Weird Behaviour from strangers?

[loreta]

I like to go to the city and see crowds of people walking, bumping to each other, robots walking, others less robots, etc. It is a very strange and interesting spectacle. Since I live in a village where I have a big space around me, because we are just 20 habitants or so, the city with many people is always a dynamic that give me something to study. The city where I go is relatively a small city but compare to my little village... is a world. Someone say that it is a cultural question, I agree. In Spain you can feel a certain humanity on the streets, specially my city where there is a lot of old seniors. So walking in between I feel a gentleness in me. I smile very often to strangers, I like to be surrender by strangers and movement and if they bump me I just understand that they are "in the moon". People are very stressed, I feel sorry for them. But my city is a calm city, as a driver I can feel the gentleness and good education of the others drivers. I know other cities where people seem, sometimes, very cold and disturbing. A big city like Barcelona is too much for me. There you have a multitude of people and you can feel aggressiveness, danger, etc. In Barcelona if someone is bumping you it can be a thief. So the difference between cities is there. In Montreal, where I lived there 30 years, the situation was worse: you can feel in the air madness, violence... So my reaction is different depending on when I am walking.

It is very important, I think, to be aware of where you are. And to be patient when walking on the streets and also alert. But it is not the same to live in America or to live in Spain, for example. And it is not the same to live in Barcelona or to live in Salamanca.

Also, if yourself are stressed you will see your surrounding under a stressful look. Maybe if you are stressed you will attired around you stressed people. If you are afraid you will see also your surroundings differently.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

I would notify the police. Does he ever ask men? If not, well there you go.

I'm not following your logic here. I think this advice is more than a bit rash, and that there is no way to determine this to be the best course of action based on the information given. And for all we know, perhaps only women work there, and he really has only ever bugged workers until now.

Actually, the thought of calling the police did cross my mind as I was leaving. But I dismissed it because I thought I was being too rash. I didn't have enough information, and for all I know he really could have been a mentally challenged person looking for a ride. I thought the fact that I told the girl that worked there to keep an eye out would be enough. She could decide to call the cops if he bugged more customers or something.

A few questions (to Deedlet):

Have any of the other employees ever actually given him a ride home? Is it possible he is actually simply mentally retarded/learning disabled + recently out of surgery?

Do you look anything at all like anybody else working there? Could a mentally disabled person actually have mistaken you as an 'employee' perhaps, even if only on his own preconceived notions, is what I'm wondering...

Well there are mostly girls working there. I've seen one or two guys, but majority are girls. I don't think I look like any of them, but.. who knows, maybe I did to him? I'm not sure if he is or isn't mentally challenged 100 %. But I observed within myself the fact that a few years ago, I would have taken him on his word that he was mentally challenged and hand surgery. But the me now, questioned everything he said. I guess you could say I'm a lot more pessimistic now than I was before, but I guess getting older does that to ya ;)

But I wonder - since you go here often, and somewhat know the employees, maybe there is more information to be had about the situation?

I haven't really gone back there since the incident occurred, because it kind of freaked me out.
But if I happen to go by there and see the manager, I'll ask her some more info. As it stands I really don't know anything more than what I explained and all your questions went through my mind after the fact.

 

[Nienna]

Actually, the thought of calling the police did cross my mind as I was leaving. But I dismissed it because I thought I was being too rash. I didn't have enough information, and for all I know he really could have been a mentally challenged person looking for a ride. I thought the fact that I told the girl that worked there to keep an eye out would be enough. She could decide to call the cops if he bugged more customers or something.

Deedlet, I would have done exactly the same thing you did - refuse. There are too many pathological people out there making up stories in order to get a woman alone to do whatever it is they want to do. And, he had too many pat answers to not do what you suggested he do to get a ride from someone else.

And the fact that he was only asking women is also something to consider. Yes, maybe he felt safer with women IF his story was true, but the cost of him actually lying and wanting something entirely different is much too high.

