What does it matter . Who does It matter too?

[God-Like]

For myself I am all for being a lightworker and fighting for justice etc , It matters to me at times that divine justice Is carried out against all those that cause sufferings for example.

It is not nature what gives them free will to do so, and nature what gives every single being free will to grow, understand and be too?
And, is not nature full of justice even if it does not seems so, to the eyes of men?
If so, how do you think you can help?

When one then transcends mind-sets what once matters to the Individual may longer hold any sustenance .

So what really matters .

Does Truth matter? To whom does It matter to? The personality? The soul? The spirit? Dazzle?

x daz x

Maybe for those questions to be answered more "mind-sets" need to be "trascended".

Hi Ana .

At times I have become conscious of my astral activities that Include being a part of a soul group that partakes In Interacting with negative energies . It can vary to Individual spirits to transforming negative emotions from war torn countries .

This Is only one aspect of what seemingly matters to me . I am not conscious of this work/service that I do most of the time so another aspect of my self It matters not too .

Over the past 20 years I have drawn many energies to me from the astral/spirit realms where Injustice has seemingly consumed their mind . I read from the C's material about a man called morris Jessup (ufo researcher who died suspiciously) well I had to research this man only a few weeks ago because this unknown to me (at the time) Individual came to mind .

I wasn't that surprised when I saw his name appear In the texts on this site but does the bigger suggest that an Injustice has occured .

Perhaps morris jessup on some level will say yes . Perhaps morris jessup on some level will say no bot what Is apparent Is that the mind needs resolvement .

It seems that my light draws to me Individuals that need resolvement . At times I would say It's more about releasing one from the mind sets that one Is chained too .

x daz x

 

[God-Like]

Allthought I'm not really sure to have well understood what your point is, I take the risk to suggest you to read this master piece if you don't already did it

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stalking.htm

It might enlarge your perspective on this matter :)

and sorry in advance if I'm out of tracks here

Hi Maat .

I will take a look at the link thanks .

My thoughts are In a way linked to our attachments to what Is Important to us as Individuals .

For myself I am all for being a lightworker and fighting for justice etc , It matters to me at times that divine justice Is carried out against all those that cause sufferings for example .

When one then transcends mind-sets what once matters to the Individual may longer hold any sustenance .

So what really matters .

Does Truth matter? To whom does It matter to? The personality? The soul? The spirit? Dazzle?

x daz x

For what it's worth, I remember having a very similar "dilemma", or inner wondering.

I am not speaking as a person who's taken the Cass material any further than a beginner. This is more from my personal experience of growth and development which happens to resonate with some of the Cass material.

Growth and development has been the achievement of greater and greater objectivity. Have you encountered the term "interpersonal boundaries"? In a nutshell, "boundaries" draw the line between myself and what exists outside and completely separate from this little "self".

A very important part of this is separating out "how life really IS" (objectivity) and "what I wish/want/think I deserve/think would be best yadda yadda yadda".

Did I hit anywhere close to home Dazzle ? :D

Hi Briseis .

I resonate with your thoughts especially to what I text I have bolded .

Certain realizations and mind sets experienced can alter one's perception In regards to whom or what we are that Is experiencing them . Now If one Integrates that mindful experience within everyday life that's full of dramas and such likes one has to ask perhaps does any of this matter or not and to whom does It or doesn't matter too .

My life's purpose matters to me only while daz exists .

x daz x

 

[ana]

Hi Ana .

At times I have become conscious of my astral activities that Include being a part of a soul group that partakes In Interacting with negative energies . It can vary to Individual spirits to transforming negative emotions from war torn countries .

This Is only one aspect of what seemingly matters to me . I am not conscious of this work/service that I do most of the time so another aspect of my self It matters not too .

Over the past 20 years I have drawn many energies to me from the astral/spirit realms where Injustice has seemingly consumed their mind . I read from the C's material about a man called morris Jessup (ufo researcher who died suspiciously) well I had to research this man only a few weeks ago because this unknown to me (at the time) Individual came to mind .

I wasn't that surprised when I saw his name appear In the texts on this site but does the bigger suggest that an Injustice has occured .

Perhaps morris jessup on some level will say yes . Perhaps morris jessup on some level will say no bot what Is apparent Is that the mind needs resolvement .

It seems that my light draws to me Individuals that need resolvement . At times I would say It's more about releasing one from the mind sets that one Is chained too .

x daz x

The above is pretty vague God-Like.
You may want to concentrate on the suggested reading as 1984 recommended, so you can gain some knowledge and perspective of this forum.

