What about the kids?

[Mr. Premise]

Infernal, you has received great advices! I think also that High Strangeness it is to much for they. But moreover I think that some deeper truths can be revealed through of little stories. I have 2 childrens, my little girl 9 year old and my boy 5 years old. Both are very curious about all. I try to make them feel blissful being inquisitive.
I read them every night a story since my girl had a bit more 1 year, and I have found that this is a great opportunity of make that they think over divers issues and ask about them.
I've seen the need of invent or adapt stories that I found for there. Sufi tales, oriental stories, and others. Through of this stories I could talk from indirect way about topic as cycles, be "ready" and not be "ready", psychopathic behavior, the life as a experience of learning, the truth and the lie, etc...

I hope that this will be of help :)

Yes, stories are a great starting point because they bring up lots of questions such as "Are monsters real, do ghosts exist? Stuff like that. Then you can say things to keep their minds open like "Some people have seen what they thought were ghosts, but no one has been hurt by them, maybe they're just like recordings of people who used to live," then ask them what they think. A gentle way to discuss high strangeness stuff.

 

[luke wilson]

I haven't got any kids so what I am about to say might mean zero.

When I was young, I remember some of my cousins telling me a lot of stories about the paranormal stuff, some of it was kind of woven into 'reality' but in a story form. I personally looked forward to it and whenever one of these cousins visited, I wouldn't leave them alone until they told me a story. To me stories worked best when we just sat down and they just started narrating something, not like reading from a book. It seemed way more interactive that way, like the connection between me and the person was the 'main thing' rather than the connection between me, the person and the book where the 'book' is the 'main focus'. At that age, I think human connections mean the most - at least it did for me.

So maybe that is an idea. Maybe you can introduce your kids to this other side of reality, or rather, the real reality as compared to the disney manufactured reality through story-telling. story-telling that is kind of interactive, where they can learn like morals and stuff like that and maybe even make up part of the story as they go along etc. Then maybe when they get older, like young adult old, then they can start learning about it in a more concrete way but by then there minds would be primed and ready to go. You never know, they could also thank you for it.

 

[Infernal]

Again thank you all for your wonderful advice. I feel it's truly a blessing to have this forum with so many enlightened people offering advice on my dilemma without judgement attached.
I have carefully all of your posts and taken it on board and will continue to do my 'work' to lead by example in effect.
When younger I was indoctrinated into Catholicism (no points for guessing why I'm not there anymore), my son has shown an interest in going to mass with his grandfather. I think I will allow it, as it's one road to begin questioning. But again I digress.
By the way, Luke Wilson, the fact you see my plight and thoughts nought to share your experience could NEVER mean zero be you a parent or not mate (Australian vernacular).

Thank you all again for your thoughts.

 

[msante]

Hi Infernal

Immerse your kids in nature as much as you can.....she is a wonderful teacher. Im sure that you will find many opportunities here. Keep it simple at this age and keep your kids close to you. Keep asking questions and look into alternative forms of schooling eg homeschooling.....Rudolph Steiner etc.

From French Marigold

I was thinking about this (bold text) and I'm not entirely agree with this. I think that can learn too much from the nature, but I don't think that the nature can be simply a teacher for one kid. One individual can to learn much from the nature but this require great capacity of observation, and this is possible with discipline and a level of knowledge appropriate more typical from adults. I don't say that the nature can't teach anything, I suggest instead that one kid need a guide, in special from his parents.
Through of affection and attention, a parent can to build one link with his sons and open one channel for they ask, explore, experience, and of course, learn. Immersing them in the nature I don't think that be enough.

Although I must to say that I may be misinterpreting your thoughts.

 

[Arwenn]

I agree with the suggestions that reading High Strangeness would be counter-productive to little children. The concept of hyper-dimensional beings farming us for food is very scary, even for adults!!

I think the best thing is to use allegory like tales, stories, fables that have a take home meaning-introduce them to the fact that not everyone is to be trusted or taken at face value (the whole thing about a 'Wolf in Sheep's clothing' etc.). As they grow up and their cognitive faculties develop, you can have deeper conversations and build their awareness of psychopaths, character disordered people, and the nature of our 3D reality on planet Earth.

FWIW

 

[Tracy Anne]

Hi Infernal

Immerse your kids in nature as much as you can.....she is a wonderful teacher. Im sure that you will find many opportunities here. Keep it simple at this age and keep your kids close to you. Keep asking questions and look into alternative forms of schooling eg homeschooling.....Rudolph Steiner etc.

From French Marigold

I was thinking about this (bold text) and I'm not entirely agree with this. I think that can learn too much from the nature, but I don't think that the nature can be simply a teacher for one kid. One individual can to learn much from the nature but this require great capacity of observation, and this is possible with discipline and a level of knowledge appropriate more typical from adults. I don't say that the nature can't teach anything, I suggest instead that one kid need a guide, in special from his parents.
Through of affection and attention, a parent can to build one link with his sons and open one channel for they ask, explore, experience, and of course, learn. Immersing them in the nature I don't think that be enough.

Although I must to say that I may be misinterpreting your thoughts.

Hi Msante

I was drawing from my own experience of growing up in nature on the sea and in native bush in New Zealand. Im now wondering how one can learn "too much" from nature. Your comment does puzzle me. Nature provides wonderful opportunities for parents and caregivers to teach children but there are many other avenues. Nature of course is not our only teacher and I hope that I was not conveying this.

As in Nature.......balance is important

French Marigold

 

[msante]

Hi Msante

I was drawing from my own experience of growing up in nature on the sea and in native bush in New Zealand. Im now wondering how one can learn "too much" from nature. Your comment does puzzle me. Nature provides wonderful opportunities for parents and caregivers to teach children but there are many other avenues. Nature of course is not our only teacher and I hope that I was not conveying this.

As in Nature.......balance is important

French Marigold

I am sorry, my english is not good. Where you read "too much" please read just "much". I was not clear in my comment.
I think there are a lot to learn from the nature. But I think a child need something more that simply make contact with the nature to learn significant lessons. Your comment ("Immerse your kids in nature as much as you can.....she is a wonderful teacher") sound to me as a bit "New Age" or al least Naif. I had the feeling that Infernal asked about put in contact his kids with scary topics related to "High Strangeness", and perhaps with others topic that are essentials for survive, learn, and grow.

 

[Tracy Anne]

Hi Msante

I was drawing from my own experience of growing up in nature on the sea and in native bush in New Zealand. Im now wondering how one can learn "too much" from nature. Your comment does puzzle me. Nature provides wonderful opportunities for parents and caregivers to teach children but there are many other avenues. Nature of course is not our only teacher and I hope that I was not conveying this.

As in Nature.......balance is important

French Marigold

I am sorry, my english is not good. Where you read "too much" please read just "much". I was not clear in my comment.
I think there are a lot to learn from the nature. But I think a child need something more that simply make contact with the nature to learn significant lessons. Your comment ("Immerse your kids in nature as much as you can.....she is a wonderful teacher") sound to me as a bit "New Age" or al least Naif. I had the feeling that Infernal asked about put in contact his kids with scary topics related to "High Strangeness", and perhaps with others topic that are essentials for survive, learn, and grow.

Hi masante

Thanks for explaining that English is not your first language. Yes you are right about Infernal wanting to know about how to protect his children from the not so nice people on our planet. It is a fascinating subject and very interesting to read others ideas.

Best wishes
French Marigold