Upgrade and degradation of a soul. Spirit attachments.

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I want to share this situation.
One of very close relative died more than 2 years ago.
I come to the funeral (I hate going on such an "events" from my early childhood), I come back home after it and went to sleep. I slept for some time, then woke up scared, and can't go to sleep anymore.
It was like "alarm clock, danger, danger!" in my heart. I felt Really Great danger.

Like someone is bothering me and this idea of attachment was on my mind. I start praying, keeping in my mind : "Free will, I dont allow you, you are not allowed to get attach to me", something like that.
I love this relative, but it was like smth different than him in "human life" hard to explain.
I felt fear, like perplexity ( like you are scared, confused and you dont know what to do, how and where to go)
I can't say for sure, but it looks like it wasn't my feelings.

After half an hour of praying, maybe upt to an hour, I dont know, I feel free and safe and went to sleep easily.

Then after half a year passed, my relatives take a new kitty. The first time I saw this cat was at the time when I come home, I sit right next to him, we were alone, and i put my phone next to him, i was listening some lecture. Cat looked at the phone, like he understands and see what I'm watching. I didint think that it may be reincarnation or whatever, i didint have that thoughts in my head.
I looked into his eyes, and I saw a face of my relative for a while, few seconds. It wasn't a replacement of the cats face, like a subtle body, hard to explain. I wasn't scared at all.
Then i've never experienced that again.


Could the attachment procces taking place at that point of time with me and is it possible for a soul being in human body to go to the body of animal, if the 2d have like a soul pool?

As far as I know, in Vedic knowledge such an example is made: if a soul wants to relax, this soul goes to a body of cat on the next life, or if a soul wants to wants to sleep a lot, than goes to a body of bear, who slept for half a year, etc.


Maybe C's have said something about it, I'm not aware of. Feel free to share your thoughts what do you think about it.

 

[seek10]

As far as I know, in Vedic knowledge such an example is made: if a soul wants to relax, this soul goes to a body of cat on the next life, or if a soul wants to wants to sleep a lot, than goes to a body of bear, who slept for half a year, etc.

3D soul going to 2D for the sake of rest looks silly to me.

 

[Search]

I was thinking about if is possible for soul (5d) go to 2d for example. There is a procces of upgrading the level, you move from 1 to 2 then to 3d body, then to 4d. Is there a reverse version possible?
And another thing here that there are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 D's.
But after death of a body, e.g. in 3d, soul goes to 5d, and then comes back. I guess it is my linear thinking, but I'm confused here.

So a soul can "travel" here and there.

Another question that stays in my head, what would be with 4d STS happen in the "end", if they are unable to progress.
But at the same time there is a reflection of STS in 6D, what does that means.

 

[seek10]

I was thinking about if is possible for soul (5d) go to 2d for example.

Animal soul is different from Human soul. Animal soul is part of group soul. Then there is organic portal which still have soul pool but born in human bodies.

There is a procces of upgrading the level, you move from 1 to 2 then to 3d body, then to 4d. Is there a reverse version possible?

I don't know exactly what is meant by "soul smashing". I guess it is going back to 1D. you can search the forum. I heard people saying like bad person becomes animal etc. That is more of a "punishment" rather than rest. I don't know whether it is correct or simply metaphorical. Stepping down ( from 3D to 2D) "for the sake of rest" when one can rest as much one can in 5D world where is there isno time doesn't look reasonable to me.

Could the attachment procces taking place at that point of time with me and is it possible for a soul being in human body to go to the body of animal, if the 2d have like a soul pool?

