead a book club that we started.”

Hawaii News Now confirmed that until recently, the 26-year-old lived in a rental unit on the 14th floor of 801 South St. in Kakaako.

A neighbor saw him about three months ago, when he hinted at medical issues, which might have been motivation for murder.

“I just asked him where he’s been for like six months, and he was like on the mainland, like he said just medical stuff,” said neighbor Chris Kwock.

Hawaii News Now also confirmed Mangione was a member of Hub Coworking Hawaii, a coworking space on Queen Street.

Rechung Fujihira founded a coworking site called Box Jelly. Mangione was not a client there, but Fujihira is familiar with the vagabond lifestyle.

“I think what makes them digital nomads is the fact that they are nomadic, right?” he said. “They’ll go from the bounce from one spot to another to another. So they might spend, I don’t know, six months here and then maybe go for like a few months somewhere in Asia.”
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