US, California: Whitney Houston Dies at 48

That video was incredible, SAO, which makes me even sadder to see how the industry chews people up and spits them out. It must also be quite a strange thing for the individual who goes through this transformation by the industry - becoming lost to themselves and for the most part, unable to find their way back.
 
truth seeker said:
That video was incredible, SAO, which makes me even sadder to see how the industry chews people up and spits them out. It must also be quite a strange thing for the individual who goes through this transformation by the industry - becoming lost to themselves and for the most part, unable to find their way back.

I completely agree. :jawdrop: I would probably listen to Lady Gaga if she still sang like that...

Perceval said:
You also only loved her voice because of the way that she and her voice were promoted and spread around the world. How many other millions of people have equally great voices or better voices and you never hear them? She 'let it go' because she, too, was a victim of the mindless mass media propaganda machine and the dire state of Western and global society that treats people as objects and money making machines for the elite.

That's a rather negative view of the situation, but is it wrong?

No it's not wrong. It's sad.. but it's realistic and objective. Neema and I had a conversation about this very thing and he asked me about how many Palestinan/Iragi/Afghani/African and many other signers there are with beautiful voices just like or even better than Whitney Houston and no one ever hears them because they are never given an opportunity. But what's sad is that even if they are given an opportunity, most of them would probably end up selling out like Lady Gaga or get lost in the showbiz and chewed up and spit back out like Whitney or Michael Jackson... That's the essence of an STS world I guess, and a world run by psychopaths. :(
 
anart said:
Deedlet said:
. But there are also people like me who loved Whitney

How can you love a person who you truly know nothing about? All you know about her is her public persona which is wholly manufactured. To know is to love and you don't know the first thing about this woman, other than the fact that you 'like' her voice.

I really think it's important to learn to separate truth from illusion. You 'loved' the illusion of Whitney Houston, that's all.

Good point, and even more to the point, we love our illusions because we love the feelings they evoke. In this regard, we're all like Whitney Houston--battling to overcome the lure of drugs--our drug of choice being dopamine.

Doesn't this really sum up our entire existential predicament: data hits our senses, our brain interprets it as programmed, feelings are spliced in according to associations--all preventing us from directly and genuinely experiencing "the holiness of true existence" ?
 
Endymion said:
We 'love' certain types of music and voices because they have a 'match' with our machine - our liking is a purely mechanical phenomenon that is exploited by the PTB and the music industry (if there's a difference) . . . bread and circuses for the masses.
To this, my wholehearted affirmation. Pop music is the result of attempting to match with the highest percentage of machines, to the detriment of the individual machine who does not receive complete audio gratification.

When I hear a song I like, I wonder: is 4D STS trying to get at me this way? Do I succumb? But the song...is so nice! Just as the best disinfo is truth laced with lies...
 
Muxel said:
When I hear a song I like, I wonder: is 4D STS trying to get at me this way? Do I succumb? But the song...is so nice! Just as the best disinfo is truth laced with lies...

Yup!

I once did a karaoke rendition of "Making Believe" and in between each line I was adding commentary about how this is a song designed to make people food for psychopaths... and one of the people in the room broke down in tears because they couldn't bear the fact that such a beautiful song had such unhealthy implications. I was "ruining the illusion."

Here's the song in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpyai-X3BgA
 
Laura said:
I once did a karaoke rendition of "Making Believe" and in between each line I was adding commentary about how this is a song designed to make people food for psychopaths... and one of the people in the room broke down in tears because they couldn't bear the fact that such a beautiful song had such unhealthy implications. I was "ruining the illusion."

Here's the song in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpyai-X3BgA

I don't think it's beautiful, it's actually pathetic, very sad and indeed very unhealthy. Like, "you dumped me for someone else (or are cheating on me while still with me) but I'm gonna wishfully thinking that you still love me (as if you actually did in the first place)"… Mmm, food for psychopaths, yes.
Red flags: "I'll never own you", "you'll never be mine", etc.
She should read WWLP!
 
Yeah I think many of the "stars" like the rest of us at some level know they are giving in to urges for something not overly good and then another part of them is left to pick up the pieces on the battlefield and it's sometimes just too hard on the soul with that not good feeling inside.

My signature comes from a song many think is about dealing with drugs (I used it for Gulf oil spill and return of the Goddess reasons) but it was actually written before any fame and drug abuse. It was in response to being dumped by their first record producers who were originally being great to them.

I'm tired
I'm thirsty
I'm wild-eyed
In my misery

Timeless in your finery
It's a high price
For your luxury

Chorus:
Sorcerer
Who is the master
A man and woman on a star stream
In the middle of a snow dream
Sorcerer
Show me the high life
Come over
Let me put you on ice

All around black ink darkness
And who found lady from the mountains
All around black ink darkness
And who found lady from the mountains
Lady from the mountains
 
There was at one time a person with a ( http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/whitney_houstons_childhood_fri.html ), tremendous, gift, a talent and a dream, at a very early age. Some one saw the rising star that was from the recording business, and made quick to sign her to a world record contract, and the rest is histroy.

But the recording business which as well has it's share of predator's, and psychopath's that feed of other people's talent, to the point of exploitation for gain at any price.

When a person with this much talent, generates the kind of money, public acclaim, (given amount of record's she solid and the public reaction) there is always going to be an attraction of a seedy type of behavior. This is unfortunately is the possible by product of this kind of success, inherently it also draws to it an entourage of gold diggers, drug peddlers, predatory, and psychopathic element's, that speak in fork toques for the smell fast money.

This crowd also draws the side show of haberdashery of stimulants which the under world and subculture, of the record industry, from the black market as well as your friendly pharmaceutical an alternative. A by product that has always been associated with the music, and movie industry.