The way this world is going, you just don't take chances in a situation like this, period.

 

[monotonic]

I feel the same as Nienna, but maybe I was too rash. I think we all react depending on our own experience and knowledge with strangers, and some of us are more leery. My thoughts were, someone needs to check out this guy's story, and if he is really struggling mentally get him some help, and if at each encounter it is left up to someone else to report him or investigate, it may be too late before something happens. At the same time if I were in his shoes and had legitimate motivations I would feel like I deserved civil rights just like anyone else. But I would not only ask women.

Well there are mostly girls working there. I've seen one or two guys, but majority are girls. I don't think I look like any of them, but.. who knows, maybe I did to him?

This is only one possibility, another one is that he is a mentally struggling rapist. It doesn't seem to me there is enough information to do more than keep an eye out for danger.

 

[A.K.]

Thank you all for your kind & warm response.

Sorry it took me so long to post a reply as i hardly get a chance to logged onto the net.

I've check out the Cognitive Science board and there's a lot to digest so it may take a little time. But I'm with the fact that our hidden conscious far expanded beyond our field of normal conscious. Which Gonzo's no. 1 view best explained the situation happen to me. On days i would be very sensitive but on others i just heck care. :D And does those days being sensitive sort of allow me/others to have a sudden expanded normal conscious thus enabling us to "see" the movements of the crowd? Just for thought.......

As Jason (ocean59) & Paragon point out, i usually move with awareness letting others get their ways....unless I'm unaware(which i will get emotionally compromise thus able to work on clearing my ego). Normally i tend to walk where there are less crowds........still such situations happens.

As for the car, which fortunately i do not own one. i remember noticing these bunch of vehicles moving exactly at the same speed with almost exactly the same distance between them every now and then......freaky. And one more thing, have anyone notice the ratio of reverse parking vehicles has reached above 80 percent or more? I remembered the normal ratio is 40/60 on both ways.

NewOrleans made a good point. I made a choice to off the path as wouldn't want to get BUMP and waste my time & energy sorting the aftermath(especially with egoistic people) now would we? Talking about 'intimate zone', yes approximate about couple of years back, we sure get a lot of space in this city but after the immigration flood gates open, everywhere i go i see people. Maybe this sort experience created a contrast in my conscious thus I'm able to 'know' I'm not paranoid or crazy. ;)

With all these information, i can't help but make a connection to the programming where everyone is constantly being bombarded with....wifi, media, etc. Not to mention the constant glorification of the EGO self which majority people seems to love. What if and i mean what if all these is sort of categorizing or sorting out among those easily programmed or not. Someone must be collecting data from these(hope my imagination is not running amok). Lastly, i came to realize that what i been through 'seeing the movement of crowds' is like a higher conscious looking at the world around it and wondering how foolish they are(the way they do things). Compare to a much higher consciousness looking at me also wondering how foolish i am.

And oh......Deedlet you did the right thing. Following our gut instincts or heart is the sure way to get out of sticky situation. And there will be time where you know at that moment what you need to do. No doubts, No if's. To know without knowing. Guess it applied to all who follow their Heart!

Thank you for viewing. Have a pleasant moment.

 

[ocean59]

As Jason (ocean59) & Paragon point out, i usually move with awareness letting others get their ways....unless I'm unaware(which i will get emotionally compromise thus able to work on clearing my ego). Normally i tend to walk where there are less crowds........still such situations happens.

So, are you implying that these other people are deliberately interfering with you, despite your best attempts to avoid them?

As for the car, which fortunately i do not own one. i remember noticing these bunch of vehicles moving exactly at the same speed with almost exactly the same distance between them every now and then......freaky. And one more thing, have anyone notice the ratio of reverse parking vehicles has reached above 80 percent or more? I remembered the normal ratio is 40/60 on both ways.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Could you be more specific?

