Very strange experience just happened to me.

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Hi guys.

I've just have a very strange experience a few minutes ago. It was very intense and I'm still quite shocked.

So I was sitting at my computer desk when all of a sudden, I started to feel kind of funny/dizzy. Then all of a sudden, a very weird feeling overwhelmed me and the best way to describe what I felt is that I was kind of stuck between 2 realities. I kind of had weird images/feelings running across my mind but I can't really describe in a physical way. It's as if there were people, entities, things around me and it felt like I've been there before, that I knew what it was. It didn't feel good at all and made me feel kind of nauseous, like if it was a bad presence that made me feel distressed. It's as if they were doing things to me (unpleasant) but I really can't put any words on this.

Anyhow, it lasted for about a minute and I found myself to be burning like a thermonuclear furnace and pouring sweat. I got a whiff of fresh air and everything went back perfectly fine as if nothing have happened (except that I'm a bit shaken to say the least).

Anyways, I'm really puzzled by this. It never happened to me before. It was really overwhelming. I was here and not here at the same time. And wherever I was, something was wrong. Something there made me feel very uneasy as if whatever it was had already "delt" with me in an unfriendly way.

No drugs/alcohol/meds are being remotely inlvoved here. I'm not sick and feeling perfectly fine. Haven't made any changes in diet recently and it has done nothing but wonders so far. Have slept well last night and feel emotionally just fine.

Does any of you have had similar experiences? I don't think I'll ever forget this. It was almost kind of like a dream but not like regular dreams we have when we sleep. It's as if for a moment, my counsciousness split into two realities (for lack of better terms).

Thanks in advance.

Peace.
 
Sounds very disconnecting, scary. Sometimes i've felt internal heat rising out of nowhere and other slight feelings or audible differences. There was discussion in a transcript about mirrors, how they are adjusted and can attract. Perhaps have a look at this in your space as a start? Not sure what else to say as diet seems fixed and there is no illness feelings.
 
voyageur said:
Sounds very disconnecting, scary. Sometimes i've felt internal heat rising out of nowhere and other slight feelings or audible differences. There was discussion in a transcript about mirrors, how they are adjusted and can attract. Perhaps have a look at this in your space as a start? Not sure what else to say as diet seems fixed and there is no illness feelings.

Scary and disconnecting are two perfect terms. Weird and bizzare as well. It was kind of a merge between two worlds and I was right in the middle. But something bad was going on "in the other relam" hence why I felt very uneasy, distressed and nauseous. It had to do with me and "them" (whatever that is I felt being there). It was such a rush and that heat wave was so intense I almost thought I'd spontaneously combust. I couldn't do anything else but to wait until it stopped. Meanewhile I tried to focus on what was scaring me (like, "those" who were there) but I couldn't make out any physical form. They were thoughts and feelings.

I think I have seen that discussion about mirrors so I'll check it back. Anyhow mine is in the bathroom and dosen't face any window. The only other sort of reflective material near it are the shower doors (glass). Also, I wasen't facing it when it happened. I was peacefully cleaning my room and sat down a few minutes to check something on the net.

Diet is going very fine now, haven't even had the slightest cold for almost a year and a half, no matter how people are contaminated around me. I was even living with my aunt and uncle a few months ago and they had caught a very very bad flu (both had to go to the hospital and rest for two weeks) yet I never caught anything (and I'm not what you could call an "antisceptic freak"). Life in general (school, family, friends) has never went so well in my life so it's not as if I was living some particularly stressful or difficult situation at the moment. I also have the best grades in school I've ever had in my life and I'm coincidely doing the hardest program I've ever done. So that's a good sign that my intellectual faculties have greatly improved since I changed the diet (whole Work as a matter of fact).

So I don't know quite frankly. I just hope it'll never happen again.

Thanks for the reply.

Peace.
 
Hey JayMark,

I'm just going to throw out a few thoughts, so for what it's worth. Perhaps it's residual 'stuff' being processed from past addictions (whether food - gluten or other substances)? In terms of food, it can take quite some time for the body to get rid of them.

I'm also wondering if it's some kind of emotional processing you're experiencing. In other words, possibly beginning to deal with feelings you've been running from? If you're cleaning out your system, any hanger on's certainly wouldn't be 'happy' about that as your frequency would no longer match 'theirs'.

