US Government shutdown

[timeless roamer]

Hey everyone. After reading an article on Sott.net about the shutdown, and the comments on it by the poster of the article, I was left wondering on this. Does this shutdown mean anything in the long run. Or is it just an tactic of the PTB to make us believe we have some control of our government. Sorry if this topic really is somewhat vague and most likely can be answered by reading more, but I can't seem to find the right starting point to find the perspective that the poster of the article had. I would really appreciate some pointers so I can work on being able to see the true dynamics of this shutdown. Thank you for your time everyone!

 

[Vulcan59]

Well this shutdown is not the first time it seems. Here is another article by NPR entitled - 8 Things To Know About A Government Shutdown. :)

 

[timeless roamer]

Well this shutdown is not the first time it seems. Here is another article by NPR entitled - 8 Things To Know About A Government Shutdown. :)

Thanks dude!
:D

 

[loreta]

Thanks for this article, I was wondering also how terrible this situation can be for Americans.

(I hear today at the radio that during the last shutdown Bill was alone in the "palace" because the employees were absent, not working. That's when the lady Monica Lewinsky appears. ;) And the rest of the story is about intimacy. )

 

[Rich]

An interesting consequence: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57605404-38/shutdown-will-largely-shutter-nasa-other-science-projects/

"NASA will shut down almost entirely," President Obama said Monday in a statement, meaning unpaid time off for the majority of the agency's 18,000 employees. However, he said that Mission Control employees in Houston would remain on the job to support astronauts orbiting the Earth in the space station.

Other agencies conducting research programs expected to be affected include the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation, which will allow work to continue on projects supported by grants but won't be making any new payments.

Most of the Environmental Protection Agency's 17,000 employees will also be staying home, EPA chief Gina McCarthy said last week, according to The Hill. However, a few EPA officials would remain on the job "to keep the lights on and to respond in the event of a significant emergency," she said.

More than two-thirds of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will be furloughed, according to a contingency staffing plan posted to the Department of Health and Human Services' Web site. The shutdown means no funding to investigate outbreaks or to support the agency's annual flu vaccination program.

The National Weather Service, meanwhile, will continue monitoring atmospheric conditions and issuing forecasts. Similarly, employees of the National Hurricane Center and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration will stay on the job. The US Geological Survey will temporarily cease operations.

However, AsteroidWatch, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory's effort to detect and track asteroids and comets that could pose a threat to Earth, said it will stop tweeting about potential threats. "In the event of government shutdown, we will not be posting or responding from this account. We sincerely hope to resume tweets soon," the office said in a tweet Monday.

OK, they're making a joke out of the non tweeting but interesting way to add to excuses for not reporting threatening cosmic activity

 

[mkrnhr]

An interesting consequence: _http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57605404-38/shutdown-will-largely-shutter-nasa-other-science-projects/

I just received an email in one of the mail lists I subscribed to. In that text one can read:

Since NASA civil servants have been strictly and sternly warned against even volunteering any time, the program officers will not be able to respond to email or voicemail messages if the government is shutdown.

Why "strictly and sternly warned against even volunteering" ?

 

[1984]

This whole 'shutdown' stinks - every other time, they've waited *just* up to the last minute and it passes because it's all just a bunch of BS anyway.

I agree, Pob - with all these notices going to folks' emails from various govt agencies, the 'shutdown' makes me wonder if it's a way to say, "well, we couldn't very well monitor the skies because NASA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, AsteroidWatch, et al were shut down so we couldn't very well warn you of the incoming stuff". :)

 

[Rich]

This whole 'shutdown' stinks - every other time, they've waited *just* up to the last minute and it passes because it's all just a bunch of BS anyway.