But then the question of attachments to animals- Can 3D soul that didn't yet went to 5D get attached to animals? There are some references in C's sessions though it is hard to say whether attachment is animal (2D) or human (3D) or other wordily.
1996-07-14

Q: (L) Now, I am curious about the doggie image that was on the aura photo that MM took?
A: In these times, 2nd density creatures will collect more and more attachments.
Q: (L) Are these attachments like other entities?
A: Yes, and others.
Q: (L) When they are collecting these attachments, are they collecting them from us, as in protecting?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are they being used to collect attachments to be detrimental to us?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You mean we are gonna have to do depossessions on our dogs, too? (V) Holy Toledo!
A: That won't work.
Q: (L) Why are our animals picking up attachments?
A: Because of vibrational frequency intensifications.
Q: (L) Is there something we could do? I mean, are we supposed to get rid of pets?
A: We would never suggest something as harsh as this. However, beware: 3rd density STS orientation includes the thought of "dominion" over 2nd density, and this is merely a continuation of the energy buildups
of the approach of the wave... Some of the lessons are interesting indeed. When you assume that capture and imprisonment of those of lesser capacity than you is for "the good," why should not you expect those of
greater capacity than you to assume the same regarding you?!?

2014-08-30

Q: (Treesparrow) What's the cause or causes behind the recent rise in strange and abnormal animal behavior?

(L) Okay, that's a good one.

(Andromeda) Yeah!

A: EM frequency changes affecting DNA and neurochemistry. Also these factors can affect spiritual factors in the animal kingdom. One additional note is advised: Creatures can act as hosts or receptacles for "spirit entities".

Q: (L) So, if there's a demon out there that has it in for somebody, they can use an animal to attack that person. Is that kind of it?

A: Close.

Q: (Pierre) Castaneda talked about that.

(L) He did?

(Pierre) Yeah, he talked about "special animals" that had special spirits.

(Perceval) Is that particularly strong at this time because of the EM frequency changes affecting DNA?

A: Yes.

2016-10-15

Q: (L) That's entirely possible. In fact, I think that's what we see a lot in those stories we put on SOTT. All these different dogs that are attacking people. They get entities… attachments. And something is making them more susceptible.

(Galatea) Or animals in zoos that turn on their caretakers.

A: Yes. We warned of this.

Q: (L) So if you're gonna have a dog, it's best to have one that has instincts that are very strongly pro-human to begin with in order to put a layer of protection between you and the possibility of an entity attack through an animal?

A: Yes

Then the question of what you saw as your deceased relative's face for a fraction of second - It may be really him or some body else projecting like that ? It is better to be cautious.

 

[Search]

I just finished listening second video about book of Enoch this Thread
Laura's commentary on "From Paul to Mark", Religion & Hyperdimensional Realms

I found this comment by Laura in this thread that gives me an answer and plenty of food for thoughts to understand about how it goes with STS and STO and where they goes. It is pretty logical for me, here is the post :

Adobe, just remember this: The All blinks neither at the darkness nor the light. Approximately half of creation is wending its way toward the STS culmination while the other half is heading toward the STO culmination. From what we understand, the STS culmination is to be reduced to primal matter and start the whole cycle over again, while the STO culmination is to start the whole ensouling matter process again. It's just what is.

I mean, if you were God and infinity was what you were/faced/contemplated, what else would you do for entertainment?

 

[Search]

Animal soul is different from Human soul. Animal soul is part of group soul. Then there is organic portal which still have soul pool but born in human bodies.

It is another question that I have in mind.
Is it sort of the same type of pool for OP and animal's pool. Did they interact in some way with each other.
The another question appears that if OP is sort of "animals in human flash" what are the connection between 2d friends and OP?
Correct me if I wrong.

 

[seek10]

It is another question that I have in mind.
Is it sort of the same type of pool for OP and animal's pool. Did they interact in some way with each other.
The another question appears that if OP is sort of "animals in human flash" what are the connection between 2d friends and OP?
Correct me if I wrong.

I don't know too much about portal dynamics. But there are few threads when I search "organic portal" in title. Some threads may be of interest to you. You can use search button on the top right.