One has to be very cautious to balance the fame and fortune, and whom they let in there inter circle of friends and family alike. Know doubt the intentions of people related to both business and personal life, surely took its toll.

Her talent, and personal life began to really take a turn for the worst when she hooked up with psychotic and bipolar behavior of Bobby Brown, (a man sufferring from his own metal issues and addictions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Brown#Personal_life). So the old saying, carfull the company you keep.

Her health, and career degenerate as witnessed with fans, and critic's, close family friend's and industry members a like. I believe this was at one time was a good person, and i also think that when she fell into all this fame, fortune, and all that comes with it, that subconsciously she knew it went against her values she was taught, so comes the drug activity as means to cope with that realization of choice, freewill, came fame, enslavement to record industry in which with negative effects of the stimulants produces a gate way of losing touch with reality, of ones feeling's.

This is not attempt to garner pity as the C's have pointed out, pity those whom pity. But is her passing represents, perhaps what one might think to evaluate there choice of the responsibility of freewill, and what the commitment is that comes with making that rather wrong, or right choice, and ignoring the maintenance that must be part of the choice that one makes to maintain it's integrity, for success as to failure of that free will.

I don't believe there is any bashing going on here, but the Whitney jokes soon appeared on the net, which always some what distastefully, no matter whom it is or what it represents. SAO's, observation's of the whole parade of activity does represent a distraction on globale scale. But to whom is to really be blamed for the condition's of world hunger, famine, and poverty, the avalanche of drug flowing across the border's that is being witnessed with a incredible climb through the statics, and body counts. An increase over the last 10 year's now numbering in the billions. A slave market, for cheap labor, and profit's for the money, for power hungry coperations, politicians, that again appear to be all by design for profit. But are we all not guilty of not having done something long ago, as to now, as it only has become issue as it now strikes closer to home, and as it begins escalating at everyones heals, from a toll be taken from nuclear, GMO, contamination, economic genocide against family farmer's across planet as means by possible covert actions of the pharmaceutical's and politician's to keep there pocket's lined filthy lukra, and controls peoples body's and mind in state of decay. Making masse's easily more controlable.

We as civilization now appear, headed on the brink of a globally catastrophe on so many level's. So this passing of a star that has fallen, and is now extinguished, is representative of humanity as whole, to grasp the big picture of soon to be seen future event's, of the destruction of humanity. Thanks to the psychotic elite, a sedated world population, and the media horrors of deception, told what say, and lie for the illusion of the green back, for main stream TV, the no information new's outlet's now answering to the orders corpaerate cabala of evil.

One thing i will keep in mind is that this women, was at one time some one's beloved daughter, some ones friend, sister, aunt, cousin, a mother ( perhaps the world would say not a very good role model given her condition). And at one time a human being, whom had dreams, and aspiration's, but lost her way, her gift, and over period of time scumming to the illusion of being in control. Gone like some many fallen stars before her, a casualty of the movie, and record industry. Some made the right choice's, others were not so fortunate.

"Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers"
Shooting Star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kEDa6bXnA8

Just a thought.
 
c.a. said:
There was at one time a person with a, tremendous, gift, a talent and a dream, at a very early age.

That sentence applies to billions of people.

ca said:
One thing i will keep in mind is that this women, was at one time some one's beloved daughter, some ones friend, sister, aunt, cousin, a mother ( perhaps the world would say not a very good role model given her condition). And at one time a human being, whom had dreams, and aspiration's, but lost her way, her gift, and over period of time scumming to the illusion of being in control.

The above can be said about every female person on the planet. Approximately 160,000 other people died on the day Whitney Houston died and the only reason the whole world knew about her death (and you wrote this post) is because the media machine created and sold her to you, and to the world. That's all.
 
anart said:
c.a. said:
There was at one time a person with a, tremendous, gift, a talent and a dream, at a very early age.

That sentence applies to billions of people.

Yes i understand what you mean, with the media continuing to dramatise such trivia event's on issues like this, then real problem's facing humanity. Why are they not questioning the real problems? The other people that have died a similar fate, on a globale scale. And how, and why is this happening.

They did not sell me. i don't listen to her music, i just saw one lost soul, that did not make it, and yes, there are many, many, more like her that each day are losing there life's that go uncounted for by the press. Because it can't be sensationalised, as her passing was. It does not sell the distraction, and promote the illusion.

And yes, once again the media, does use it as way to sell it's distroted idea's of the illusion as major distraction, then to reality.

That's why we won't see information like this on primetime TV.

Poor America - P a n o r a m a [B B C] - Broadcast Date: 13th February 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=suJCvkazrTc#!

The Game of Poverty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o60UgiAqj10

Sun Sea & Satan FULL DOCUMENTARY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lq6lJsBz9UY

CIA Mind Control Operation MK-ULTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao&feature=player_embedded#!


Thanks for your feed back, i do understand what you pertaining too, and what it really means.
 
Not a surprising end to what caused Whitney's death.

https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243310-Whitney-Houston-drowned-with-cocaine-in-system
 
Deedlet said:
Not a surprising end to what caused Whitney's death.

https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243310-Whitney-Houston-drowned-with-cocaine-in-system

She shoulda been on the Paleo diet.
 
Sadly, the wrong diet is the cause (direct or undirect) of so many deaths, probably most deaths. That means that if people would live on the paleodiet, the life expectancy average would be more than 100 years old.
 
Deedlet said:
Not a surprising end to what caused Whitney's death.
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243310-Whitney-Houston-drowned-with-cocaine-in-system

Not that it matters since the media machine spits out what it's told to, but this part of the article doesn't make sense..."Houston died of accidental drowning due to the effects of cocaine use and heart disease" How do you 'accidentally' drown in a bathtub - unless you had a heart attack, or were somehow heavily intoxicated and you fell asleep and then drowned.
 
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