I went back over some of your threads and while I see that you're on bone broth and seem to be on the Paleo diet, can you say specifically what it is that you eat? I'm just wondering if there's something that you may be sensitive to.

Last, how are you doing with ee?
 
I understand it wasn't a sleep state experience but similar things happened to me with sleep paralysis (which is rare for me now). My understanding of that is it's an out of body thing, which happens for a variety of different reasons, often not directly related to sleep issues. One is a kind of inadvertent disassociation that being a long time on the computer can trigger (were you tired, on the computer for a long time late at night for instance?)

In that situation, you've got to detach from your body to just sit for that long by itself, so you'd be already in a state where you're ignoring your body's normal cues (like its time to sleep / eat etc.). Then you're sort of already close to, or primed to disassociate.

So if you do go out of body, the centre of perception isn't with the body anymore, so its got to be somewhere else (as you're still perceiving things). Also if you're not in you're body, you cant be perceiving via the body's senses, so what you're seeing isn't you normal sight or what you're sensing in terms of hot / cold is not normal temperature.

If you rule out that its a kind of body / physical malfunction, then Id say you viewing parts of hyper dimensional space.

And if that's the case, then those entities around you where probably there already, because of an openness you might have to them, and and attraction they have to you. If you're in the state of body deprivation (I'm not assuming that's the case), then its more likely those of the predator inclined or maybe the kind of parasitic type, that are feeding from the type of energy you might be giving off.

This all could be way off, in that case take it with a grain of salt, otherwise hope it might add some clarity.
 
Hi guys!

Thanks for the input.

This post will be quite long but I think I am starting to see a picture here, or so it seems in relation to the past and Work I am currently undergoing. I might be wrong but in any case, your insight is always welcome.

truth seeker said:
Hey JayMark,

I'm just going to throw out a few thoughts, so for what it's worth. Perhaps it's residual 'stuff' being processed from past addictions (whether food - gluten or other substances)? In terms of food, it can take quite some time for the body to get rid of them.

That's an idea I've been reflecting on yesterday. I remember Laura saying that it took her something like a good year to really feel better so considering I have been on paleo for a few months only (especially last two months since I've moved on my own and have full control on my groceries) I could be detoxifiying and it could be a factor that lead to the experience.

Also I have moved from countryside to Montréal again for school two months ago and I am concequently subject to more and stronger EMF. So perhaps since I'm cleansing, I am becoming more sensitive in a way and it could have been a factor that led to the experience.

But appart from that, there is more...

I'm also wondering if it's some kind of emotional processing you're experiencing. In other words, possibly beginning to deal with feelings you've been running from? If you're cleaning out your system, any hanger on's certainly wouldn't be 'happy' about that as your frequency would no longer match 'theirs'.

Good point. Even though things are going better and better, I'm far from being pure and "issue-less".

Here's a bit of my past. I'll touch the subject of my chemical addiction (legal med) but will not name it (unless relevant) nor discuss the 'act of', quantities or anything alike. It's very important for me to talk about it since it's a major point of my past but wish to do it within the forum's guidelines. I do not condone it at all as you'll see, it eventually led me to almost try to kill myself. So if there is anything wrong with the way I put it, just tell me.

During the years when I was a profound addict (chemical and sexual) I've had countless experiences with "beings" of some sort being around me, draining my life energy. They also often made me feel very intense sexual sensation (very serious here, literally as if they were having sex with me) and then they would drain it etc. At some point I got addicted to those "sexual encounters" but they would only happen if I "tuned" my mind to the right frequency with a legal substance (still a very strong mind-altering substance) and that would open myself right up to all sorts of attacks. So indeed a very vicious cycle. That, in the end, lead me almost to complete destruction of myself and having very strong suciadal thoughts (since the beginning of my addictions etc. and time I almost tried commiting suicide, about 6 years had passed).

Now I know this paragraph may seems crazy and it would be easy to blame it on substances telling myself there are no such things as "beings" that do that, I just hallucinated etc. but with everything I read here, I can make so many links with what I've experienced that I can't just dismiss it as being a mere figment of my immagination, or at least, certainly not entirely. More so, my sister who is very sensitive to that kind of stuff went once in my bedroom to sleep while her room was being renovated and she ended up waking up to a dark figure trying to choke her at night. Note that she wasen't aware of my experiences. One of her friend also said she saw a huge dark figure in my door frame (and she wasen't aware of my situation neither). Me and my sister could even pin point the strongest "energy point" in my room, kind if we had found a "door". When I was "tuned in" I could see "conduits" (that would drain my energy) one that led to my third eye chackra and also primal chackra when sex was involved. Those conduits seemed to emanate from these "entities". Now about primal chackra and sex, I understnad but what's up with third eye chackra?