Search results for query: organic portal

cassiopaea.org

There is dedicated thread on organic portal here

Organic Portals: Human variation

Among the most difficult concepts the C's have presented to us over the years is that of Organic Portals. We've received tons of hate mail about this from fundie types - both mainstream religion and New Age - protesting the very idea of human type beings that may not have the potential of an...

cassiopaea.org

 

[Alejo]

Hi search,

Mental blocking, such as the one you describe works initially I think, praying also helps. But ultimately, in my opinion, it is a matter of energy vibration, and frequency match between an entity and ourselves. In some cases it's something we have in ourselves that attracts an entity, and the best way to avoid an attachment is to work on these traits, by changing habits, getting to know ourselves and practice discipline.

I also think that the attachment of a human soul to a 2D body for the purposes of rest seems very simplistic, when there's also information that points to a lot more possibilities for resting once a human soul leaves physical existence. But, I suppose it isn't entirely impossible, but I would also factor in imagination in the case of what you perceived in the cat.

Also, attachments, could be a number of things, in some instances it isn't an entity who had a body previously, in some cases it could be an energy, or a disembodied entity, that term also means a quite a lot of things.

 

[BlueKiwi]

Hi @Search thanks for sharing this with us.

I have also experienced post death things as well. A few moments after my Father died, I felt his presence move around the room we were in and he visited each of us individually. When he came to me, It felt like a really warm hug, but the warmth was not of this world. It seemed like it went though me and into my soul. It lasted for about a week after. My wife also noticed this warmth / heat radiating from me.

It was like "alarm clock, danger, danger!" in my heart. I felt Really Great danger.

Are you sure you were not being warned by this relative of something they thought you should be aware of, instead of fear of your relatives presence ?

After half an hour of praying, maybe upt to an hour, I dont know, I feel free and safe and went to sleep easily.

Do you think they may have given up trying to communicate with you ? Were you reacting out of fear ? I only say this because it sounds like you had a close relationship with this person :

One of very close relative died more than 2 years ago.

I looked into his eyes, and I saw a face of my relative for a while, few seconds. It wasn't a replacement of the cats face, like a subtle body, hard to explain. I wasn't scared at all.

Maybe another attempt to communicate with you ?

Could the attachment procces taking place at that point of time with me and is it possible for a soul being in human body to go to the body of animal, if the 2d have like a soul pool?

Are you really sure there is an entity trying to attach to you ? Or communicate with you. I would think an entity trying to attach would try to be as stealthy as possible, and take great care to not get your attention.

As for a 3D soul incarnating into a 2D body - this seems unusual, since there would be no point, as the soul has grown beyond the need of the lessons of 2D existence I would think ?

 

[Wandering Star]

Animal soul is different from Human soul. Animal soul is part of group soul. Then there is organic portal which still have soul pool but born in human bodies.

I don't know exactly what is meant by "soul smashing". I guess it is going back to 1D. you can search the forum. I heard people saying like bad person becomes animal etc. That is more of a "punishment" rather than rest. I don't know whether it is correct or simply metaphorical. Stepping down ( from 3D to 2D) "for the sake of rest" when one can rest as much one can in 5D world where is there isno time doesn't look reasonable to me.


But then the question of attachments to animals- Can 3D soul that didn't yet went to 5D get attached to animals? There are some references in C's sessions though it is hard to say whether attachment is animal (2D) or human (3D) or other wordily.
1996-07-14

2014-08-30

2016-10-15

Then the question of what you saw as your deceased relative's face for a fraction of second - It may be really him or some body else projecting like that ? It is better to be cautious.

Many years ago, I was looking for answers and something happened to me with a dog.

I was riding my motorcycle through a residential area and I was going slowly, maybe 30 km/h. There was a large dog standing between two cars and when I passed out of the corner of my eye I saw the dog go at full speed towards me.

I managed to accelerate the motorcycle and I saw in the rearview mirror how the dog tried to ram the motorcycle. I freed him by centimeters and I saw how the dog slipped on the asphalt and collided with a parked car, the result of the speed that he was carrying against me.

The weird or even weirder thing is that the dog stood as if stunned, he didn't chase me and he didn't do anything else.

