Virus that starts with Abscess/Tooth infection

[happyliza]

Emma it is a private hospital as the public one closes except for emergencies around 2pm and I wanted to get the results asap and this would have meant waiting another 24 hours and at the time I felt desperate. I would not have been able to afford to stay in the hospital anyway, but yes, the doctor said all tests urine and blood were clear. So he would not have thought to keep me in.

Mariama i didn't apply dmso to my tooth as since the dentist took all the infection out i have not had a problem with it since. But i do put silver into my 'medicine' glass, just a couple of sprays.

Is there any benefit to taking dmso? If so which method? I have the 100% version.

I would definitely have been hyperventilating I am sure. Yes I always use belly breathing, especially with the nausea and light-headedness etc. However I was so concentrating on trying to stay still and not squirm all over the place that this is when I would have done shallow hyperventilation. I could not breath deeply as it only provokes a coughing fit due to the lower lungs being congested. There is shortness of breath, a bit like asthma, and climbing stairs/walking makes it worse of course.

I agree about the shallow breathing and forgetting to breathe - but I rarely catch myself. Usually under emotional stress is the worst. Also get sleep apnaeia - where you stop breathing, so not good quality sleep. I have had this for ages though along with tinnitus.

Thanks for liking the FB posts. I get a lot of satisfaction from doing this work, plus as it truly focuses me it helps beat the depression symptoms!

Gaby, my grateful thanks for chipping in, and more importantly putting my mind at rest that this thing does exist. I too am appalled that nothing on MSM, as usual, warning people. Strange your also saw tests totally useless, but had the knowledge to know people were deadly serious and frightened due to the myriad symptoms all happening at once.

Naturally I will heed your advice and do my best to obtain as many of these supplements as possible. I do hope you remain strong and protected from this as you know you will be out of operation for ages otherwise. Due to the temperature fluctuations, and mainly cold back etc I didn't feel it was prudent to do the cold showers but i will start again then. Don't have a fir blanket though.

I only know of another case here so I think my b/f was the transmitter working in a casino, as he had sporadic symptoms, including tooth problems, and mny people take the flights to get there from Turkey.

Thanks Gaby sorry to hear you are innundated, keep strong, and thanks for the advice. Recovery and productivity here we come!

 

[happyliza]

Now it is a good time to commit ourselves to good health. We should all have medical supplies with basic stuff that will help us go through these epidemics more successfully.

So true. This is a wake up call for me as I obviously went down with it 24th December, just when it started. This tells me that my immune system is not strong enough to counter such things. Luckily I had half of the supplements but I think we should all keep good stocks of natural remedies for this reason. I know they are expensive, but so is the alternative!!

People seen to go down like flies with this awful flu strain, so take extra measures peeps and stay strong and healthy.

 

[anothermagyar]

[quote author=happyliza]Due to the temperature fluctuations, and mainly cold back etc I didn't feel it was prudent to do the cold showers but i will start again then.[/quote]

I would wait with that, considering your current state.

Emma it is a private hospital as the public one closes except for emergencies around 2pm and I wanted to get the results asap and this would have meant waiting another 24 hours and at the time I felt desperate.

Yeah, totally understand.
How sad, just like here in the US, you can only go to hospital when you have money or the right insurance.

I would definitely have been hyperventilating I am sure. Yes I always use belly breathing, especially with the nausea and light-headedness etc. However I was so concentrating on trying to stay still and not squirm all over the place that this is when I would have done shallow hyperventilation. I could not breath deeply as it only provokes a coughing fit due to the lower lungs being congested. There is shortness of breath, a bit like asthma, and climbing stairs/walking makes it worse of course.

Dunno, I'm not a doctor but I hope it is not bronchitis.
I don't mean to scare you, just thinking out loud. :/
A major concern with flu-like symptoms and nasty "colds", the aftermath.
That's why is important to stay in bed so you get stronger, fight it off, and you will not getting secondary infections.

 

[daddycat]

I take one teaspoon a day(in one dose) - never occured to take every 30 minutes, but i only have 8oz jar and cannot get it here.

Vitamin C at only 1 teaspoon a day is probably not helping you much. Since you are sick, you will likely need more than 6 teaspoons a day of Thorne Research Buffered C powder. I suggest taking 1 teaspoon (first dose), and then waiting 30 minutes before taking the next 1 teaspoon (2nd dose), and then waiting 30 minutes before taking the next 1 teaspoon (3rd dose). After the 3rd dose, it'll be good to pay attention if your stomach makes any kind of gurgling or sounds, which is a sign that you are approaching bowel tolerance. If at any time you think you are near or at bowel tolerance, then stop with the vitamin C for the day. If you are not near bowel tolerance yet, continue to the next 1 teaspoon (4th dose) after 40 minutes, and keep repeating the pattern of waiting 40 minutes and taking another dose until you think you are near bowel tolerance.