 

[truth seeker]

Thanks for your advice 1984 .

And point taken . I understand that If someone joins a bible class for example then one must read the bible (lol) .

What has unfolded for me over the last 20 years hasn't come about because of reading transcripts but I do smile wholeheartedly when what has arisen within resonates with material that Is very similar to the C's.

I have a friend In our development circle that Is extremely Intellectual . The problem being for him Is that when spirit give him Information there Is conflict within him because he cannot decipher what Is from spirit and what Is stored In his mind thats from his own mass of conceptual data .

More than likely your friend is unable to practice discernment because he doesn't have enough of a knowledge base from which to pull from.

I try not to fill my head with too much of anything In order to allow what's within come to the fore and then evaluate whatever that may be when I drawn to such Information be It the C's, ascended masters, or whoever .

Can you see how that works for me .

I'm not so sure this is working for you or else you wouldn't have joined this forum but instead would have started one of your own to teach others what you think you've learned.

In addition, while you think this works for you, aren't there others to consider - such as the members of this forum? When entering someone's house, do you not think it's appropriate to see how their house is run so that harmony is kept? Or do you attempt to set up the house according to your own requirements?

By jumping into posting with little understanding of concepts discussed on this forum, you place the responsibility for your learning onto others instead of taking it upon yourself. Not a good formula for life in general, I think, as it leaves one vulnerable to their own predator and takes energy from others.

 

[God-Like]

Thanks for your advice 1984 .

And point taken . I understand that If someone joins a bible class for example then one must read the bible (lol) .

What has unfolded for me over the last 20 years hasn't come about because of reading transcripts but I do smile wholeheartedly when what has arisen within resonates with material that Is very similar to the C's.

I have a friend In our development circle that Is extremely Intellectual . The problem being for him Is that when spirit give him Information there Is conflict within him because he cannot decipher what Is from spirit and what Is stored In his mind thats from his own mass of conceptual data .

More than likely your friend is unable to practice discernment because he doesn't have enough of a knowledge base from which to pull from.

I try not to fill my head with too much of anything In order to allow what's within come to the fore and then evaluate whatever that may be when I drawn to such Information be It the C's, ascended masters, or whoever .

Can you see how that works for me .

I'm not so sure this is working for you or else you wouldn't have joined this forum but instead would have started one of your own to teach others what you think you've learned.

In addition, while you think this works for you, aren't there others to consider - such as the members of this forum? When entering someone's house, do you not think it's appropriate to see how their house is run so that harmony is kept? Or do you attempt to set up the house according to your own requirements?

By jumping into posting with little understanding of concepts discussed on this forum, you place the responsibility for your learning onto others instead of taking it upon yourself. Not a good formula for life in general, I think, as it leaves one vulnerable to their own predator and takes energy from others.

Hi Truth seeker .

The C's mention that this forum exists partly In order for Individual expressions to be made . I am not telling anyone how It Is or how It should be . I am simply In expression of that Individuality whilst having entertained many mind states . My questions raised are for those that reply to evaluate their answers made from what comes from within them .

I am trying to relate my own experiences / realizations had with Info that has been made via the C's that's why I have joined the forum . I resonate with much that I have read .

I am not entering someones house and disrespecting those that dwell there .

I am respectful of everyones beliefs and from what I have learnt via experience had Is that In regards to truths and such likes each Individual needs to Integrate what that Is within themselves for themselves .

The C's mention that certain answers they withhold because It Is Important for these knowings to come from within and not without . The journey made entails one to go through the process of not knowing to knowing, from not realizing to realizing .

I have an open mind to many teachings and I take on board what advice has been given thus far from the moderators here .

Perhaps It's best for me not to ask anymore questions on this forum . All I have done Is asked general questions respectfully In regards to light, knowings, existence, and Orion, ...etc ..

Being a newbie on this site doesn't mean I am a newbie to what Is . (lol)

x dazzle x

 

[truth seeker]

The C's mention that this forum exists partly In order for Individual expressions to be made . I am not telling anyone how It Is or how It should be . I am simply In expression of that Individuality whilst having entertained many mind states . My questions raised are for those that reply to evaluate their answers made from what comes from within them .

There's no problem with "individual expressions" when they come from a place of awareness based on knowledge. This knowledge can come from reading the suggested materials. When "individual expressions" don't come from a place of awareness, they are little more than opinions which can be harmful if not steeped in truth.