I made a choice to off the path as wouldn't want to get BUMP and waste my time & energy sorting the aftermath(especially with egoistic people) now would we?

Again, I'm not understanding you here...can you be more specific as to what this means?

Talking about 'intimate zone', yes approximate about couple of years back, we sure get a lot of space in this city but after the immigration flood gates open, everywhere i go i see people. Maybe this sort experience created a contrast in my conscious thus I'm able to 'know' I'm not paranoid or crazy. ;)

So, because of the recent immigration, people are bumping into you more often than ever before, and therefore you are not simply imagining it, not could there be any other possible explanation, therefore you are not crazy or paranoid? Am I understanding that correctly?

With all these information, i can't help but make a connection to the programming where everyone is constantly being bombarded with....wifi, media, etc.

What does this have to do with your inability to avoid walking into other people? I'm really not following here...

Not to mention the constant glorification of the EGO self which majority people seems to love. What if and i mean what if all these is sort of categorizing or sorting out among those easily programmed or not. Someone must be collecting data from these(hope my imagination is not running amok).

So, not only do you think this has nothing to do with you, or your behavior, but you think secret agents are secretly recording your reactions to this situation?? Really???!

Lastly, i came to realize that what i been through 'seeing the movement of crowds' is like a higher conscious looking at the world around it and wondering how foolish they are(the way they do things). Compare to a much higher consciousness looking at me also wondering how foolish i am.

Maybe you could simply begin to control your own 'consciousness' and simply do what it takes to avoid bumping into other people...It can be done...

And oh......Deedlet you did the right thing.

Which thing is that, specifically?

Following our gut instincts or heart is the sure way to get out of sticky situation.

Not necessarily, and this is where I think networking (and actually listening and applying the feedback offered) comes into play. If all we needed were our own gut instincts, there wouldn't be much need for a network, osit.

And there will be time where you know at that moment what you need to do. No doubts, No if's. To know without knowing. Guess it applied to all who follow their Heart!

Ummm....I respectfully disagree with this. To blindly trust instincts when the available knowledge suggest those instincts may be subjective, or even incorrect, may cause harm or impediment.

Thank you for viewing. Have a pleasant moment.

This forum is more about objective reality than seeking pleasant moments. There are plenty of other places that value 'pleasant moments' above what is actually occurring...

 

[anart]

The other day I went to the local cafe. I usually go to this cafe, so the girls that work there know me pretty well. [...] I had ordered my drink by then and was waiting for it to be made.

This is a bit off-topic, but I'm wondering what kinds of drinks you're getting at cafes, considering most of them have all sorts of chemicals/dairy/coffee in them? It sounds like you go there a lot, so I'm curious how that works if you're on the paleo diet?

 

[knowledge_of_self]

The other day I went to the local cafe. I usually go to this cafe, so the girls that work there know me pretty well. [...] I had ordered my drink by then and was waiting for it to be made.

This is a bit off-topic, but I'm wondering what kinds of drinks you're getting at cafes, considering most of them have all sorts of chemicals/dairy/coffee in them? It sounds like you go there a lot, so I'm curious how that works if you're on the paleo diet?

I mostly get ice-water in the summer, cause they give it out for free. And Earl Grey tea, hot :P no sugar, no milk. Once in a great while I do drink coffee but I don't put sugar in it, I carry around xylitol packs in the car now so I just put a little of that in there.

 

[A.K.]

As Jason (ocean59) & Paragon point out, i usually move with awareness letting others get their ways....unless I'm unaware(which i will get emotionally compromise thus able to work on clearing my ego). Normally i tend to walk where there are less crowds........still such situations happens.

So, are you implying that these other people are deliberately interfering with you, despite your best attempts to avoid them?

As for the car, which fortunately i do not own one. i remember noticing these bunch of vehicles moving exactly at the same speed with almost exactly the same distance between them every now and then......freaky. And one more thing, have anyone notice the ratio of reverse parking vehicles has reached above 80 percent or more? I remembered the normal ratio is 40/60 on both ways.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Could you be more specific?