Thorne Research Buffered C powder, Ascorbic Acid maybe only has about 2.35g per teaspoon. The ingredients don't add up, so I'm not sure what other ingredients are not listed.
_https://shop.thorne.com/buffered-c-powder

I know you only have a small bottle and are trying to conserve it. However, you are sick, and it is a good idea to use your vitamin C now to get better.

Our experiences using vitamin C for speeding the cure of a condition is by titration to bowel tolerance. In one case, my 5 foot tall, 100 pound daughter, tolerated 100 grams before she reached the limit; an indication of how sick she was.

In general, when one of us gets sick, we start with 5 grams and keep dosing every half hour until the bubbly feeling in the intestines begins, then stop. That tells you your dose and can also indicate how ill you are.

The liposomal version can boost your blood levels of vitamin C much higher without bowel intolerance showing up so fast, which can be an advantage when that is needed.

See this: http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm

 

[JonnyRadar]

I know you only have a small bottle and are trying to conserve it. However, you are sick, and it is a good idea to use your vitamin C now to get better.

Totally agree with this. If you have the C, use it now when you need it and worry about re-stocking later after you get better. :)

I also wanted to suggest, if you have a good chiropractor in your area and you can afford a visit (often they're not very much money compared to doctors), that may help with your healing. Spine health is essential to the functioning of your organs and circulatory system, and if you have any adjustments that need to be made (which can exist without any noticeable pain), it may do you well to have that done now.

The last time I visited my chiropractor, I learned that my digestion was being upset by a small displacement of a vertebrae which was disrupting nerve signals to the stomach. As soon as he made the adjustment, you wouldn't believe the gurgling and bubbling that happened! It's fascinating how much the spine has to do with everything else being in sync...

 

[happyliza]

I just wish to give an update on this virus. The good news is that 3 days ago I got an incredible energy surge for 2 days (my white oak bark tablets had not arrived by then), I was able to do two 18 hour non stop DIY stints on the flat which totally amazed me as never had that much energy in years!

Things have stabled out now and I am feeling much better. The cough is still serious, more like bronchitis. Also face skin and hair is very dry. The depression has finally lifted.

An interesting note for peeps though is that this thing plays havoc with the mood swings. The best way I could describe it is the worst PMT you could imagine. You really hate yourself for the person you see yourself becoming and need a very patient and understanding partner to be able to put up with the terrible, unpredictable moods and contradictory thinking. It is like your hormones have gone totally haywire.

Ironically it is also costly! Due to the forgetfulness, leaving lights, iron, water heater etc on, my electricity bill is double this month!

The worst part for me was that we were totally broke, cold, as no gas for heating, cut off from the internet and no credit for mobile - a nightmare (an idea for what life will be like shortly I guess). Thank goodness I had enough food stocks, bone-broth and fat. However, I sold my last pair of gold earrings to help get some meat in and some small change in our pockets!

The flowerpot and tea-light idea for warmth I tried last year so it did take the 'edge' off the bitter cold evenings - staying under blankets had to suffice. Dwellings here are not built for the cold or damp!

I am sure taking all the recommended supplements played a big part in the recovery as well as the diet. So I am very grateful. Brain is working better and I was able to plan and design the next few necessary DIY projects to be done in the flat.

As there were so many capsules to take - about 10 every day, I was concerned about the amount of 'plastic' I was putting in my body. So I decided to open the capsules and mix all the contents together with the tinctures, vit C and probiotic powders instead. Then I only had a few tablets to swallow. I hope this doesn't change the function of the supplements by doing this?

After reading the Saffron article I am now adding strands to my herbal tea too! I had some I bought from the bazaar in Istanbul ages ago luckily.

So a big thank you to everyone for your timely advice. Is there any recognition of this virus yet, does it have a 'label' yet?

 

[anothermagyar]

I'm glad you're doing much better!


Dunno if it helps but when I had those nasty coughs, I used to drink thyme tea.
Just soak the herb in hot water, cover it, let it sit 5 minutes and drink it.
:)

 

[happyliza]

Thanks Emma for the tip. I will try that as I have both the oil and 5 herb teabags that include it. So will use both. Nature comes to the rescue again, as usual!

 

[Skyfarmr]

Anytime I have an illness that accompanies sore joints and fatigue I tend to think of the adenovirus. Many strains, and each strain can be specific to different areas of the body experiencing inflammation (lactic acid build up). So the recommendations already posted which will reduce inflammation would be great place to start.

My go to for any viral infection (or joint inflammation) is a good quality oregano oil, 3-5 drops per empty "O" cap, after meals, 3Xs/day. I usually begin feeling relief after 2-3 days but will continue taking for a week or more, combining infrared heat to affected area to improve circulation to the area and maybe a couple of ibuprofen before bedtime if pain is keeping me from getting restful sleep; this also keeps inflammation down so the oregano oil can get to where it is most needed.

