Using social media

[Keyhole]

There was a recent story (on Sott?) about China using a social code to ID good behaviors, giving people some sort of credit rating for citizenship value. I do have concerns for Facebook and similar site postings to be used against us one day.

Are you talking about this and this?

 

[Palinurus]

There's also this one: China's soon-to-be mandatory Social Network Game

 

[luc]

As part of 2016, I'm going to start sharing stuff on FB - on my wall, daily. Just 1 or 2 articles.

I noticed that I tend to read other people's stuff which they share, even though I don't comment or like the article. That to me means that by sharing, potentially some of my 'friends' on fb will read some of the stuff but not necessarily comment or like. The more articles I share, the more they associate my sharing with a particular stance (hopefully good!). However, in starting it today, I noticed the following

- Self-censoring myself in terms of what I chose. For one, I didn't feel comfortable putting in stuff about Putin, the western funded war on terror or any other such politically sensitive topics that goes against the mainstream news.

- Worrying about the source of some of the articles I was looking at

In the end, today I shared articles from Chris Hedges (has got a veneer of mainstream credibility) and a psychology today one about Donald Trump. All these articles from SOTT but linked direct to the original source i.e. not SOTT. Eventually I'm hoping to post some SOTT focus articles but all-too worried about the general law.

Hi Luke, I can quite relate. To me, sharing truth on facebook was (and still is to some extend) a HUGE burden, I basically shook from anxiety whenever I posted something. And sometimes I was devastated for days when someone responded to me critically/attacked me. It took me months and years of "biting through" to get more comfortable with this.

So really, I think it's more about programs that prevent us from sharing on facebook that we may wish to overcome - and "strategic enclusure" can be just a convenient narrative to cover up those programs. Think about it: all the horrors that are committed in the world in OUR name, all the horrors our own society suffers from, and we are afraid to speak our mind even a little on a social media site?? Personally, I have enough of "being silent", I want to show the world and the universe that I do NOT agree with a lot of things.

But make no mistake - there will be attacks. There will be hard feelings on the part of some "friends". If they start ranting on your wall, delete them, or block them so that they can't see your posts in the future. But I also had wonderful experiences on FB - people writing to me how much they appreciate my efforts and that they are always looking forward to my posts. People liking things I shared that I would have never suspected to be open to such things. People I have only known briefly long ago who become regular "likers" and commentators. You CAN make a difference on facebook for people! And if you think about it, it's really unfair to NOT help people just because we are so terrified of peer pressure, loosing "friends" or something. Just think about some of the prominent figures who speak out publically - they risk their entire careers and sometimes their lives in doing so. What do we really have to loose, except our Angst and programs?

That being said, strategic enclosure remains important of course, so I think everyone should find a balance between speaking truth on social media and making sure not to mess up one's life by provoking more attack than one can handle at the moment. It's an individual thing, and this is actually a great learning and Work opportunity I think.

What I do, for example, is that I have a list of job-related contacts and a few other folks I don't wish to know my anti-mainstream opinions. Also, I share Sott articles only occasionally, otherwise I post the original articles or other more "semi-mainstream" things. But I make sure to mix in Sott articles! Memes and videos work well too. I also try to express my own opinion in a sentence or two when sharing, which is important. I would also advise against "going overboard", even if we are rightfully angry about the evilness of our leaders/society. It's important to avoid black-and-white thinking. For example, I would rather share an interview with Putin and write "Watch what he has to say and make up your own mind" than "Putin speaks the truth!! The evil propaganda-media are all liars!!" Or I write "Hard to argue with what he says." Well, people don't react well to zealots, and I can understand them! So I guess being a bit conservative would be good advice.

So I think your plan is a good one, that's how I did it too: make it a Work-goal, my religion to share something everyday, or at least 5 articles a week. I struggled terribly, but it became easier with time. As you said, maybe start slow with more mainstreamy stuff, but also be sure to always push the envelope a little (in your own speed) as you become more comfortable with the process. Experiment. When the inevitable attacks come from some "friends", deal with them, take it as an opportunity to Work on issues, journal about your feelings, relate them to past experiences etc.

Great that you took the first step and good luck!

 

[SMM]

It seemd Facebook have deciced to block my account from posting SOTT.net articles, at least on my own wall and timeliness. Well, I'm certainly not surprised at this. CIA and state-funded social media and networking platform they are and all.

Anyone experience this and what were the reasons and outcomes? It just strengthens my resolved to blog, write, create, learn, apply, network share and interact via other mediums.

 

[SMM]

There was a recent story (on Sott?) about China using a social code to ID good behaviors, giving people some sort of credit rating for citizenship value. I do have concerns for Facebook and similar site postings to be used against us one day.

Are you talking about this and this?

