What are you listening to?

[Beau]

Bon Iver - The Wolves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgXXf_VQT8&feature=relmfu

 

[loreta]

This song reminds me my "wild" years.... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2_DOIaChIM&feature=fvst

And this one too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ5jTAISutM

 

[Delrake]

Mos Def - Thieves Of the Night

(Mos's Verse)

Yo, I'm sure that everbody out listenin agree
That everything you see ain't really how it be
A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style
Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile
Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages and camoflauges
More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin
You confusin me, you losin me
Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass
Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past
Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship
Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old shit
Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
That they been runnin across stars through all the time with
I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between
We either niggaz or Kings
We either bitches or Queens
The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we is subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fam' recall my legacy
I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory
Like that yall

This verse is the way that people need to view the world and it's flaws... And then hopefully build from it.

 

[Meanderthal]

whilst house-sitting lately i re-acquainted with two tunes that strike more than a few chords in me in-sync with the cracking book of sott essays (far-reaching compact reads ideal during daily train travel!)... some part about octaves will take some time to dawn on me i gather ....warm spirited regards i send thee


~1 Love... Thy Will Be Done - Martika

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmUzy-bbgoo


Love, thy will be done
I can no longer hide
I can no longer run
No longer can I resist your guiding light
That gives me the power to keep up the fight
No longer love...thy will be done
Since I have found you my life has just begun
And I see all of your creations as one perfect complex
No one less beautiful or more special than the next
We are all blessed and so wise to accept
Thy will love be done

Love, thy will be mine
And make me strive for the glorious and divine
I could not be no more satisfied (satisfied...)
Even when there's no peace outside my window there's peace
Inside and that's why I no longer run (No longer...)
Love thy will be done

Love, thy will be done
I can no longer hide
I can no longer run (no longer...)
Love, thy will be done
Thy will love be done

Oooh, no longer can I resist (no..) the guiding light (guiding light)
The light that gives me the power to keep up the fight
I couldn't be more satisfied (no...)
Even when there's no peace outside my window there is peace inside
And that's why I can no longer run
Love thy will be done (thy will be done, love, love thy will be done...)

Love, thy will be done
I can no longer hide
I can no longer run
Love, thy will be done
Thy will love be done

Love, thy will be done
I can no longer hide
I can no longer run (no, no, no)
Love, thy will be done
Thy will love be done...
Thy will love be done...
Thy will love be done


~2 Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq2WJ2r0NkM


Why are you in so much hurry?
Is it really worth the worry?
Look around, then slow down.
What's it like inside the bubble?
Does your head ever give you trouble?
It's no sin, trade it in.

Hang on, help is on its way,
I'll be there as fast as I can,
"Hang on", a tiny voice did say,
From somewhere deep inside the inner man.

Are you always in confusion?
Surrounded by illusion?
Sort it out, you'll make out.
Seem to make a good beginning,
Someone else ends up winning,
Don't seem fair, don't you care?

Don't you forget who'll take care of you,
It don't matter what you do,
Form a duet, let him sing melody, you'll provide the harmony.

 

[Knobbingham]

Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you

:O

Nick Javas - 2012

At the moment I look up and ask the flight attendant for some help
I see a lady watching that movie "2012"
And I ain't really up for moving down to hell
But what if they say the truth I wonder this myself
Then maybe I should hit the mall tonight
If I'm gonna fall I might as well go 'head and ball right
Let the world know that I ain't lackin' in fashion
Before it hit the fan and get the opposite of pageant
Whatever happened to life everlasting?
Mayan calender got everybody talking madness
Just imagine hearing thunder crash down while the
Waves smash towns, stop and picture that now
And then the power blacks out,
And the twister rolls in and the kitchen folds in
And then the earth shakes erasin' your birth place
But noone's gonna miss it as if it never existed
Because nobody's gonna be here
The thought alone will make your heart beat fear
Creeps near the lungs which now seek air
Because they both been crushed beyond repair
'Cause the sky is falling, you're in the eye of the storm and
There's nothing you can do but just lie dormant
And die calling out to anyone around
But nobody gonna hear you when there's steadily the sound that
Keeps drowning you out. But what is it you hear?
Seeming like the cruelest form of punishment is near
That's the world as you know it saying goodbye
As it disintegrates into the sky
With all of your possessions, what is it all worth?
They don't take Black Cards at the black hole earth
If you could go back just to make it last
You'd probably appreciate every moment as it passed
So maybe you should live rather than exist
Future still a mystery, the present is a gift
So I'm living for the moment, here's your invitation
Come and join me if you got a minute vacant

 

[truth seeker]

Mos Def - Thieves Of the Night

Hey Delrake,

Just so you're aware, some of the language in those lyrics are insulting to all people, not just persons of color and women. It would be appreciated if you take more care with what you post from now on.

