Waking up before your alarm and Presentiment

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Hi guys,

I follow Rupert Sheldrake on Substack, and just in case you may have not seen it, I found the following article rather interesting and thought provoking. Have any of you awoken before your alarm goes off? or before something is to take place even if unexpected?

I usually do, minutes before my alarm goes off, although this trend changes depending on how tired I am and the quality of sleep I get, but it's fairly common, I also remember my grandma telling me when I was young that you could "pray" to the "animas" (which are recently passed people that hang around) to help you wake up at a certain time and it would happen.

Sheldrake has a presentiment theory that sounds very interesting, and so I figured I'd share and maybe ask if this is a common occurrence for you guys?

 
I used to wake up a few seconds before the alarm clock rings. Sometimes I deactivate to avoid the annoying sound, and go back to sleep. Since it can be that useless, I got rid of it. Usually I wake up at a consistent time regardless of the time of falling asleep. However, I noticed that when I have something important to do, I automatically wake up earlier than usual.
 
Having kids means there’s little use for an alarm clock because they’ll wake you up well before you want or need to get up ;-D

With young infants I would often wake up just moments before they did for nighttime feeding, it doesn’t matter if there wasn’t consistent timing for the feeds, I would come awake and then hear baby start grizzling. I wondered if I was sensing the baby starting to wake or if they were sensing me wake up. Could be both.

As a teen my alarm way set for 7:04am, every day without fail I woke up literally seconds before the alarm went off. I assumed it was my body clock waking me as I never hit the snooze button, just immediately threw my covers off and got up. I wonder if using the snooze button would have changed that.
 
For me, it can happen if I get enough sleep, or if I have something important in the morning. At times I have problems falling asleep, and after a period of not getting enough sleep, I might sleep through multiple alarms without waking up.

That being said, I occasionally visit a floating tank / sensory deprivation tank, where you float in salt water in darkness, and without any sounds for 60-90 minutes. I find that my internal clock works very well there, and I often turn on the lights seconds before the "alarm", or in this case, the music starts playing, signaling that it's time to leave.

Another thing with regard to the presentiment hypothesis that I've sometimes experienced is waking up to a loud unexpected noise, but it feels as if the dream adjusts in advance to incorporate the noise, and have it make sense in the dream. Or is this just invented by the brain afterward?

Here is also a recent article from Popular Mechanics framing precognition as "memories from the future"
 
Here is also a recent article from Popular Mechanics framing precognition as "memories from the future"
I would be interested to read your synopsis of the linked article, or specific excerpts of it, since the Popular Mechanics publication is “membership only”.
This is what I get, when I follow the link:

This article is for Popular Mechanics members only.​

 
I would be interested to read your synopsis of the linked article, or specific excerpts of it, since the Popular Mechanics publication is “membership only”.
This is what I get, when I follow the link:

This article is for Popular Mechanics members only.​

That’s weird, I can see it

Time is not how we experience it on an everyday level,” says Radin. “In quantum mechanics, time may not even be part of our physical reality. It’s not that time doesn’t exist. It just behaves in a much stranger way than how it is seen through the lens of the human experience. It suggests there’s something probably associated with our consciousness that is different from our everyday experience of time. It’s able to jump outside ordinary experience and receive information from the past or future.”
Far from the carnival fortune-tellers whose clairvoyance comes from glancing at their customers’ social media accounts in a haze of incense, psychologists and neuroscientists have been trying to figure out what exactly is behind precognition, which is considered a type of extrasensory perception, or ESP. This unshakable feeling that something will transpire in the future is ancient among shamans and mystics, yet it remains unexplained.

Precognition suggests that our consciousness might actually reach beyond the linear perception of time, according to parapsychologist Dean Radin, Ph.D., the chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and associated distinguished professor of integral and transpersonal psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies. He has been probing consciousness for decades, and is the author of several books on the topic, including Entangled Minds, the award-winning Supernormal, and Real Magic.

While working at the University of Nevada in the mid-1990s, Radin created an experiment to prove it. His hypothesis was that if awareness transcended time, responses to an upcoming stimulus would appear before the stimulus itself. Subjects were wired to an EEG machine and then told to press a button on a computer screen to be shown a random image. This image would either be positive, such as a sunrise, or negative, like a car crash.