I made a choice to off the path as wouldn't want to get BUMP and waste my time & energy sorting the aftermath(especially with egoistic people) now would we?

Again, I'm not understanding you here...can you be more specific as to what this means?

Talking about 'intimate zone', yes approximate about couple of years back, we sure get a lot of space in this city but after the immigration flood gates open, everywhere i go i see people. Maybe this sort experience created a contrast in my conscious thus I'm able to 'know' I'm not paranoid or crazy. ;)

So, because of the recent immigration, people are bumping into you more often than ever before, and therefore you are not simply imagining it, not could there be any other possible explanation, therefore you are not crazy or paranoid? Am I understanding that correctly?

With all these information, i can't help but make a connection to the programming where everyone is constantly being bombarded with....wifi, media, etc.

What does this have to do with your inability to avoid walking into other people? I'm really not following here...

Not to mention the constant glorification of the EGO self which majority people seems to love. What if and i mean what if all these is sort of categorizing or sorting out among those easily programmed or not. Someone must be collecting data from these(hope my imagination is not running amok).

So, not only do you think this has nothing to do with you, or your behavior, but you think secret agents are secretly recording your reactions to this situation?? Really???!

Lastly, i came to realize that what i been through 'seeing the movement of crowds' is like a higher conscious looking at the world around it and wondering how foolish they are(the way they do things). Compare to a much higher consciousness looking at me also wondering how foolish i am.

Maybe you could simply begin to control your own 'consciousness' and simply do what it takes to avoid bumping into other people...It can be done...

And oh......Deedlet you did the right thing.

Which thing is that, specifically?

Following our gut instincts or heart is the sure way to get out of sticky situation.

Not necessarily, and this is where I think networking (and actually listening and applying the feedback offered) comes into play. If all we needed were our own gut instincts, there wouldn't be much need for a network, osit.

And there will be time where you know at that moment what you need to do. No doubts, No if's. To know without knowing. Guess it applied to all who follow their Heart!

Ummm....I respectfully disagree with this. To blindly trust instincts when the available knowledge suggest those instincts may be subjective, or even incorrect, may cause harm or impediment.

Thank you for viewing. Have a pleasant moment.

This forum is more about objective reality than seeking pleasant moments. There are plenty of other places that value 'pleasant moments' above what is actually occurring...

Do not fret about it. I'm just sharing what I've observed for a while and find this fascinating. People walking near me as if I'm a magnet or something even to my best efforts to avoid them. And it's been on my mind so I've just take this opportunity to post this in the 'What's on your mind thread'. Hopefully that this is not solely experienced by me & my Bro. Well it maybe from our cognitive minds or something else. Just waving my finger but not pointing at someone/something. Another thought which I've observe is these incidents happens mostly on days where i feel emotional compromise or just plain shitty.

Anyway I'm not seeking pleasant moments just being friendly. As this world is too serious, cause by serious people and look where it got us. Almost all the virtues is gone. By the way we're not members/or believers of the galactic federation of light causing trouble here. Just normal guy doing zen stuff with objective thrown in. Maybe it has to do with my being more & more sensitive nowadays.

 

[truth seeker]

Do not fret about it. I'm just sharing what I've observed for a while and find this fascinating. People walking near me as if I'm a magnet or something even to my best efforts to avoid them. And it's been on my mind so I've just take this opportunity to post this in the 'What's on your mind thread'. Hopefully that this is not solely experienced by me & my Bro. Well it maybe from our cognitive minds or something else. Just waving my finger but not pointing at someone/something. Another thought which I've observe is these incidents happens mostly on days where i feel emotional compromise or just plain shitty.

For what it's worth, I think the part in bold comes pretty close. I've experienced this and would say that the issue may be twofold - one you're noticing the general mechanicalness of others. Two, and I think this is the larger part of it, others are picking up on your own energy/stress level. When I'm feeling stressed, anxious or rushed, these types of interactions with others can tend to increase.