 

[Knobbingham]

Mos Def - Thieves Of the Night

Hey Delrake,

Just so you're aware, some of the language in those lyrics are insulting to all people, not just persons of color and women. It would be appreciated if you take more care with what you post from now on.

In my response in the 'Songs for Psychopaths'-thread, I also have song lyrics of a similar sort posted. I have censored the major part of the explicits. Would that be an acceptable format?

 

[Knobbingham]

Taken from the Forum Guidelines:

"Four: We have ZERO tolerance for profanity. If you aren't intelligent enough to say what you think without using language that is objectionable to most civilized people, you're on the wrong board. If you think you can be clever and circumvent the board's auto-censor, go ahead and try it. When we catch you, you'll be gone."

 

[truth seeker]

Mos Def - Thieves Of the Night

Hey Delrake,

Just so you're aware, some of the language in those lyrics are insulting to all people, not just persons of color and women. It would be appreciated if you take more care with what you post from now on.

In my response in the 'Songs for Psychopaths'-thread, I also have song lyrics of a similar sort posted. I have censored the major part of the explicits. Would that be an acceptable format?

I'm assuming it's this one? I'd say no. I see you've found the guidelines which is good. What I don't really get is why anyone finds anything interesting that includes such harsh language but the usage of the 'b' and 'n' words specifically. I'm genuinely curious, is it possible for you to explain?

 

[Knobbingham]

I'd say no. I see you've found the guidelines which is good. What I don't really get is why anyone finds anything interesting that includes such harsh language but the usage of the 'b' and 'n' words specifically. I'm genuinely curious, is it possible for you to explain?

Respectfully, I don't see why anyone eats cheese. To me, it's just a chunk of mold.

I'll try to explain as well as I can. What we are breaking in is the topic of verbal violence; an undisputed aspect of microphone controlling, also known as emceeing within the culture. The earliest rappers would compete against one another, and the worst insults were an easy way to gather crowd support. Simply, it provokes a reaction much like yours. These insults were a part of life within the impoverished Bronx borrough of New York during the late 70s and 80s and still is, I imagine. Hip hop culture as such, through the medium of singing and dancing was a way for the people to engage in a creative, non-physical confrontation in a daily life where a petty dispute could result in your getting shot. As the phenomenon of MC'ing spread and more groups were formed, they would soon compete against each other. You could call it verbal arguments accompanied by music but battle rap is the proper term.

In reality, cursing has very little to do with the musical side. It's the context in which they are used that generate the meaning. It is bound to come across as de-sensitized, but keep in mind that most (myself included) grew up hearing all this in casual day-to-day conversation, argument between family members and so fourth. Someone raised in a less-than-optimal environment does not think much of using them casually. This is interpreted as inheritly 'lower class' by some. Children released on the internet today learn a lot of new words. Just today I heard a young kid on a bike shout "OH MY ******* GOD" in English, annoyed as he rode through heavy rain. This made me think. I know for a fact that he didn't learn that at home, because I live in Scandinavia. Call it corrupt communication. When people answer "Everything except rap music!" they often give the reason, that it's because of the curses. This is why I ask to the specifics of proper forum conduct out of genuine interest. I could care less about who's a fan of hip hop and who isn't.

I can't afford to get banned over lyrics. To me, that's what's really ignorant.

 

[truth seeker]

I'll try to explain as well as I can. What we are breaking in is the topic of verbal violence; an undisputed aspect of microphone controlling, also known as emceeing within the culture. The earliest rappers would compete against one another, and the worst insults were an easy way to gather crowd support. Simply, it provokes a reaction much like yours. These insults were a part of life within the impoverished Bronx borrough of New York during the late 70s and 80s and still is, I imagine. Hip hop culture as such, through the medium of singing and dancing was a way for the people to engage in a creative, non-physical confrontation in a daily life where a petty dispute could result in your getting shot. As the phenomenon of MC'ing spread and more groups were formed, they would soon compete against each other. You could call it verbal arguments accompanied by music but battle rap is the proper term.