These concerns are valid as they're kind of a closedo system; having an alternative platform to network will be crucial And imperative. And probably soon as more people are becoming aware that there is something inherently wrong and unsettling festering in our current relaity.

 

[Yupo]

Yes, those are the stories.
I imagine the day coming when/where/if we don't go rah-rah for the right kind of stuff on Facebook then we will get some unwelcome focus and questioning. Therefore, in my mind, better to avoid it entirely these days.
I remember in 1984 how they had to be sure to cheer for the perpetual war stuff, or be noticed.
Did Orwell have a window into the future?

 

[luke wilson]

Bloody hell.... I feel weird every single time I share...

 

[Ruth]

There was a recent story (on Sott?) about China using a social code to ID good behaviors, giving people some sort of credit rating for citizenship value. I do have concerns for Facebook and similar site postings to be used against us one day.

When I saw the title of this thread, I had a little bit of a giggle. How can we be sure social media isn't 'using us'?

I was under the impression that they may already be using it against us. Perhaps not in a very overt way, but against us never-the-less. And example: The PTB no doubt have some sort of a 'watch list' of people's who's opinion needs monitoring via Facebook. Could be that they monitor this opinion via other means, but seeing as Facebook is so ubiquitous.....

I'm pretty sure employers will do a search before offering a person a job. And from what I've been told having 'friends' on Facebook that you work with, can be problematic. I don't have a Facebook account which is probably a good thing, considering my political and social leanings. It could get me into a whole lot of trouble that I don't need.

With regards to the Chinese take on 'acceptable'. It's always amused me, that for a communist country, they can't 'deprogram' either wealth or social standing as a means of measuring a person. It's almost as if they can't 'deprogram' their hierarchical structure and that this has been directly coded into the people's genes.

 

[luke wilson]

Of all the fears I have,

I'm pretty sure employers will do a search before offering a person a job.

That is the biggest one.

Basically, faced with the question, am I willing to essentially piss off an employer and thus squander my chances of "survival" (money = survival) or at the very least, security (money = security) to share some stuff that is true but goes against the reining philosophy of said employer?

I'm being super careful for fear of the above especially given my employer is a big fat american conglomerate! God jesus christ... I can't be posting stuff about CEOs being psychopaths... or about capitalism being evil...! And what of the big US of A itself, can't really be overtly posting stuff about how they are essentially evil incarnate... Scouring through SOTT trying to find articles that pass all these filters is hard work!

E.g. I just want to find an article about psychopathy, how they rule the world, how they occupy top positions, how their ideology permeates downwards and pollutes everything etc etc BUT they are all using the US/West as bloody examples!!! God damnit, I just need one that will enable people to connect their own dots without those dots already being connected for them!!! In the end, I just went for what psychopathy is and how neo-liberalism capitalism selects for the worst qualities in us (i.e. psychopathic qualities). Most people are unlikely to take pitch forks at me and at the worst I might be called a softy or a humanist or naive by a potential employer/general law agent.

A strategy I find is after posting some of these articles, I'd post a video from the school of life which essentially aids the thinking process by philosophising the whole thing LOL. E.g. after the 2 articles on psychopathy and especially this one (notice the source ;)), I followed up with this video about meritocracy (again, such a likable well educated well spoken gentleman speaking sense in a language that may be associated with the higher ups! LOL)... next I might post about the status anxiety one (many people will relate to that one!) and will hopefully start thinking "why the hell do we have to put up with this sh*t when it's completely clear we are being screwed over - at least the vast majority are!".

 

[Yupo]

It's always amused me, that for a communist country, they can't 'deprogram' either wealth or social standing as a means of measuring a person. It's almost as if they can't 'deprogram' their hierarchical structure and that this has been directly coded into the people's genes.

Well, the wealth/power/status thing in China is very long established as the way things are. The socialism has been just a drop in their bucket, time wise. Maybe true for most places as well.

 

[Renaissance]

Of all the fears I have,

I'm pretty sure employers will do a search before offering a person a job.

That is the biggest one.

You can make your profile and your posts private, so this shouldn't be an issue. If there are certain people you don't want to see your posts or with whom you really need to maintain privacy, you can customize who can or cannot see what you post as well. Sometimes I've found that I'll post more productively just by deleting certain people too. Keep this mantra in mind, "It's just facebook." :P

It sounds like what is holding you back is fear and imagination rather than practicing strategic enclosure. If people don't like what you post, most will just unfriend you or just block your posts from showing up on their wall after a period of time. No biggie. It's more useful to the universe to share something that could be beneficial to another than it is to not do something because you're worried about some numskull throwing a temper tantrum.