The EEG would gauge brain activity within the five seconds between the prompt and the image. Predictions of seeing a positive image elicited little to no emotion, while a spike in brain activity meant the subject had a feeling they were going to be shown a negative image. This experiment has since been replicated ad nauseam and echoed the original results, which were statistically significant.

Since then, this type of pre-sentiment study has been successfully replicated about three dozen times. In 1995, the CIA even declassified its own precognition research after statisticians were hired to review the work and declare it statistically reliable.

When statistics keep speaking to the existence of a phenomenon, that should be enough proof, Mossbridge says, but she recalls a physicist doubting her experiment results because he believed in linear time. Mossbridge’s research has shown that most people are capable of some level of precognition. She thinks that more would actually be aware of this ability—which is often looked at by society as delusional—if it was considered more mainstream.

Still, other cultures view precognition differently. Radin has studied Tibetan oracles who anticipated the future, for instance. He realized that clairvoyance, more scientifically known as “remote viewing,” is the ability to see not only through time, but also space. Thousands of years ago, eons before there would be news updates and weather forecasts, shamans who were able to perceive the future through time and space would be able to predict whether it would rain or where their enemies were advancing from. Some cultures use psychoactive substances such as morning glories or ayahuasca to awaken the second sight or “third eye.”
 
Fluffy got the main parts of the article. It ends with:

Precognition could be explained as a form of quantum entanglement, Radin says. Particles that are entangled are supposed to share the same information and behave the same way, even from far away, which is what Einstein called “spooky action at a distance.” Radin thinks this theory might explain why we can remember things that have not happened yet.

“Some people hypothesize that precognition is your brain entangled with itself in the future, because entanglement is not only things separated in space, but also separated in time,” he explains. “If it can be entangled with itself in the future, in the present you’d be feeling something like a memory that is going to happen in the future.”

If time is not so linear and consciousness can enter an invisible portal to the future, it might explain the feeling of déja vû. Regardless, the phenomenon of precognition is backed by statistics—it’s just a matter of proving what the mechanism could be, Mossbridge says.
 
Have any of you awoken before your alarm goes off?

Happens a lot to me. But I always put it down to my "internal clock" rather than precognition. Basically, when I set the alarm, I'm doing more than just setting the alarm, I'm also consciously setting an intention to wake up at that time the next morning, and maybe thinking about it being important to do so.

So it doesn't seem strange to me that some part of the my brain or consciousness sets that as as reminder and is somehow keeping track of time and wakes me up around that time. It's a bit weird (or maybe impressive) that it would always do it before the alarm goes off though, which has always been the case.
 
What I find interesting about the phenomenon is that our body is responding physiologically to conscious intentions we set. What is the limit to this, or is there one once you consider the peak developmental level of variable physicality? There's yogis who can control their own vagus nerve and slow their hearts down to a couple of beats per minute. Can you tell your body to switch off the inflammation going on in your brain from eating crap? What about telling your vagus nerve to start firing more or turn off your HPA axis release of cortisol?
 
Oh my, yes! Lately I've noticed myself waking just before my alarm that I wonder if I should even use it. But I wouldn't chance it. And sometimes in the afternoon or evening I'll set a manual timer for 15 or 20 minutes and sit and rest with my eyes closed. And I notice then that I think to myself, "It's about time.", and a few seconds later it will go off.

But then any other time during the day I have "time blindness" and cannot accurately predict the time it takes to do things. I also sometimes set an intention, when I have little time for sleep, that I'll be awake and aware when I wake up. I put it between POTS lines before falling to sleep. And it seems to work the next morning.

Can you tell your body to switch off the inflammation going on in your brain from eating crap? What about telling your vagus nerve to start firing more or turn off your HPA axis release of cortisol?
That's interesting. I could think of a few things along those lines. Maybe time to practice intentions between POTS and similar meditations?
 
It happens to me too, and it's a little irritating.

I look at my alarm clock and there are five minutes left, for example.

Should I get up or keep going until the alarm goes off? I think to myself.:-)

On the other hand, I've discovered that if, for example, I only have three or four hours to sleep because I have things to do, then I ask my subconscious to make those few hours feel like I could have slept many more hours.

And it happens.

I wake up as if I've slept a lot.
 