Other symptoms have included my floor getting so cold I had to put slippers (and my floor was carpeted), "dark figures" passing through my body and touching me (cold, tension) and I've also been choked very intensely at least once.

Anyhow, will elaborate if asked. I am totally open to discuss this with you guys. There is a lot more for me to learn from that very dark part of my life. I think that as much as my dissociative experience was terrifying, as much as I think it just re-opened a very important door with a whole new perspective.

Coincidely, I've had some weird cravings not so long ago about the addictions I discussed. I wasen't feeling bad or anything (actually I was in a happy mood) but it got to me pretty intensely for a few minutes. I decided of course not to let myself fall back into this and then, coincidely again, this whole experience (my dream-like dissociation) happened a few days later. Kind if "something" dosen't like the fact I quit all this crap and want me "back at it" (I like to call this a self-destruction program). Could also be part of my own-self (like the old ego) but I feel there might very well be more, or should I say, more "influences" from beyond.

I went back over some of your threads and while I see that you're on bone broth and seem to be on the Paleo diet, can you say specifically what it is that you eat? I'm just wondering if there's something that you may be sensitive to.

Last, how are you doing with ee?

Meat: Beef, pork, fish
Fats: Lard, butter
Veggies: Sometimes a bit of mushroom and/or onions, more rarely a bit of salad
Other: Eggs (sometimes), bone broth, salt, melatonin

About EE, I should really put more efforts into it. I often just don't even think about it. Pipe breathing alone is very easy to do and can be done virtually anywhere (and I'm able to do it silently now). Thanks for brigning this very point. It is important and would help me a lot, especially with what happened. Quite frankly, I should have done that right after my experience to help me calm down but for some odd reason, it didn't even come to my mind. I think I'll put reminders everywhere I go (papers etc) to help me think about it until it becomes a natural reflex.

alkhemst said:
I understand it wasn't a sleep state experience but similar things happened to me with sleep paralysis (which is rare for me now). My understanding of that is it's an out of body thing, which happens for a variety of different reasons, often not directly related to sleep issues. One is a kind of inadvertent disassociation that being a long time on the computer can trigger (were you tired, on the computer for a long time late at night for instance?)

I've had sleep paralysis in the past and although it wasen't like it, I do note similarities, especially the mind-body dissociation.

Actually I wasen't tired at all. I had slept very well the night before. Also, I had been cleaning my room peacefully for a great part of the morning like I usually do on weekends and I had just sat down to check my messages on the net when it happened.

In that situation, you've got to detach from your body to just sit for that long by itself, so you'd be already in a state where you're ignoring your body's normal cues (like its time to sleep / eat etc.). Then you're sort of already close to, or primed to disassociate.

I would guess it is very possible but as I've said, I slept the entire night before and barely got on the net for a few minutes when it came.

So if you do go out of body, the centre of perception isn't with the body anymore, so its got to be somewhere else (as you're still perceiving things). Also if you're not in you're body, you cant be perceiving via the body's senses, so what you're seeing isn't you normal sight or what you're sensing in terms of hot / cold is not normal temperature.

Humm, in that case, I wasen't totally out of my body. As I stated, it felt exactly as if half of my consciousness was in another (non-physical) relam while the other half remained here. I could still perceive via senses but only partly as half of my mind was elsewhere perceiving other things (diffrently) all at the same time. About the temperature it was burning hell. So whether or not it was my real temperature, it still made my body intensely purge sweat for about 10 seconds.

If you rule out that its a kind of body / physical malfunction, then Id say you viewing parts of hyper dimensional space.

Could be one, the other or both. I really think there deffinately was something esoteric/paranormal about this to be honnest. If I think of what I experienced in the past as stated above, about what's going on now, about all I've read here and also about other people's experiences, I would say it is very possible although there is a lot of speculation here of course. So I'm not going to draw any definitive conclusion.