I am trying to relate my own experiences / realizations had with Info that has been made via the C's that's why I have joined the forum . I resonate with much that I have read .

Then keep reading. :)

I am not entering someones house and disrespecting those that dwell there .

You do when you've been referred to the suggested readings several times now and seemingly ignore them.

I am respectful of everyones beliefs and from what I have learnt via experience had Is that In regards to truths and such likes each Individual needs to Integrate what that Is within themselves for themselves .

We don't "believe" anything here. We constantly evaluate and reevaluate information in order to get as close to objective truth as possible. This includes questioning what we think.

The C's mention that certain answers they withhold because It Is Important for these knowings to come from within and not without . The journey made entails one to go through the process of not knowing to knowing, from not realizing to realizing .

My understanding is that in those cases, one is to research the answers for themselves because they are capable of it as opposed to being spoon fed information. In other words, to take responsibility for our growth.

I have an open mind to many teachings and I take on board what advice has been given thus far from the moderators here .

Good. :)

Perhaps It's best for me not to ask anymore questions on this forum . All I have done Is asked general questions respectfully In regards to light, knowings, existence, and Orion, ...etc ..

As said, there's nothing wrong with questions but one must also do as much as they can (in this case reading) so that they are working within the framework of this forum. In other words, we are all on the same page. At that point, the individual has enough information to pose questions that may not have been addressed before.

Being a newbie on this site doesn't mean I am a newbie to what Is . (lol)

Everyone here is in the process of learning. That includes me. Does that include you?

 

[Guardian]

Good point made In that what seemingly matters In the moment may not In the next .

Exactly. Personally, I change what "matters" to me more often than I change my socks. What "matters" to me from moment to moment is a choice, and my choices change when I learn new stuff, find myself in new situations, etc.

Right now, lunch might matter, but if I turn around and my kitchen is on fire, all of the sudden, lunch doesn't matter so much. At that point the Fire Extinguisher is what matters and I'm no longer thinking about pork chops.

 

[God-Like]

There's no problem with "individual expressions" when they come from a place of awareness based on knowledge. This knowledge can come from reading the suggested materials. When "individual expressions" don't come from a place of awareness, they are little more than opinions which can be harmful if not steeped in truth.

So whom can ascertain truth seeker that what one Is aware of Is of knowledge that contains truth?

could you ascertain as to whether my 20 years of daily meditation and Inner searchings contain any real essence of what Is? Would reading any written material make a difference to what I have (or anyone) has realized?

I am not entering someones house and disrespecting those that dwell there .

You do when you've been referred to the suggested readings several times now and seemingly ignore them..

I have taken on board a few suggestions made to read more In depth the wave series and such likes . I have looked through them and what has caught my eye I have digested and resonated with . I therefore do not see any disrespect made that emanates from within me .

I am respectful of everyones beliefs and from what I have learnt via experience had Is that In regards to truths and such likes each Individual needs to Integrate what that Is within themselves for themselves .

We don't "believe" anything here. We constantly evaluate and reevaluate information in order to get as close to objective truth as possible. This includes questioning what we think..

When push comes to shove truth seeker after your own evaluation of the C's material would you say that you believe what they say to be true?

The C's mention that certain answers they withhold because It Is Important for these knowings to come from within and not without . The journey made entails one to go through the process of not knowing to knowing, from not realizing to realizing .

My understanding is that in those cases, one is to research the answers for themselves because they are capable of it as opposed to being spoon fed information. In other words, to take responsibility for our growth..

Do you think that being spoon fed truth will / can have the same effects as the truth arising from within?

Perhaps It's best for me not to ask anymore questions on this forum . All I have done Is asked general questions respectfully In regards to light, knowings, existence, and Orion, ...etc ..

As said, there's nothing wrong with questions but one must also do as much as they can (in this case reading) so that they are working within the framework of this forum. In other words, we are all on the same page. At that point, the individual has enough information to pose questions that may not have been addressed before.

I understand your thoughts made here truth seeker . Would you say though that If the C's Information doesn't Include certain Information that can relate to Individual experinces had then the questions therefore shouldn't be asked?

Being a newbie on this site doesn't mean I am a newbie to what Is . (lol)

E

veryone here is in the process of learning. That includes me. Does that include you?

I would say that there are many aspects to what It Is one can learn . If It can be In respect to knowing the self then It Is only a matter of remembering what we are .