It may be anecdotal, but I would bet that something made the dog do that, since cars and motorcycles pass by continuously on that road.

Just something I remembered when reading you.

 

[seek10]

Many years ago, I was looking for answers and something happened to me with a dog.

I was riding my motorcycle through a residential area and I was going slowly, maybe 30 km/h. There was a large dog standing between two cars and when I passed out of the corner of my eye I saw the dog go at full speed towards me.

I managed to accelerate the motorcycle and I saw in the rearview mirror how the dog tried to ram the motorcycle. I freed him by centimeters and I saw how the dog slipped on the asphalt and collided with a parked car, the result of the speed that he was carrying against me.

The weird or even weirder thing is that the dog stood as if stunned, he didn't chase me and he didn't do anything else.

I had similar experience once but I know it is natural reaction to dog becoming mother at that time. I went to a my friends house ( early 80's) whom I visit often and suddenly a dog chased me out and even gave a good scratch that needs minor medical attention. Later, I was told that that stray dog took shelter on the back of their house and gave birth and I happen to visit him at that time. Well, that phobia lasted few decades. One can't avoid stray dogs on the Indian streets, but the rule of thumb that seems to work is - Don't run away from them and keep safe distance. more you accelerate , more they chase. I think it depends on the situation.

 

[Wandering Star]

I had similar experience once but I know it is natural reaction to dog becoming mother at that time. I went to a my friends house ( early 80's) whom I visit often and suddenly a dog chased me out and even gave a good scratch that needs minor medical attention. Later, I was told that that stray dog took shelter on the back of their house and gave birth and I happen to visit him at that time. Well, that phobia lasted few decades. One can't avoid stray dogs on the Indian streets, but the rule of thumb that seems to work is - Don't run away from them and keep safe distance. more you accelerate , more they chase. I think it depends on the situation.

Yes, that's why it was very strange that the dog, after failing to reach me, stayed still and didn't chase me.

When I watched him in the rearview mirror as I drove away on my motorcycle, the dog gave the impression of confusion, as if he didn't know what he was doing there.

 

[Search]

I don't know exactly what is meant by "soul smashing". I guess it is going back to 1D. you can search the forum. I heard people saying like bad person becomes animal etc. That is more of a "punishment" rather than rest. I don't know whether it is correct or simply metaphorical. Stepping down ( from 3D to 2D) "for the sake of rest" when one can rest as much one can in 5D world where is there isno time doesn't look reasonable to me.

As far as I understand what was meant there by "rest in animal body" was said in sarcastic manner.

If you take a look at animal kingdom, we actually kill and eat a lot of them.
But from the other perspective look at our pats, e.g. cats, we are having, they dont need to chase for food, they don't have to bother where to sleep, their bodies are so relaxed that they can sleep in any position, even with a leg on their head. )
But there are individuals who can make harm to pats for nothing. So It is also depends.
There are different animals, different species, and if it is possible to go to 2d, and it is actually punishment, so it is like in prison, depends on what you have done that you will receive.

P.S. I want to reply yesterday, was too tired and went yo sleep, and today have a plenty of work today.

 

[Search]

Do you think they may have given up trying to communicate with you ? Were you reacting out of fear ? I only say this because it sounds like you had a close relationship with this person :

I don't know, I can't say that I have really close relationship. But this guy was of the good guys, OSIT. It was the father of my brother's wife. And It is was a kind of example of "healthy" relationship novadays that this man had with her wife, during 40-50 year or so of spending lifetime together.

 

[Search]

Then the question of what you saw as your deceased relative's face for a fraction of second - It may be really him or some body else projecting like that ? It is better to be cautious.

I don't know why, i got this thoughts on my mind, that I should "stay away" from this kitty, like not to take him up to my hand, like the usual stuff we do with kitties, but there was no logical reason in my mind about it. Only that situation that I've shared here, maybe it does influence me.
At the same time, I can't say he may make harm towards me. I'm trying to share what is going on in my head.

Thank you guys for helping me here.