And if that's the case, then those entities around you where probably there already, because of an openness you might have to them, and and attraction they have to you. If you're in the state of body deprivation (I'm not assuming that's the case), then its more likely those of the predator inclined or maybe the kind of parasitic type, that are feeding from the type of energy you might be giving off.

From experience and research, it is highly probable that I've attracted many negative entities in the past. Maybe they are visiting and trying to pull me back into the hell I was before in order to feed off me and prevent me from "awaking" (since knowledge protects). Again, this is speculative but you know, after all that either I am completely mentally ill or either there was indeed a great deal of paranormal in my life.

This all could be way off, in that case take it with a grain of salt, otherwise hope it might add some clarity.

No worries. We are all speculating at this point. I might be completely off myself. But I do see some interesting pattern starting to emerge. Thanks for replying.

Pheww, that was long! Took me well over an hour! But I feel great sharing all this with you guys.

So for those who had the courage to get through it feel entirely free to add insight. Thanks for reading.

Peace.
 
JayMark said:
Me and my sister could even pin point the strongest "energy point" in my room, kind if we had found a "door". When I was "tuned in" I could see "conduits" (that would drain my energy) one that led to my third eye chackra and also primal chackra when sex was involved. Those conduits seemed to emanate from these "entities". Now about primal chackra and sex, I understnad but what's up with third eye chackra?

Good question. A few years ago I had an experience that seemed to be an entity attachment, a worm, right in the area of my third eye. It came out after efforts spent challenging disturbed sexual inclinations that I had. I am not sure what to make of it either, however, that it would be in that area.

In this session the chakras are discussed:

"C session July 13 said:
Q: Is this a correspondence that starts at the basal chakra which relates to the sexual center as described by Mouravieff?

A: No. The "sexual center" corresponds to the solar plexus.

Lower moving center - basal chakra

Lower emotional - sexual chakra

Lower intellectual - throat chakra

Higher emotional - heart chakra

Higher intellectual - crown chakra

Q: (L) What about the so-called seventh, or "third eye" chakra?

A: Seer. The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers.

{Laura's note: This would "close the circuit" in the "shepherd's crook" configuration.}

Some thoughts on this, perhaps this union can take place even when these chakras are not "clear" or in a healthy state. And perhaps this would act as a lock of sorts, to trap an individual in a certain dynamic, leading both heart and mind astray. With the goal of 4D STS to be total subservience to these dynamics / feeding patterns. I am thinking that if one had a wrong idea, but their 'heart was not in it' so it speak, this would be a pattern easier to break free from. Or if their heart, however maligned, was in it, the idea would seem so wrong to the mind (once utilized) that the pattern could be broken.

I do not know what it means this 'shepherds crook' configuration, but perhaps there are other, unhealthy, circuit configurations that can be "closed" as well.
 
Hi JayMark,

Before proceeding further, would you like this thread to be moved to a more private section of the forum?
 
truth seeker said:
Hi JayMark,

Before proceeding further, would you like this thread to be moved to a more private section of the forum?

Hi JayMark. I second truth seeker's question. In addition, I recommend taking in water and nourishment to avoid dehydration and nutrient depletion. It might be that the experience required a lot of energy from you. Anyway, I've read of detox experiences that got pretty wild for people with a certain history--even to the extreme of reliving their original experiences. So do take good care.
 
truth seeker said:
Hi JayMark,

Before proceeding further, would you like this thread to be moved to a more private section of the forum?

Hi truth seeker,

I do not feel it necessary to move this to a more private place. I am very open about it and if my sharings can help other people as well, I'd be more than glad. But thanks for caring though. If anything, I'll let you guys know.

Indeed I go into some serious and personal details here. Actually, most of what I described I have never told anybody else in my entire life. But at the same time, I know many people live very difficult and personal experiences that they don't want to talk about. So if any of those people can relate to my story somehow at some level and learn something without having to share too deeply, well that makes me happy.

If on the other hand some poeple prefer to judge or anything (still quite unlikely on this board) well be it, that dosen't bother me at all.

So don't hesitate to ask me personal questions if you think it might be worth it/relevant and appropriate. I have no problem discussing the most personal aspects of it quite frankly. And that is because I think this is exactly the right place to do so considering the goal of this forum and also something that helps me as much as it can help others such as those who might have/have had similar issues but do not want to talk about it, or at least not yet.

