vaporized thread

[realitybugll]

there was this thread I posted in today. now it is completely vanished though. my post is gone too (it doesn't show up in my post history).

Laura I think had said something on the thread about deleting it so I am guessing she deleted it but I don't know for sure. I am wondering what the subsequent happenings were on the thread to get it removed. If I remember correctly Laura just threatened it would be removed if the guy didn't do something.

the guy had come here to to post an autobiography he had written in its entirety--In my opinion just to get it recognized. He didn't really know anything about this forum. So it was spam. but afterward I think he did post coherently and apologized.

I guess I'm asking if this thread is vaporized or not. Also I want to know what happened for it to get deleted because I don't think it was heading in that direction...

not a major concern... just some thoughts I'm having.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi wetroof,

The topic that you are referring to was removed as it contained personal details of other people as well as the poster. Until we can verify some details, we thought it prudent to remove the post. :)

 

[Guardian]

I guess I'm asking if this thread is vaporized or not. Also I want to know what happened for it to get deleted because I don't think it was heading in that direction...

If it had been posted on one of my groups, I would have deleted it due to the massive amount of personal information it contained...birthdays, phone numbers, home address etc.

In addition, there's absolutely no way to tell if a post like that is being made by the person named either...it's ALWAYS possible that a cyberstalker is trying to ruin someone's life. The young man made the same post to several forums , and it appears they've all been deleted, probably for the same reason.. posting someone's personal details is actionable.

Wetroof...personally, I think you're right. The young man wrote an interesting book , and wants others to read it ...but he didn't stop to think of the danger his post could present to the Forum. It's the Mods job to remove anything that could hurt the group or an innocent party.

 

[Guardian]

Hi wetroof,

The topic that you are referring to was removed as it contained personal details of other people as well as the poster. Until we can verify some details, we thought it prudent to remove the post. :)

I should have read yours before I posted :)

I hope Pro realizes that we ALL follow the same rule ...he's not being singled out. When I want to post personal details about someone, predator or otherwise, I put it on my server and post a link to it here.

If we all don't follow this rule, we could wake up one morning without a Forum.

 

[realitybugll]

great, thank you both.

If we all don't follow this rule, we could wake up one morning without a Forum

I didn't realize this.

The young man made the same post to several forums

yes... i remember above top secret came up in the google search. the link was broken though. probably pulled from that forum for legal reasons. makes sense.

I would have liked to correspond with that guy--and well, I still could as I did download the pdf and have his email address. I thought he had good insights into the control system (for lack of a better phrase) but he seemed to think that converting to islam is the way to free oneself from the control. his theories did make some sense... also the "book", I guess you could call, it was very personal and i identified with a lot of it. his high school experience, drug use, sex related issues, living in california & interests in computer programming.

the main thing is I am very confused about the satan/illuminati vs god belief system thing. related to the music industry etc. Laura does not seem to address some of this stuff from the material i've read. I want to know why the guy believes what he does and how he came to the conclusion.

 

[Laura]

What material have you read?

 

[realitybugll]

Hi Laura,

I read 90% of the wave series and some of it twice. Also I read some of "adventures with Cassiopaea". Then some other stuff here and there. Article series at sott.net and from the cassiopaea.org site map.

Last month I watched this ongoing youtube series by "Farkan" about the music industry. He talks about these artists "selling their souls" to Satan. It talked about a lot artists converting to Islam in order to escape from Satan I guess. From reading ISOTM it doesn't make any sense that converting to Islam could actually save you from the corrupting STS influences. but maybe if you were to really endorse the some of the morals of Islam. I figure Islam is pretty similar to Christianity morally. helping others etc. Well its hard to explain. Supposedly Michael Jackson was going to covert Islam. That is why he was murdered. also the defamation because he didn't play by the rules.

The guy Farkan uses a lot of video clips and it was convincing to me. Like-- I could boil down our existence into god vs satan. At the same time I am not sold on this at all. I don't know where to place the information into a multi-dimensional / fourth way view which I got from your writings.

by the way I search "islam" @ cassiopaea.org and I get I few interesting hits. maybe I will look there later.

hmm... I also realize that you were a christian until you were 30 so I bet you do have stuff written on this topic.

 

[Guardian]

yes... i remember above top secret came up in the google search. the link was broken though. probably pulled from that forum for legal reasons. makes sense.

Greg also PM'd me, and I don't know if he got my response, so I'm reposting it here where he can read it:

from: progman on Yesterday at 03:06:17 PM
I saw your post but the power went off mysteriously and now that I have come back I find myself banned. Can you give me the links to the sites you had posted before on research and breathing?

This is the Breathing program...and it's VERY helpful!
http://eiriu-eolas.org

These are forum sections directly related to your posts:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=42.0
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=43.0

Can you explain the removal of the post and the ban?

I'm not a Mod, so I can't say for certain, but if I had to guess I'd say it had something to do with all the personal information posted about other people (and yourself)

NO offense intended, but without any background, how do we know who you really are? You could be someone trying to ruin the life of the real 'Gregory Morse " by posting his personal details and such? It happens every day :(

Posting an image of your Passport is just begging for identity theft (yours or someone elses) , and it's the Mods job to protect the forum.

It's VERY difficult to tell who's doing what on-line, and you did come on VERY strong. It would have been better if you'd posted a short intro and a link to your book on scribd.

I'm still reading your book...take care...and I hope the links help :)

 

[realitybugll]

that's nice of you guardian to provide those links.

well... I wrote more but I deleted it. its saved on my computer. maybe I'll share somewhere more appropriate later. its not related, just a rant concerning me mostly.

 

[Laura]

Are you still seeing your therapist, Wetroof? I'm wondering if this forum is right for you?

 

[Buddy]

Hi wetroof.

This is just my idea, but I would say that, at root, there is one and only one reason why anyone would rant about a 'Satan' and rave about a 'God', even though the reason may not be obvious at first glance. To fuel their self-importance (pump their ego).

Additionally, of course, there may also be an agenda that may range from simply blowing off steam, masking their own criminal intentions, encouraging others towards self (or other) destruction, etc. Thus the need for some discernment.

I don't know where to place the information into a multi-dimensional / fourth way view which I got from your writings.

In my view, STO/STS are acronyms for the broadest possible conceptualization for the Creative force/Entropic force, respectively. Personally, I don't see where one need even consider hyper-dimensionality in order to posit that the God/Satan thing (in their 3D terms) is just one of many sets of symbols that can, and do, represent the fundamental forces of the Universe in some context or other.

With that awareness, one simply extrapolates the underlying dynamics, of what already exists here, into higher dimensional forms. Thus, no need for contradictions, either, OSIT.

Well its hard to explain.

I'm familiar with that. For just a moment, consider the popular view that words and concepts are primarily for communication. Now consider what is needed before communication is even possible. You might get the idea that one first needs some inner clarity, ability to discern (distinguish) on as fine a level as possible.

In my view, a person going out and looking at 'answers', before one even has an idea of exactly what one knows and exactly what one doesn't know, can more easily fall prey to trans-personification with someone whose words and eloquent delivery 'feel beautiful and right' enough to substitute for your own thinking and communication ability and style.

A sure sign that this is happening is when one begins to parrot what others say with no real understanding of what lies beneath and then becomes afraid of being questioned/confronted.

Once trans-personification or selective substitution happens, has the person lost the battle? Or at least made things much more difficult for themselves than they had to be? What do you think?