What I find interesting about the phenomenon is that our body is responding physiologically to conscious intentions we set. What is the limit to this, or is there one once you consider the peak developmental level of variable physicality? There's yogis who can control their own vagus nerve and slow their hearts down to a couple of beats per minute. Can you tell your body to switch off the inflammation going on in your brain from eating crap? What about telling your vagus nerve to start firing more or turn off your HPA axis release of cortisol?
Wim Hof mastered the art to some degree.

I participated in his course in 2021 and took a dive into his story.
His breathing technique at its basic level that we were taught in the course did all kinds of weird things to my body, the two most notable was inducing a euphoria that lasted for hours and painless cramping of wrists and hands that I had no control over.

Doing prolonged cold therapy made me feel superhuman. Sadly I didn’t stick with it long enough, or frequently enough to get the full benefits, though in a few weeks I was able to hold my breath for over 3 minutes, what’s rush!

He developed his technique after his wife committed suicide and left him alone with 4 children. He learned deep activation of the nervous system to relieve stress learning to alkalise the body through breathing, meditation and cold therapy, he achieved results that broke the rules previously thought by science.

Here’s a brief AI overview

The Wim Hof endotoxin study, conducted in 2014 at Radboud University, showed that trained practitioners of the Wim Hof Method could voluntarily influence their innate immune response to an endotoxin injection. The study found that a group trained in the method for four days exhibited reduced flu-like symptoms and suppressed inflammatory response compared to a control group. This effect was linked to the training group's ability to voluntarily increase adrenaline, which then triggered the release of anti-inflammatory cytokines like interleukin-10.

Study details
  • Participants:
    A group was trained in the Wim Hof Method (breathing, cold exposure, and meditation) over four days, alongside a control group that was not trained.

  • Injection:
    Both groups were injected with an endotoxin, a substance that typically triggers a strong inflammatory response.
    • The trained group showed a significantly dampened innate immune response compared to the control group.

    • Participants in the trained group experienced fewer flu-like symptoms.

    • The study found the trained group was able to voluntarily increase adrenaline, which led to an increase in the anti-inflammatory cytokine interleukin-10.
Significance
  • Overturned a scientific belief:
    The study provided evidence that humans can consciously influence their autonomic nervous system and immune response, which was previously thought to be beyond voluntary control.

  • Potential for medical application:
    The findings suggest the Wim Hof Method could be a valuable tool for managing conditions where the immune system is overactive, such as sepsis.

Here’s an instruction video to his breathing method

And another of practicing his breathing method. I would do 5 rounds to get on cloud nine for hours, though I couldn’t use my hands for about 1/2 hour afterwards

 
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Time has expired for me to edit.. just wanted to add that may be it would be a good experiment to add conscious body/mind tuning/tweaking instructions to EE practices, or trying out Wim Hof method with specific intentions for what we want to achieve.
If anyone is interested in trying the Wim method you’ll see what I’m talking about when I say euphoria, it’s much like the feeling after EE though more intense, there’s a lot of breath holding in Wim method that really does something to the body. Definitely don’t have too much planned for a little while afterwards if you try it.
 
While I’m pounding the Wim Hof topic I thought I’d add this to the mixture…

While the Wim Hof Method doesn't directly cause psychic connections, its breathing exercises can lead to altered states of mind and heightened self-awareness that some people interpret as spiritual or psychic experiences. The practice can reduce stress, clear the mind, and create feelings of deep connection and well-being, which proponents describe as a "different reality" or spiritual awakening.

  • Altered states of consciousness:
    The deep breathing and breath-holding in the method can cause a temporary shift in brain activity, leading to feelings of euphoria, clarity, and a sense of being "out of body".

  • Mental and emotional release:
    The process can bring up and release stored emotions, which can feel profound and lead to a sense of freedom.

  • Enhanced self-awareness:
    By calming the nervous system and focusing on the breath, the method can make it easier to access deeper states of meditation and a greater sense of inner connection.

  • Spiritual interpretation:
    Some practitioners interpret these enhanced states of consciousness, emotional release, and self-awareness as a spiritual awakening or a connection to a higher power or universal energy.

  • Scientific perspective:
    While the subjective experience is powerful, scientific research on the method focuses on its measurable physiological and psychological effects, such as reduced inflammation, stress, and symptoms of depression.
 

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