I have a mouthful of amalgam, and it takes some consistent care and nutrition to overcome the effects of the crap leaching into the body.
Regular use of chelating foods such as cilantro, wheat grass juice, parsley, and other chlorophyll containing foods help keep these from accumulating. I've noticed an improvement in the brain fog symptoms and resistance to infections since incorporating more fresh chlorophyll and blood donation (to manage iron overload; high vitamin C is contraindicated). BTW, elevated iron is a prime environment for many pathogens, but so is low iron; restoring healthy iron levels will give your immune system a big boost. I know that until the amalgam source is removed, the heavy metals will continue to leach.

I also use the regular awful tasting Listerine, which contains essential oils, seems to help control and delay the decaying sad state of my teeth until I can afford to do my mouth up right.

An affordable organic source for oregano oil can be ordered from rosemountainherbals.com. Young Living oils are high quality, too, but very pricey.

A long thread on hemochromotosis (HHC) aka iron loading, can be found here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20265.msg203157.html#msg203157

A lot of good recommendations in this thread, all of which will restore your health and immune system.
Best of luck, hope you can find relief.

 

[Miss.K]

Regarding liposomal C, it may not be a true liposomal solution, but I've found that a high-speed blender comes close. I can take 30-50 grams at a time without reaching bowel tolerance using this method:

- Heat some water to about 180/200 degrees F, 82/93 C.
- In a glass put 2 tablespoons (or as much as you want) coconut oil and pour enough hot water over it to help it melt. Set that aside.
- In the blender, put your ascorbic acid powder and baking soda and pour some room temp or cold water over top of it, pulse blend it for a second to mix it together, then let sit until the bubbles subside. I use 1 tbsp ascorbic acid (about 15 grams) and 1.5 tsp baking soda (about 7.5 grams) to make a sodium ascorbate solution.
- Once the bubbles go down and the ascorbate has formed, drop in the contents of the glass with the melted coconut oil and blend at high speed for 3-4 minutes.
- Once blended, chug it down.

Note: I add other things to this solution sometimes as well, depending on how I'm feeling, like magnesium powder or a nanosilver solution.

It is my understanding that C-vit and magnesium cancel each other out so that they should be taken separately with at least an hour between each, Is this not so?

Glad you're doing better Happyliza, hope you get rid of the last part of it soon :)

 

[JonnyRadar]

Happyliza, that's awesome! :D So glad you're feeling better! Thanks for the update. :)

It is my understanding that C-vit and magnesium cancel each other out so that they should be taken separately with at least an hour between each, Is this not so?

Honestly I'm not sure. I didn't have the same understanding, I didn't think they would affect each other, but I would be very interested in any sources you might have? I did some searching before making this post (albeit not for a long time), but couldn't find anything conclusive that said magnesium cancels vit C when taken together...

 

[Miss.K]

Happyliza, that's awesome! :D So glad you're feeling better! Thanks for the update. :)

It is my understanding that C-vit and magnesium cancel each other out so that they should be taken separately with at least an hour between each, Is this not so?

Honestly I'm not sure. I didn't have the same understanding, I didn't think they would affect each other, but I would be very interested in any sources you might have? I did some searching before making this post (albeit not for a long time), but couldn't find anything conclusive that said magnesium cancels vit C when taken together...

My source is a friend of mine who has done a lot of studies on vitamins and herbs. I called her to ask, and she didn't remember any specific places were it was written, but she says the reason is that c vitamin oxidizes metals, and magnesium is a metal, so the magnesium is destroyed and the c vitamin is used on destroying the magnesium when taken together.

 

[happyliza]

Thanks for the further advice pointers and well wishes everyone. I really appreciate the feedback, and to ensure I am doing the best possible re supplements and recovery.

Still a way to go on the fatigue and sleep patterns but listen to my body and leave the housework and just lie down and work on my laptop when energy hits low. At least I am still doing something positive that way, though the mind still nags me about any obvious messiness.

I will take the magnesium just before bed and leave an hour break between the Vit c just to be on the safe side.

Funny I was just studying all the different therapeutic oils yesterday. I have quite a few and have been using the thyme oil in tea - with other herbs, lavender to help relax/sleep and put in the bath as well as burning vetivert, lavender, and albus oil/eucalyptus oil to help with the cough. I will see if i can get the oregano locally, though i did have the urges to use a lot of oregano in my cooking and bone broth recently.Plus oddly - although it may be inflammatory I felt i needed some chilli powder and paprika in the bonebroth - it certainly helps the throat and taste of the soup!

 

[daddycat]

Have you been taking vitamin C until you are almost at bowel tolerance?

 

[happyliza]

I think I mentioned earlier that I went overboard and got the runs etc. I am on 2 heaped teaspoons now but have nearly finished my stock - have approx 2 days more left. Then will have to revert to old stock of the time release capsules.