Pathogicals dominate by creating conditions where people have to walk on egg shells around them. This is essentially how we've been made to feel in our own communities and societies and this is a driving force for many that keeps them 'in line'. By acting against that, it can show others that thinking outside of 'what we're told' is okay. And it is those others who aren't comfortable with the psychopathic reality that we are trying to reach. It's useful to be cautious and take precautions when necessary, but I don't think it's good to be so guarded so as to withdraw from places where we might be of some help. So be safe, but I think there is usually little need to be 'lockdown, remove your shoes, walk through this naked-death-ray scanner safe'. The authorities have really knocked us over the head with this one!

While SOTT is a result doing the Work, it can serve as an interface of sorts with others. Many of the sources are from mainstream news sites and the topics are all covered in one way or another in the mainstream so these are openings that can be used as opportunities.

E.g. I just want to find an article about psychopathy, how they rule the world, how they occupy top positions, how their ideology permeates downwards and pollutes everything etc etc BUT they are all using the US/West as bloody examples!!! God damnit, I just need one that will enable people to connect their own dots without those dots already being connected for them!!!

In the end, I just went for what psychopathy is and how neo-liberalism capitalism selects for the worst qualities in us (i.e. psychopathic qualities). Most people are unlikely to take pitch forks at me and at the worst I might be called a softy or a humanist or naive by a potential employer/general law agent.

I think I can see where you are coming from, but it looks like you're concern is centered more around managing impressions of your image rather than articles that connect dots for people. Some people may need stronger shocks, others may need milder ones, but it is up to the individual to take what they will (if they take anything at all). It seems you want some control over this and I don't think it works that way.

Social media is different from direct interactions. In the later the situation can often call for getting into political or religious arguments and maintaining a stricter strategic enclosure. But social media is a different ballgame with different ways to navigate, discuss and address different issues, I think.

Remembering the 'spot-light effect' can help some too. People's attention usually isn't focused on you in the way that you feel it is. People are more concerned about what is going on in their own lives, their own interests, distractions, etc.

 

[SMM]

Thank you everyone; these things need to be talked about OSIT.

The idea of the Internet becoming more streamlined is not new, although something tells me 2016 will see many changes.

I am trying to change how I post on Facebook so that there are many different reliable sources and on different topics within reason. However, I'm new to this so this forum's help is crucial.

There are certain things that are just quotes - they don't seem to mind quotes. It's usually links though my experience is limited.

I accidentally posted Eirou Eolas link on someone else page, then tried to edit it. A really strange message came up (see photos attached). I assume that it's related to free will and strategic enclosure so it's deleted now on my part. Did not realize links worked on Facebook with www:// or https://

I, too, am willing to delete (although preferably they delete me as long there is no post-pestering) though some people around my and all ages come asking for links.

From recollection, I did mostly health and spirit sciences. I showed people the article(s) in personal or sent personal messages as they were having problems with health or psychologically.

For that reason, a percentile of my friends trust SOTT.net to be reliable because I would recommend a book alongside and they give something a shot and see some difference.

This being said, those people are also outcasts looking for truth and fearing attacks. I have at least 1 good friend who visits the forum, reads the articles and transcripts etc.

2 others aware of the esoteric content and also seek truth OSIT. I am now hoping they will check out the forum after giving EE a go.

Facebook is generalized: you have authoritarian followers, psychopaths, humans, empaths - basically a potpourri of damaged and functional organic portals and souled beings.

The image that keeps coming to mind is to have something like Facebook for souled beings, though is that not what the forum?

I noticed in fact over time Facebook has adapted to have a more forum setup and format. For example, being able to edit. It's basically a combination of all other networking platforms and second only to Instagram, last I heard - I am not sure where Twitter or the others are.

So, something like this Chinese giving points to citizens are just re-adaptations. Not very original.

It that knowing people are interested however are so used to hiding their true selves i.e. will not get a voice because the information is available, just censored.

There are creative solutions to this when Facebook bites the dust; my gut strongly tells me so deep inside.

There is always good, oldfashioned printing things out which I want to start doing more of and making infolets, getting things from Revolt! wear to leave in community centres, etc.

I am going to post less today overall; work in other ways and give those Facebook moderators a rest haha :p

Also, a few Juice Media videos:
https://youtu.be/k-xSP_T0VqU

 

[SMM]

Strange... I uploaded 2 photos. Trying again:

 

[luke wilson]

Of all the fears I have,

I'm pretty sure employers will do a search before offering a person a job.

That is the biggest one.