What I would suggest is to not focus on what others are doing/not doing but rather to look inside yourself and be aware of what you may be doing or not doing to feed into this. Think about how you are feeling about yourself and others and redirect your thoughts. If all of life is lessons and a reflection of our own inner landscape, then these interactions may be a mirror - your life trying to tell you something about yourself.

If you haven't already, you may be interested in doing a search for the redirect thread on the forum. Our thoughts definitely influence our actions. For what it's worth.

 

[Gonzo]

Do not fret about it. I'm just sharing what I've observed for a while and find this fascinating. People walking near me as if I'm a magnet or something even to my best efforts to avoid them. And it's been on my mind so I've just take this opportunity to post this in the 'What's on your mind thread'. Hopefully that this is not solely experienced by me & my Bro. Well it maybe from our cognitive minds or something else. Just waving my finger but not pointing at someone/something. Another thought which I've observe is these incidents happens mostly on days where i feel emotional compromise or just plain shitty.

For what it's worth, I think the part in bold comes pretty close. I've experienced this and would say that the issue may be twofold - one you're noticing the general mechanicalness of others. Two, and I think this is the larger part of it, others are picking up on your own energy/stress level. When I'm feeling stressed, anxious or rushed, these types of interactions with others can tend to increase.

What I would suggest is to not focus on what others are doing/not doing but rather to look inside yourself and be aware of what you may be doing or not doing to feed into this. Think about how you are feeling about yourself and others and redirect your thoughts. If all of life is lessons and a reflection of our own inner landscape, then these interactions may be a mirror - your life trying to tell you something about yourself.

If you haven't already, you may be interested in doing a search for the redirect thread on the forum. Our thoughts definitely influence our actions. For what it's worth.

Yeah, agree. I will certainly try to take inventory the next time it occurs in my world.

Another thing to consider... One thing a friend recently brought up when I mentioned this phenomenon, was the moon phases. There may be a pattern to such occurenc es and, although not necessarily related to lunar/gravitational or electrical effect, there could be all sorts of regular real world cycles influencing such things and we simply never made the connection.

Either way, when such things occur, we should consider it as a form of feedback and see what we can learn from it.

Gonzo

 

[A.K.]

For what it's worth, I think the part in bold comes pretty close. I've experienced this and would say that the issue may be twofold - one you're noticing the general mechanicalness of others. Two, and I think this is the larger part of it, others are picking up on your own energy/stress level. When I'm feeling stressed, anxious or rushed, these types of interactions with others can tend to increase.

What I would suggest is to not focus on what others are doing/not doing but rather to look inside yourself and be aware of what you may be doing or not doing to feed into this. Think about how you are feeling about yourself and others and redirect your thoughts. If all of life is lessons and a reflection of our own inner landscape, then these interactions may be a mirror - your life trying to tell you something about yourself.

If you haven't already, you may be interested in doing a search for the redirect thread on the forum. Our thoughts definitely influence our actions. For what it's worth.

Your're right Truthseeker, there's no way we can see the whole picture as we're part of the dot until we can see this dot of ours from a distance. Until then all dots will also come into view and the picture will formulate but then that picture may still be a puzzle piece of a real picture.Only way is to master ourselves to the point of not only knowing we're a dot but we're part of a puzzle piece and that piece fits the true picture.

Yeah, agree. I will certainly try to take inventory the next time it occurs in my world.

Another thing to consider... One thing a friend recently brought up when I mentioned this phenomenon, was the moon phases. There may be a pattern to such occurenc es and, although not necessarily related to lunar/gravitational or electrical effect, there could be all sorts of regular real world cycles influencing such things and we simply never made the connection.

Either way, when such things occur, we should consider it as a form of feedback and see what we can learn from it.

The moon phases never crosses my mind. Great tip Gonzo. Thanks!