What Is It that on some level we don't know? The C's know and yet they are Us . So perhaps It's all about remembering Instead of learning? What are your thoughts?

x daz x

 

[God-Like]

Good point made In that what seemingly matters In the moment may not In the next .

Exactly. Personally, I change what "matters" to me more often than I change my socks. What "matters" to me from moment to moment is a choice, and my choices change when I learn new stuff, find myself in new situations, etc.

Right now, lunch might matter, but if I turn around and my kitchen is on fire, all of the sudden, lunch doesn't matter so much. At that point the Fire Extinguisher is what matters and I'm no longer thinking about pork chops.

Yer I hear you Guardian - What does that therefore Imply to you In regards to anything mattering that will always matter . Is there anything that will always matter to an Individual .

x daz x

 

[Al Today]

When push comes to shove truth seeker after your own evaluation of the C's material would you say that you believe what they say to be true?

Why the battle of push to shove? There is no battle here 'Tis your Choice. Choice is not given nor forced upon an individual, it is free-will and free-will is not to be abridged. I do not believe, I will observe and see. As methinks many here also perceive. No bragging is needed for it means nothing. No one is more important than other. And fingers need not be pointed in defense of sacred cows. Attitude is again self-interest. Objectively we are nothing. You are not the first, not the last. And no deity cares...

 

[Guardian]

Yer I hear you Guardian - What does that therefore Imply to you In regards to anything

Well, right now it implies that you should really stop capitalizing every "i" in a sentence, it's annoying to try an read.

Is there anything that will always matter to an Individual .

For me, yes. My soul.

 

[1984]

I try not to fill my head with too much of anything In order to allow what's within come to the fore and then evaluate whatever that may be when I drawn to such Information be It the C's, ascended masters, or whoever .

Can you see how that works for me .

Yes, we can see how this works for you. As well, what will work best here for now is a posting ban. You will be able to spend your time reading the Wave series. Once that has been accomplished, you may contact us again for consideration of the release of the posting ban.

 

[Bresias]

Quote from: Briseis on December 23, 2011, 09:40:37 PM



For what it's worth, I remember having a very similar "dilemma", or inner wondering.

I am not speaking as a person who's taken the Cass material any further than a beginner. This is more from my personal experience of growth and development which happens to resonate with some of the Cass material.

Growth and development has been the achievement of greater and greater objectivity. Have you encountered the term "interpersonal boundaries"? In a nutshell, "boundaries" draw the line between myself and what exists outside and completely separate from this little "self".

A very important part of this is separating out "how life really IS" (objectivity) and "what I wish/want/think I deserve/think would be best yadda yadda yadda".

Did I hit anywhere close to home Dazzle ?

Hi Briseis .

I resonate with your thoughts especially to what I text I have bolded .

Certain realizations and mind sets experienced can alter one's perception In regards to whom or what we are that Is experiencing them . Now If one Integrates that mindful experience within everyday life that's full of dramas and such likes one has to ask perhaps does any of this matter or not and to whom does It or doesn't matter too .

My life's purpose matters to me only while daz exists .

x daz x

To say "my life's purpose matters to me only while Daz exists" is what is known as "solopsism". In a nutshell, solopsism is an absolute state of self-reference. It is unfortunately easy to mistake an absolute state of self-relativity with genuinely expanded awareness. The little "self", or Daz, appears to transcend the relative importance and impact of other individuals, "not-self" oriented concepts. It is the antithesis of genuine objectivity . . . which I presumed your original post to be about.

That's why it is SO important to come to places like this, post your thoughts and then STAY OPEN to feedback, especially feedback that stimulates you to be defensive. If you feel defensive, and especially feel the need to assert that you DO indeed know something, that is something to notice and spend time reflecting upon.

We very much need OTHER people to achieve our goal of human maturity (personal growth, greater objectivity). We can knock around in our own heads and attribute magnificent insights to what we find in there . . . but magnificent insights are to be SHARED with others. If our insights are obscure, or riddled with confusing punctuation or phrasing, they are worthless even to us. If they only make sense to us, then we are in a state of solopsism, useless in general, unless it is just to preen with, you know? Try HARD to make yourself heard and understood.

Your life purpose and experiences DO NOT just matter only to Daz while Daz exists. They matter to many other people too.

 

[Gimpy]

So my question to you guys Is what matters to you and why does It matter to you?

The truth matters. Its objective. In a world drowning in crap, its solid ground.

Who Is this ‘you’ that anything matters too?

I don't know you well enough to share that information, even if I had it.