Vaccinations
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hlat said:
This reminds me of the session from July 18th 2015 where parasites and viruses as a blockage to developing awareness were discussed, and vaccines were indicated as a means of spreading those viruses among us.
Here are a couple of excerpts from the session:
Laura said:
As for transmarginal inhibition, there's an article written by Laura on SOTT: https://www.sott.net/article/136090-Transmarginal-Inhibition
Charade
Jedi Master
https://worldmercuryproject.org/livestream/
Here is a link received from the commission headed by Senator Robert Kennedy Jr. It was a conference held this morning, February 15,2017 in Washington DC. It also features Robert De Niro speaking as well. I didn't hear it live. The video was a live stream to be replaced with an archive which wasn't loaded yet, but I'm going to keep checking it.
Here is a link received from the commission headed by Senator Robert Kennedy Jr. It was a conference held this morning, February 15,2017 in Washington DC. It also features Robert De Niro speaking as well. I didn't hear it live. The video was a live stream to be replaced with an archive which wasn't loaded yet, but I'm going to keep checking it.
Charade
Jedi Master
Charade said:
I just listened to the press conference. It was available on a Facebook link.
The World Mercury Project was challenging a group of journalists to find a study that proved that Thirmerasol in vaccines is safe. They would award that person a $100,000 reward. That's a safe wager because no such study exists. It was a conference to implore reporters and journalists to look into the cover up of the dangers of the vaccine industry. There were four speakers. Kennedy, Del Bigtree, (featured in the VAXXED movie), Robert De Niro. I'll re listen for the other two individuals names. They all made excellent points in their brief speeches.
A Q&A was held afterwards. In answer to one question, about Robert Kennedy heading the Vaccine Commission for President Trump, he said a group of pediatricians were condoning the current vaccine schedule of the CDC and that there was pressure against organizing a commission to question if vaccines were safe. Another project that Trump is trying to promote that is meeting stiff opposition.
It was informative and their efforts are worth supporting IMO.
It is already on SOTT
https://www.sott.net/article/342716-RFK-Jr-De-Niro-hold-press-conference-to-expose-links-between-mercury-and-vaccines
https://www.sott.net/article/342716-RFK-Jr-De-Niro-hold-press-conference-to-expose-links-between-mercury-and-vaccines
WIN 52
The Living Force
It is sad to watch. So many people are of the belief that vaccination is the way to go. You can't even discuss the issue with them. It is encouraging to see that because of injury, there are some high profile people starting to ask questions.
Just wondering if being pro or anti vaccination is a tell as to who is infected with the parasite? Could it be that simple? Likely not but what if it was? Of course there will be a percentage of the population with immunity to the parasite. Roughly 50% to be more precise who have no skin in the game. If you take roughly half of the other 50%, that would leave about 25% of the population who may not be infected or are aware of the issue and are dealing with the infection.
Charade
Jedi Master
Konstantin said:
At the press conference yesterday, De Niro was the least informative with little to say. He plainly stated he wasn't there because of Trump but because of Kennedy. I got a weird vibe from him of not being enthusiastic and not really wanting to be there. He is the schism within the group which wouldn't even be there talking at all if Trump wasn.t giving his support. Hollywood can do so much damage just in a name.
This case dates back to 2015 in Ontario, Canada and concerns a science teacher who was disciplined - lots of words of "allegations" are used in the case. The case now (2017) is under discipline hearing ruling and they may indeed try to ruin his work as a teacher. If so, I hope Robert Kennedy Jr. offers him a job.
Ontario teacher faces discipline for allegedly telling students they 'could die' from vaccination
Teacher allegedly disrupted a 2015 vaccination clinic at his southern Ontario school
The MSN is littered with the story so that it sinks in; the anti-vaxxer meme.
As of this date it should be day two of the hearing.
Obviously, "informed consent" was not high on the list of priorities of nurse Swick. Other articles suggest that Sullivan is an excellent science teacher with a focus on facts, just what the school boards don't want, IMO. As the schools are pretty much a government/pharma lab from the flue shot to HPV, the authorities and media will do their best to shut him down and make an example out of him; and scaring the rest of the teachers off.
A sad state of affairs.
Edit: add link http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/teacher-vaccines-hearing-1.3992640
Ontario teacher faces discipline for allegedly telling students they 'could die' from vaccination
Teacher allegedly disrupted a 2015 vaccination clinic at his southern Ontario school
The MSN is littered with the story so that it sinks in; the anti-vaxxer meme.
As of this date it should be day two of the hearing.
