US 'could be going bankrupt'

[Al Today]

I feel for those who live in the city. It's not gonna be pretty. Some how, through trials & tribulations, I was directed by an unseen power (guardian angel for lack of terms?) into living in the country. Years ago I read that it is good to live over two days walk from the cities, for most give up after two days walk.
Preparation is the key. Do you have a water supply, bleach tablets? Do you have a self perpetuating garden to supply you year to year? Do you know how to make candles and fire? Do you have deer, turkey, and yes even squirrels or whatever for protein? Do you know how to catch the food? Do you know how to prepare the meat? Do you have a fireplace or woodburner for heat? Do you have the tools and knowledge to do this? This is your choice to sit back and watch television or prepare.
Next is hardest. Guns & Ammo. Makes me sad, but if you're standing in the middle of the road and an eighteen wheeler semi truck is barreling down atcha, are ya gonna stand there or protect yourself and move to the side of the road?
But... Perhaps the network can gather because there is more hope for survival with a group than in being alone. We will see what happens.

 

[SilverJeep]

I feel for those who live in the city. It's not gonna be pretty. Some how, through trials & tribulations, I was directed by an unseen power (guardian angel for lack of terms?) into living in the country. Years ago I read that it is good to live over two days walk from the cities, for most give up after two days walk.
Preparation is the key. Do you have a water supply, bleach tablets? Do you have a self perpetuating garden to supply you year to year? Do you know how to make candles and fire? Do you have deer, turkey, and yes even squirrels or whatever for protein? Do you know how to catch the food? Do you know how to prepare the meat? Do you have a fireplace or woodburner for heat? Do you have the tools and knowledge to do this? This is your choice to sit back and watch television or prepare.
Next is hardest. Guns & Ammo. Makes me sad, but if you're standing in the middle of the road and an eighteen wheeler semi truck is barreling down atcha, are ya gonna stand there or protect yourself and move to the side of the road?
But... Perhaps the network can gather because there is more hope for survival with a group than in being alone. We will see what happens.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, many here will probably inundate you with posts questioning your 3D STS obsession with survival.

 

[curious_richard]

I agree with you. Unfortunately, many here will probably inundate you with posts questioning your 3D STS obsession with survival.

It seems to me that your comment is less about helping others and more about giving your ego a chance to lash out at perceived injustice. (Or I could be wrong. That's just how your words come across to me.) But so long as at least one person feels better, no worries. :)

 

[shijing]

I agree with you. Unfortunately, many here will probably inundate you with posts questioning your 3D STS obsession with survival.

It seems to me that your comment is less about helping others and more about giving your ego a chance to lash out at perceived injustice. (Or I could be wrong. That's just how your words come across to me.)

This is how it came across to me too.

This is really something that I think a lot of us have considered, and it can sometimes be difficult to sort out the difference between wanting to apply knowledge to enable us to serve others as opposed to saving our own skin. It's something that I actually had to think through relatively recently when I was trying to decide what direction to follow regarding my employment.

In the end, though, it really does come down to STS vs STO, the idea being that if you really want to serve others, the universe can work in non-linear ways to make sure that you get a chance to do so. I think you can be reasonably prepared in ways that will allow you to prevent foreseeable accidents, mishaps, even disasters -- but when you start focusing so much energy on staying alive that you lose sight of being part of a larger community, then it can quickly deteriorate into STS, which is driven by fear, among other things. We really never know exactly what our life lesson plan entails -- part of it could be an early death for all we know. But it does seem like we may get to stay in school longer if we are focused on helping others.

 

[truth seeker]

I think you can be reasonably prepared in ways that will allow you to prevent foreseeable accidents, mishaps, even disasters -- but when you start focusing so much energy on staying alive that you lose sight of being part of a larger community, then it can quickly deteriorate into STS, which is driven by fear, among other things.

Agree. I'll just add to this that being driven by fear can also bring about the very situation we seek to avoid. Life is like this. How often have we seen someone or ourself try to out run or avoid a situation only to find ourselves in the same place? One example of this can be when we have relationships with the same types of people. Wherever you go, there you are.

When we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear, we cannot think straight. Not being able to think straight prevents us from clearly seeing opportunities because we are too caught up in what we "think" is happening. We want nothing more at that time than for things to be other than what we think they are. When in this state, we cannot see objectively and our choices are limited.

As others have said, there is nothing wrong with preparation, unfortunately that still does not give anyone a guarantee that they will outlive someone else. It just gives them better chances. To think otherwise is in my opinion wishful thinking.

Perhaps a good question to ask ourselves is what each of us are doing in order to try and ensure that as many as possible are helped?

 

[Al Today]

Well, I think there are many who do not think, prepare. Like I said, if the truck is coming at you, you see it, you gonna stand there get hit? Or move to the side and survive. Yep, I'm 3D STS with instinct for survival. Do you wanna die? Are you that courageous or foolhardy, or lying to yourself? I do not have full control over my emotions as of yet, they do surface, and in my previous years of giving sermons (talks) in the monotheistic persuasion, I care for others and speaking out about potential sticks with me as I do think some should have the opportunity to DO something. Provide opportunity to visualize a potential future, Yep, gloom & doom, but what else is this thread and others about?