Thanks for explaining. :)

What ever happened to playing the dozens? :D I suppose it started there and developed into rap/emceeing...

Just to be clear, I'm not having a 'reaction'. I was just wondering what your personal interest was in any music, rap or otherwise, that had such lyrics in them. Just so you know, not all people from NY (or anywhere else in the States) who grew up in impoverished circumstances condone taking back the word. The majority of the people I've ever known don't.

In reality, cursing has very little to do with the musical side. It's the context in which they are used that generate the meaning. It is bound to come across as de-sensitized, but keep in mind that most (myself included) grew up hearing all this in casual day-to-day conversation, argument between family members and so fourth. Someone raised in a less-than-optimal environment does not think much of using them casually. This is interpreted as inheritly 'lower class' by some. Children released on the internet today learn a lot of new words. Just today I heard a young kid on a bike shout "OH MY ******* GOD" in English, annoyed as he rode through heavy rain. This made me think. I know for a fact that he didn't learn that at home, because I live in Scandinavia. Call it corrupt communication. When people answer "Everything except rap music!" they often give the reason, that it's because of the curses. This is why I ask to the specifics of proper forum conduct out of genuine interest. I could care less about who's a fan of hip hop and who isn't.

I can't afford to get banned over lyrics. To me, that's what's really ignorant.

Relax, no one's upset with you or going to ban you. As I said, I'm just interested as to what your take is.

I was thinking more about this after I posted and agree that such language has unfortunately become normalized. What's even sadder, is that this normalization has spread around the world and I 'think' that many people don't realize how it (the language not the music itself) gradually dehumanizes both those listening to it as well as those performing it.

I'll be honest, rap/hip hop in it's current state doesn't really appeal to me but neither does a lot of things these days. I think the older stuff, before it became ponerized (taken over by psychopaths), is better although there are exceptions to every rule. That said, I'll defend someone's right to listen to it as long as it isn't hurting anyone.

 

[anart]

I can't afford to get banned over lyrics. To me, that's what's really ignorant.

You need to calm down and remember the purpose of this forum. If you're unhappy with the forum guidelines, feel free to find a forum with less stringent guidelines.

 

[Knobbingham]

I can't afford to get banned over lyrics. To me, that's what's really ignorant.

You need to calm down and remember the purpose of this forum. If you're unhappy with the forum guidelines, feel free to find a forum with less stringent guidelines.

Okay.

Thanks for explaining. :)

What ever happened to playing the dozens? :D I suppose it started there and developed into rap/emceeing...

Nice. Thanks for that inspiring reply.

The music industry has has been branding this music for a long time now, somewhere starting with the period of the early 90s and up to now. The dehumanization (especially the way that girls are shown in rap videos) is more or less complete. Today's most popular 'rap' idols, whose names deserve no praise do not represent the culture of hip hop, so I make a point of distinguishing between the two. Psychopaths among them, sure. But the more dangerous ones are the record label execs.

If I were to call my mother the b-word back in the days, there would have been consequences! And the n-word isn't very relevant to me. It seems that if you try to ban some things, they become all the more interesting to explore. Some even claim that the 'Parental Advisory - Explicit Lyrics' disclaimer stamp sold a lot of albums.

Also worth noting is that a lot of English four-letter words have seeped into the everyday use of other languages. English is a powerful language and some grow to see why!

 

[Delrake]

Hey my bad on the improper words in the lyrics. I forgot about the forum's guidelines but I will definetly keep them in mind from now on. Mos Def is just a great poet in my opinion and I wanted to share the messege of his verse in that song with you guys and girls. Also yeah I do agree with the fact that the rap part of the music industry is more or less going down the toilet. Again my bad on the improper lyrics.

 

[Ca.]

Absolute Beginners-David Bowie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNp-AiDz-bE&feature=related
I'll Fly Away- Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VAwv3qCVkA&feature=related
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