I agree, Pob - with all these notices going to folks' emails from various govt agencies, the 'shutdown' makes me wonder if it's a way to say, "well, we couldn't very well monitor the skies because NASA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, AsteroidWatch, et al were shut down so we couldn't very well warn you of the incoming stuff". :)

Yeah. Could be. Predictably they are not going to stop any Gov activity that involves monitoring People:

Indeed, while a government shutdown will inevitably impact everything from Head Start, and key welfare services to national museums and IRS audits, the one area not impacted in the least will be the police/surveillance state and its various militarized agencies, spying programs and personnel. Incredibly, although more than 800,000 government workers could find themselves without paychecks or with reduced (or for members of the military, delayed) paychecks, President Obama and Congress will still get paid on time.

http://www.sott.net/article/266968-From-NSA-spying-and-VIPR-sweeps-to-domestic-drones-A-round-up-of-the-police-state-programs-NOT-affected-by-a-Government-shutdown

We know where their priorities lie and what they consider to be the biggest threat :(

 

[SeekinTruth]

This whole 'shutdown' stinks - every other time, they've waited *just* up to the last minute and it passes because it's all just a bunch of BS anyway.

I agree, Pob - with all these notices going to folks' emails from various govt agencies, the 'shutdown' makes me wonder if it's a way to say, "well, we couldn't very well monitor the skies because NASA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, AsteroidWatch, et al were shut down so we couldn't very well warn you of the incoming stuff". :)

Yeah. Could be. Predictably they are not going to stop any Gov activity that involves monitoring People:

Indeed, while a government shutdown will inevitably impact everything from Head Start, and key welfare services to national museums and IRS audits, the one area not impacted in the least will be the police/surveillance state and its various militarized agencies, spying programs and personnel. Incredibly, although more than 800,000 government workers could find themselves without paychecks or with reduced (or for members of the military, delayed) paychecks, President Obama and Congress will still get paid on time.

http://www.sott.net/article/266968-From-NSA-spying-and-VIPR-sweeps-to-domestic-drones-A-round-up-of-the-police-state-programs-NOT-affected-by-a-Government-shutdown

We know where their priorities lie and what they consider to be the biggest threat :(

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

 

[realitybugll]

the federal government shut down - big shock - lots of new coverage. the good aspect is it might spur some individuals to prepare for future uncertainty.

 

[Mark7]

A lot of gov websites have a message up saying that the site is down due to lapse of gov funding. They just changed their homepage, if the site was really down, one would get some sort of server error, so all these sites would be working fine, except that they took the EXTRA step to put up a new homepage saying the site is down.

The nasa.gov site redirects to: _http://notice.usa.gov/ for instance.

:P

 

[Kenny McCormick]

They just changed their homepage, if the site was really down, one would get some sort of server error, so all these sites would be working fine, except that they took the EXTRA step to put up a new homepage saying the site is down.

So it's just the show. The pages could stay unchanged for months...

 

[Kenny McCormick]

Well this shutdown is not the first time it seems. Here is another article by NPR entitled - 8 Things To Know About A Government Shutdown. :)

Funny discussion under the article:

"- The top 1% pay 39% of each and every Federal Income tax Dollar.
The bottom 50% manage to pay only 2.3%

- How would the top 1% make any money at all without the bottom 99%?

- Soooooo, Life ain't fair? How would the bottom 99% make any money without the top 1%? Picking up cans along the road?"

No one noticed, the "1%" is obsolete, and there are always enough poor psychopaths just waiting for their turn, and more - they believe they NEED the "1%". Like slaves NEED their master.
No one noticed that poor manage to pay only 2,3%, because they are put in such a misery by those rich - just for their amusement...

Land of the slaves...

 

[zim]

This whole 'shutdown' stinks - every other time, they've waited *just* up to the last minute and it passes because it's all just a bunch of BS anyway.

I agree, Pob - with all these notices going to folks' emails from various govt agencies, the 'shutdown' makes me wonder if it's a way to say, "well, we couldn't very well monitor the skies because NASA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, AsteroidWatch, et al were shut down so we couldn't very well warn you of the incoming stuff". :)

I was thinking in this scenario as well!!! , so I suppose wait and see is the next step.

 

[stellar]

Could all this have something to do with the federal reserve charter which expires xmas eve 2013 and that it is not renewable???