You can make your profile and your posts private, so this shouldn't be an issue. If there are certain people you don't want to see your posts or with whom you really need to maintain privacy, you can customize who can or cannot see what you post as well. Sometimes I've found that I'll post more productively just by deleting certain people too. Keep this mantra in mind, "It's just facebook." :P

It sounds like what is holding you back is fear and imagination rather than practicing strategic enclosure. If people don't like what you post, most will just unfriend you or just block your posts from showing up on their wall after a period of time. No biggie. It's more useful to the universe to share something that could be beneficial to another than it is to not do something because you're worried about some numskull throwing a temper tantrum.

Pathogicals dominate by creating conditions where people have to walk on egg shells around them. This is essentially how we've been made to feel in our own communities and societies and this is a driving force for many that keeps them 'in line'. By acting against that, it can show others that thinking outside of 'what we're told' is okay. And it is those others who aren't comfortable with the psychopathic reality that we are trying to reach. It's useful to be cautious and take precautions when necessary, but I don't think it's good to be so guarded so as to withdraw from places where we might be of some help. So be safe, but I think there is usually little need to be 'lockdown, remove your shoes, walk through this naked-death-ray scanner safe'. The authorities have really knocked us over the head with this one!

While SOTT is a result doing the Work, it can serve as an interface of sorts with others. Many of the sources are from mainstream news sites and the topics are all covered in one way or another in the mainstream so these are openings that can be used as opportunities.

E.g. I just want to find an article about psychopathy, how they rule the world, how they occupy top positions, how their ideology permeates downwards and pollutes everything etc etc BUT they are all using the US/West as bloody examples!!! God damnit, I just need one that will enable people to connect their own dots without those dots already being connected for them!!!

In the end, I just went for what psychopathy is and how neo-liberalism capitalism selects for the worst qualities in us (i.e. psychopathic qualities). Most people are unlikely to take pitch forks at me and at the worst I might be called a softy or a humanist or naive by a potential employer/general law agent.

I think I can see where you are coming from, but it looks like you're concern is centered more around managing impressions of your image rather than articles that connect dots for people. Some people may need stronger shocks, others may need milder ones, but it is up to the individual to take what they will (if they take anything at all). It seems you want some control over this and I don't think it works that way.

Social media is different from direct interactions. In the later the situation can often call for getting into political or religious arguments and maintaining a stricter strategic enclosure. But social media is a different ballgame with different ways to navigate, discuss and address different issues, I think.

Remembering the 'spot-light effect' can help some too. People's attention usually isn't focused on you in the way that you feel it is. People are more concerned about what is going on in their own lives, their own interests, distractions, etc.

Thumbs up, totally agree and thanks for bringing up the spot light effect.

The only comment I have is that 'impressions' are to not lightly be dismissed, whether it be about the image of certain topics (think Alex jones) or ones own personal image. Whether we like it or not, this process is an objective phenomena and people react to it, either in terms of how they view certain things external to an individual or how they view you as an individual. Naturally, there are many things that go into creating an impression on any particular thing.

Regarding social media, one has to balance what you are saying & how you are saying it. This not only creates an additional aspect of the impression you give about yourself (which will potentially have a non linear effect on your real world interactions) plus also how people interact with whatever it is you are saying. OSIT.

But hey ho, it's an experimental game and I'm giving it a shot.

 

[Mark7]

But make no mistake - there will be attacks. There will be hard feelings on the part of some "friends". If they start ranting on your wall, delete them, or block them so that they can't see your posts in the future. But I also had wonderful experiences on FB - people writing to me how much they appreciate my efforts and that they are always looking forward to my posts. People liking things I shared that I would have never suspected to be open to such things. People I have only known briefly long ago who become regular "likers" and commentators. You CAN make a difference on facebook for people! And if you think about it, it's really unfair to NOT help people just because we are so terrified of peer pressure, loosing "friends" or something. Just think about some of the prominent figures who speak out publically - they risk their entire careers and sometimes their lives in doing so. What do we really have to loose, except our Angst and programs?

That being said, strategic enclosure remains important of course, so I think everyone should find a balance between speaking truth on social media and making sure not to mess up one's life by provoking more attack than one can handle at the moment. It's an individual thing, and this is actually a great learning and Work opportunity I think.

That's close to how I handle my Facebook postings. I tend to unfriend folks that are just too fanatical about something, (i.e. chemtrails), or if they are just rude or mean-spirited trolls. At the same time, I don't want to end up just preaching to the choir... so it's a trade off.

I mix posts from Sott and other vetted sites that are waking people up, and often post some funny pictures or videos, especially cute or funny animals - which usually get a lot more attention, and that's ok.

It's not often, and entirely unpredictable, but occasionally a Sott article will go semi-viral on my profile, and gets shared by many people which can create a snowball effect. I will never understand why one thing goes viral and other's don't. But it's great when it happens and makes it fun as well.

I checked Reddit out a few weeks ago with a new account - way more bullies, trolls, and 'thought police' on that site, or so it seemed to me.