 

[Ca.]

Perhaps the a proper prespctive and positive STO approach would be, when one buys a can of food for yourself, too buy three more, to share with others whom will be without.

 

[Al Today]

Yes c.a., I would offer what I have. DEFINATELY. This is my nature, to share.

About making my ego feel good. Perhaps... But deep within I cannot stand by and say nothing. This is one thing that has perplexed me. I have read much about not interfering with free will, but I can't understand that STO can stand by and DO nothing. Especially if someone would want help, but does not know how to ask. I'm probably wrong, but being in this life if I can help one(1) person live, prosper, grow, and advert disaster I must, I will. Am I really supposed to sit back and watch others experience "bad" situations when if they had ONLY HAD BEEN PROVIDED an OPPORTUNITY to think of something, consider a situation they may not have heard or not thought of during the course of their day? This BBM is in dire straights, people suffer and I cry. I appreciate what I have and "feel" extremely sad that others are in misery. Yep, my chain was yanked, I understand what you've said. I appreciate the mirror. Things just bubble up and they get released before I can control.

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more: My comments are not fear driven. To me they are common sense to be self sufficient, even if there was no gloom & doom. For the nature of STS mankind being as it is. This is how/why I am to share what I can, and protect what I can. Survival, yes.

 

[truth seeker]

Well, I think there are many who do not think, prepare.

Absolutely!

Like I said, if the truck is coming at you, you see it, you gonna stand there get hit? Or move to the side and survive.

Isn't that what we're trying to do here?

Yep, I'm 3D STS with instinct for survival. Do you wanna die? Are you that courageous or foolhardy, or lying to yourself?

I don't think most people want to die. While I wouldn't presume to answer that question for anyone else, I'll just say that I would prefer to die sooner or later. Either way though it's going to happen.

I do not have full control over my emotions as of yet, they do surface, and in my previous years of giving sermons (talks) in the monotheistic persuasion, I care for others and speaking out about potential sticks with me as I do think some should have the opportunity to DO something. Provide opportunity to visualize a potential future, Yep, gloom & doom, but what else is this thread and others about?

While there is doom and gloom, there is also the many good things that can happen in these situations. This is what you and others here are attempting to do.

About making my ego feel good. Perhaps... But deep within I cannot stand by and say nothing. This is one thing that has perplexed me. I have read much about not interfering with free will, but I can't understand that STO can stand by and DO nothing. Especially if someone would want help, but does not know how to ask. I'm probably wrong, but being in this life if I can help one(1) person live, prosper, grow, and advert disaster I must, I will. Am I really supposed to sit back and watch others experience "bad" situations when if they had ONLY HAD BEEN PROVIDED an OPPORTUNITY to think of something, consider a situation they may not have heard or not thought of during the course of their day? This BBM is in dire straights, people suffer and I cry. I appreciate what I have and "feel" extremely sad that others are in misery. Yep, my chain was yanked, I understand what you've said. I appreciate the mirror. Things just bubble up and they get released before I can control.

I think that when the time comes, some who haven't asked for whatever reason will find a way to. There will also be those who may not want help. Perhaps I'm off, but I think that it's these people who are referred to when we're talking about not abridging free will in this context. Help can come in many ways. For some, it may be food, for others information/knowledge and yet for others both. This can be a great place for discernment. To know when someone is asking in the various forms it takes.

Asking is not always spoken directly. Sometimes it is unspoken. Sometimes the person is saying one thing, but means another. It is not that we're advocating not doing anything, but rather when you have tried and see that someone does not want your help, it is best for both that we don't continue to try and give something that is unwanted. It is at that point that the action becomes STS because we are attempting to control the actions of another by determining their needs. Hope that clarifies a bit. If not, let me know. :)

 

[Al Today]

Asking is not always spoken directly. Sometimes it is unspoken. Sometimes the person is saying one thing, but means another. It is not that we're advocating not doing anything, but rather when you have tried and see that someone does not want your help, it is best for both that we don't continue to try and give something that is unwanted. It is at that point that the action becomes STS because we are attempting to control the actions of another by determining their needs. Hope that clarifies a bit. If not, let me know. :)

Yes, I understand. I have no desire to save someone from themselves, so to say. The point I see within myself is that I do not say the same things daily. Seems that every now & then I give in to being compelled to speak out for some reason. How many come here and get on a soapbox to preach? Walk into the wrong bar. I do not desire to do this. This is not my intent. I will not preach. Seems that every once in a while I spout off where someone seeking may have an opportunity to think. Like the old saying: them who can hear, lend an ear. If not, be what you want to be. It's their choice.

edit: And besides, I can be wrong. Gawd knows I've been wrong before.