Q: Mouravieff says that there are two kinds of humans
- he calls the "pre-Adamic" and "Adamic," [discussed in
book III]. The idea is that pre-Adamic human types
basically have no "soul" nor any possibility of growing
one. This is a pretty shocking idea, but there have
been recent scholarly discussions of this matter based
on what seems to be clinical evidence that, indeed,
there are human beings who are just "mechanical" and
have no "inner" or "higher self" at all. [See: "Division of
Consciousness"] Gurdjieff talked about this and so did
Castaneda. Are these ideas Mouravieff presents about
the two basic TYPES of humans, as far as they go,
accurate?
A: Indeed, though again, there is a "Biblical Gloss."
Q: Mouravieff says that the "pre-Adamic" humans do
not have the higher centers, nor the possibility of
developing them in this cycle - which we assume to be
the Grand Cycle you have previously described, the
length of which is around 300,000 years. Is this an
accurate representation of "pre-Adamic" beings?
A: Yes, they are "organic" portals between levels of
density.
Q: Based on what Mouravieff has said, it seems to be
so that any efforts to try to raise the consciousness of
such individuals is doomed to fail.
A: Pretty much. Most of them are very efficient
machines. The ones that you have identified as
psychopaths are "failures." The best ones cannot be
discerned except by long and careful observation.
Q: (V) Have I, or anyone in this room, ever
encountered any, and if so, can you give us an
example for reference?
A: If you consider that the population is equally
distributed, then you will understand that in an ordinary
"souled" person's life, that person will encounter half as
many organic portals as souled individuals. BUT, when
someone is in the process of "growing" and
strengthening the soul, the Control System will seek to
insert even more "units" into that person's life. Now,
think of all the people you have ever met and
particularly those with whom you have been, or are,
intimate. Which half of this number would YOU
designate as being organic portals? Hard to tell, eh?
Q: (BT) Is this the original meaning of the "pollution of
the bloodline" that the Bible talks about?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) This certainly gives a whole new meaning to all
the experiences we have had with people like "Frank"
and Vincent Bridges and Terri Burns, Olga and the rest
of the gang! What this means is that the work of
discerning these organic portals from souled human
beings is CRUCIAL to the so-called ascension process.
Without the basic understanding of transformation of,
and conservation of energies, there is no possibility of
fusing a magnetic center. No wonder the Bridges gang
and the COINTELPRO types went bananas while I was
publishing the Adventures Series! And sheesh! They
will go bonkers with this organic portal stuff! (V) In
thinking back over my life, it seems to me that my
father is certainly one of these organic portals.
A: Now, do not start labeling without due
consideration. Remember that very often the individual
who displays contradictory behavior may be a souled
being in struggle.
Q: (L) I would say that the chief thing they are saying
is that the really good ones - you could never tell
except by long observation. The one key we
discovered from studying psychopaths was that their
actions do not match their words. But what if that is a
symptom of just being weak and having no will? (A)
How can I know if I have a soul?
A: Do you ever hurt for another?
Q: (V) I think they are talking about empathy. These
soulless humans simply don't care what happens to
another person. If another person is in pain or misery,
they don't know how to care.
A: The only pain they experience is "withdrawal" of
"food" or comfort, or what they want. They are also
masters of twisting perception of others so as to seem
to be empathetic. But, in general, such actions are
simply to retain control.