Obviously, "informed consent" was not high on the list of priorities of nurse Swick. Other articles suggest that Sullivan is an excellent science teacher with a focus on facts, just what the school boards don't want, IMO. As the schools are pretty much a government/pharma lab from the flue shot to HPV, the authorities and media will do their best to shut him down and make an example out of him; and scaring the rest of the teachers off.
A sad state of affairs.
Edit: add link http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/teacher-vaccines-hearing-1.3992640
voyageur said:
The hearing was Tuesday and Wednesday, 2/21 and 2/22.
Status
_https://www.oct.ca/members/complaints-and-discipline/disciplinary-hearing-details?RegistrationId=420619
Charging document
_https://www.oct.ca/NOHStream.pdf?documentType=NOH&id=472&lang=E
These are the exact charges against him.
These are the facts alleged.
If he did leave his class unattended and went to the cafeteria 3 times and the office, then he's going to be in trouble. That's not the correct way to fight vaccines. It's not like we can climb the rooftops and shout it out. A better way might have been to spend a week teaching his students about vaccine ingredients and damage to people and even the US vaccine court, using respected medical journals and court rulings.
hlat said:
Yes, if he did, that was not wise, nor perhaps his general approach as alleged. Using the school as a forum while being employed there is not considering. It is possible though, if Sullivan had have been teaching his students in the class topics such as on vaccine efficacy statistics, adjuncts and the track record of resulting illnesses and death, as suggested, a backlash may have resulted regardless. However, conversely, the Health Act states that it is the duty of a health practitioner to engage in 'informed consent' - it is the law under the Act. The question can be asked, did nurse Swick violate the Act?
Nurse Swick did not say "I" warned them, she said "we" warn them as a generalization. So did Swick actually warn anyone? May be Sullivan did not hear this warning and she took offense when called out? From reading so far, the press never examined this aspect in any detail, and if Swick did not properly gain informed consent (as many practitioners do not), it does not bode well under her oath, it is a violation of a right to be informed, OSIT.
voyageur said:
The issue of "informed consent" is a really sticky one.
There are different approaches to informed consent:
Source
In the US most states use the "reasonable patient standard" - and under this standard the nurse might not have violated the Act, as the majority of patients don't want (or they don't know that they would want) to know the rare side effects.
The other problem is: how "rare" are rare side effects? Here the vaccine industry has done a marvellous job at obfuscating the issue, by shoving them under the rug. If you look at official statistics, "rare" events indeed are very rare, because officialdom does not acknowledge vaccine induced illnesses like autism or Guillain-Barre paralysis as a "side effect", but view these things as totally unrelated.
Here in Australia things are a bit more complicated, as the consent process requires a) that risks are divulged using the "reasonable patient standard" AND b) the "subjective standard" as well. While this approach is much more stringent, it has its own issues: Meeting the patient preoperatively for the first time - and for 15 minutes - how do I establish what his subjective standard is? This is, of course, impossible, so the determination will always be made post hoc by a judge, as the medical practitioner lacks tools and time to be able to ascertain this.
The way I work around this issue is, that I always paint the worst case scenario, even if exceedingly unlikely - i.e. "in extreme cases you might die" sort of thing, which again creates its own set of problems.
I think it would be unfair to take the nurse to responsibility for this lax consent process - the problem lies in the industry pushing their products aggressively, spreading misinformation at every level and silencing anyone daring to raise concerns about vaccines.
If nurse Swick did indeed read the "rare side-effects" from the package insert, she would be out of her job in no time.
Ruth
The Living Force
WIN 52 said:
Many of the the highly educated people who speaking out against vaccinations and who are perceived as 'anti-vaxx' are actually pro-choice rather than anti vaccination. Part of the problem is the choice is being taken away from us. The right to challenge, the right to refuse, and the right to demand compensation for harm is also, or already has been, taken away from us.
Those people who are strongly pro-vaccine, and just want to stick a needle into anything that moves, I see as STS aligned. Those who seek safer vaccines and more freedom of choice, I see as STO aligned.
Quite a large percentage of the population are just sheep who follow the herd, or like dogs who want a pat on the head for doing something that their 'masters' approve of. I see those people as OPs. Easily controlled with minimal effort. They'll do what is 'easiest' and/or what gets them the most approval from authority.
Besides the potential problem for infestation, or even viral programming is just one problem for those people who seek freedom from the STS yoke. It's just currently, one of the more 'socially acceptable' forms.
nicklebleu said:
Yes, agreed. So even advocacy for a person/child is met with silencing, even to the child's very parents (as has been seen).
I read some case law on a related, yet unrelated situation. It argued that training was not adequate even though the person had some training, knew what to say, had a duty to say it and knew the risks involved. I've seen it argued the other way too. In the end, the vaccine program is a sacred cow not to be messed with.