I don't know, it might seem weird for some to be as open but you know, after being here for over six months now (still a "baby" hehe) I have developed a very strong sense of trust in regards to this board and the people who take part in it. The main reason is as simple as because this group is totally independant, benevolant (want to help), unbiaised and objective. More so, I have an inner feeling that urges me to share this. That may be why I don't mind. Perhaps that it is because it is exactly the right thing to do for the benefit of my own self and others who does/will read this. I hope it makes sense.

Buddy said:
Hi JayMark. I second truth seeker's question. In addition, I recommend taking in water and nourishment to avoid dehydration and nutrient depletion. It might be that the experience required a lot of energy from you. Anyway, I've read of detox experiences that got pretty wild for people with a certain history--even to the extreme of reliving their original experiences. So do take good care.

Thanks buddy. Will do.

My heart goes with you guys.

Peace.
 
Hi JayMark,

Well, the reason I suggested placing this thread in a more private area had less to do with the members of this forum and more to do with your information floating around the internet for anyone to come across. If at any point you change your mind, feel free to let us know. :)

From what you've written regarding diet, everything seems okay unless you're reacting to the few veggies and/or eggs.

Other than that, I don't have a lot more to add except that it does seem as if it may be further processing/detoxing due to diet and yes, definitely try to renew your efforts with ee. I would suggest that you refrain from the baha portion of it for now because it tends to speed up emotional processing and you may want to take that more slowly.
 
I can definitely relate to the split off perception and energy surges, it has been happening more over the last couple of days. For example, I was reading a few days back and in my minds eye, right next to me, was this wolf like creature sniffing me, on my right side. It's been a general feeling that there are predators of all sorts circling around, just waiting for the slightest moment of weakness in order to pounce.

EE is definitely a great tool in this war, and on that note, I go to use it.
 
truth seeker said:
Hi JayMark,

Well, the reason I suggested placing this thread in a more private area had less to do with the members of this forum and more to do with your information floating around the internet for anyone to come across. If at any point you change your mind, feel free to let us know. :)

Will do. Thank you.

From what you've written regarding diet, everything seems okay unless you're reacting to the few veggies and/or eggs.

Other than that, I don't have a lot more to add except that it does seem as if it may be further processing/detoxing due to diet and yes, definitely try to renew your efforts with ee. I would suggest that you refrain from the baha portion of it for now because it tends to speed up emotional processing and you may want to take that more slowly.

Yes it could very well be a combination of everything actually. Sort of like my mind/body getting adjusted to it's new mode of operation. A cleansing/detoxifiying physically and mentally perhaps. Getting more "in-touch" with myself and my abilities. Prehaps more "tuned" to be able to perceive a bit more yet as my awarness expands through the Work. That part was scary but I still find it facinating to say the least. Offers me a great opportunity to put it in perspective with everything else I've experienced in my life and to understand better the forces in play if I may say so.

bngenoh said:
I can definitely relate to the split off perception and energy surges, it has been happening more over the last couple of days. For example, I was reading a few days back and in my minds eye, right next to me, was this wolf like creature sniffing me, on my right side. It's been a general feeling that there are predators of all sorts circling around, just waiting for the slightest moment of weakness in order to pounce.

EE is definitely a great tool in this war, and on that note, I go to use it.

Pretty interesting.

Peace.
 
ignis.intimus said:
Q: (L) What about the so-called seventh, or "third eye" chakra?

A: Seer. The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers.

{Laura's note: This would "close the circuit" in the "shepherd's crook" configuration.}

I do not know what it means this 'shepherds crook' configuration, but perhaps there are other, unhealthy, circuit configurations that can be "closed" as well.
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Hi Team,

Having poked around in a few threads I'm wondering if the 'shepherds crook' mentioned above has been defined anywhere in the context of the 'C's particular usage?

I'm aware of Leadbeaters (et al) concept of the thoracic / aorta - crozier etc. but I personally don't find that very satisfying.

In the course of personal observation I'm starting to suspect a correlation between the pituitary, pineal & spinal cords own 'shepherds crook configuration' - and obviously taking into consideration Calcium's exceptional conductivity and frequency Tx / Rx abilities. This appears to me at least a plausible symbol (in physical terms) of the body's ability to not only receive 'waves' via interaction with the skeletal structure and then tranduce via the endocrine- but also to transmit in the opposite direction?

Something along the lines of a 'Quantum energy generator'?

All feedback appreciated.

Cheers
 
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