 

[monotonic]

This is basically what I meant when I referred to "cosmic forces" earlier. In Electric Universe theory, is there any discussion about how one might identify alignments and electric currents among the planets and how these forces affect earth? I know SOTT did something like this to explain crazy winter weather a year or two ago.

 

[plaintiger]

Do not fret about it. I'm just sharing what I've observed for a while and find this fascinating. People walking near me as if I'm a magnet or something even to my best efforts to avoid them. And it's been on my mind so I've just take this opportunity to post this in the 'What's on your mind thread'. Hopefully that this is not solely experienced by me & my Bro. Well it maybe from our cognitive minds or something else. Just waving my finger but not pointing at someone/something. Another thought which I've observe is these incidents happens mostly on days where i feel emotional compromise or just plain shitty.

I have noticed something like this happening to me as well, A.K. It's been going on for quite some time too. I am really at a loss as to how to explain it, and I'm not even sure it's an important observation. Maybe it is, as others have said, just part of having a wider awareness than others walking on the street. Most often, it happens for me like this: I'll be walking behind someone on the sidewalk and since I walk a bit faster than most, I'll veer to the side of them to pass by them. Just about at the same time I start to do this, the person in front of me will veer off in the same direction, causing me to take an even wider berth around them if there's room, swerve entirely to the other side to pass them, or entirely stop short and then resume walking. While this can be slightly annoying, like I said, it does happen often enough, so I've made a mental note of a couple variables that may be influencing this activity. Perhaps,

• the person is distracted, using a bluetooth or wearing headphones
• I'm walking too silently and quickly for people to notice me coming up on them

Now, I can't always tell if the other person has buds in their ears or what not, so I don't think I'll be able to know that in every instance, but from knowing this could be true, it's important for me to at least acknowledge to myself that the other person may not be paying so much attention to their surroundings, so I need to rely on myself to be the aware one. Which is excellent advice for walking out on the city streets, at any rate. But because I do generally walk faster than others, and with near to silent footfalls (I like to tread lightly), in order to be more externally considerate, when I'm still some distance away, I will let my shoes plod slightly, scrape the ground a bit, or I'll clear my throat or something so as not to startle the person, so that they know someone's approaching. And that will usually stop the "veering" from occurring.

Of course, none of this explains why this occurs! One thought that recurs to me when this happens, is how don Juan mentioned that our awareness surrounds us like a luminous egg. Could it be that as I get closer to another person's "personal space," that the luminosity of our eggs overlap, causing this magnetic-like attraction to occur from the slower-moving person? Pure conjecture. The other thing that comes to mind is I'll think of all us walking humans like planetary bodies, which have scientifically-observable reactions when passing another. Like the "comet" Venus entering the solar system and passing close to another body, both would be drawn in closer to each other before the comet passes the slower body.

I just thought I'd add my two cents because it's something I've experienced often enough -- though I'm not sure if anything I said helps clarify anything -- but at least now you know it's not just you, A.K.! It may just be "one of those things," and I can't say for certain, or at least without some conscious research, whether or not my emotional state has anything to do with these occurrences.

 

[Kreu]

One weird thing I've noticed recently is that when I'm walking behind someone, about to pass them, the person will sort of nervously look around and have a good look at me as if I've crept up on them or I sound like a big heavy man walking aggressively as I would if someone were following me at night. This has happend multiple times to the point that I'm actually starting to feel weird about it.
I should add that I never walk uncomfortably close to anyone (I like to keep my distance as much as possible), I'm a girl who wears shoes that make a distinct "click click" sound (so I shouldn't sound too meanacing IMO) and this is all in the middle of the day. Also, it's not just "vulnerable" people ( i e little old ladies for instance) who look around perturbed at me just casually passing them on the street but all kinds of people.
I just thought of this considering the topic, it really bugs me. I hope I'm not the "weird stranger", I'm acting perfectly normal! :/