...what in the heck is phi?
I have been wondering as many on the forum what could be the meaning of the 3-5 code. I know there is perhaps more than one meaning or different levels of meaning to what the C's have been trying to describe.
It was quite by “accident” that I may have stumbled onto part of the meaning of some of the clues that have been given in the transcripts and discussed in so many different threads. It is only because I have drawn from several different threads that I am starting this separate one for now.
The clue that led me to the new way of thinking about “phi” was in the forum thread:
Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics
In the above two threads (There are probably other threads on this session as well) following quote is an excerpt taken from November 11, 1995 F****, Laura, SV :
Quote
Q: (L) Medusa. Heads. 11. Is there something about the mythical Medusa that we need to see here?
A: 11 squared divided by phi.
Q: (L) By pi. 11 squared divided by pi. What does this result bring us to?
A: 33.infinity.
Q: (L) Well, we don't get 33 out of this... we get 3.3166 etc if we divide the square root of 11 by pi. Divided by phi... what in the heck is phi? Okay, if we divide pi into 11, we get 3.5 infinity, but not 33.
A: 1 times 1
Q: (L) Oh. You weren't saying 11 times 11, you were saying 1 times 1.
A: No.
Q: (L) 1 times 1 is what? 1.
A: 5 minus 3.
Q: (L) Okay, that's 2.
A: 2 minus 1.
Q: (L) Okay, that's 1. I don't get it. A math genius I am NOT. What is the concept here?
A: Look: 353535.
In the above session segment I noticed that the C's reference to “phi” did not compute for Laura. And I also identified with her statement “ A math genius I am NOT”. I kept thinking that there must be a logical answer to the C's value or meaning for “phi” to give the result of 33 to the equation 11 squared divided by “phi”.
I proceeded to find a standard meaning for “phi”. Of course being the genius I am
I went to Wikipedia. There I discovered that there were more than 26 different definitions for the term “phi”.
There are lower case lower-case letter φ definitions and upper-case letter Φ definitions. Without going into all those definitions I saw that Laura was able to arrive at “3.3166 etc” for the answer to 11 squared divided by pi or “phi”.
I began thinking in reverse order which is often the nature of computer programers (my moniker is goyacobol). According to the C's 11 squared (121) divided by “phi” = 33.
Using an online scientific calculator I noticed that the answer to the equation was somewhere between 3.6 an 3.7. for the value of “phi” to arrive at the answer 33.
Eventually I experimented with different values and intuitively (I guess intuition may not be as valuable as psychic ability but...) I discovered that one possible answer might be “phi” = 3.666666666666666.
3.666666666666666 can also be viewed as 3.666,666,666,666,666. You might notice there are 15 sixes after the decimal point which is 666 repeated 5 times.
In other words 11 squared (121) divided by “phi” ( 3.666,666,666,666,666) = 33.
Yes, it is an answer that seems to work for this equation as far as I can see. So for the C's meaning of “phi” I arrived at 3.666666666666666. That is 15 sixes after the decimal point.
If this could be an answer to one piece of the puzzle or equation where does this lead or what is the symbolism being presented?
Well, the C's go on to talk about “A: Look: 353535.” This whole session mentions not only the number 33 but also relates it to 11 (Medusa) and finally to 353535.
The “phi” answer as I have seen it is 3.(666 repeated 5 times). Does this relate to 35 or 3. (666,666,666,666,666)?
Also in the above thread Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics
There is a quote from from session 941016:
Quote
Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book
of Revelation?
A: Visa.
Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?
Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to
disconnect ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn't just credit also debit.
Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?
Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have
you not heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future of
money as controlled by the world banking system i.e. the
brotherhood i.e. Lizards i.e. antichrist.
Considering the equation what does 11 squared represent? The answer is 121 but what does 121 mean? What is 11 (Medusa?) to the power of 2? Does 666 represent Visa?
I am just asking questions myself. I don't have all the answers and that is why I am sharing these thoughts.
Continuing to think in coding terms, it seems that in the same above thread, Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics, Skyfarmr may have discussed a very relevant subject concerning the “Heximal” number system when it comes to de-coding some of the numbers in which “the mystics dwell” so to speak.
To quote Skyfarmr:
Quote:
I know it may appear that I may be obsessing about 11 multiples, but when they keep appearing I can't help but pull on the thread. I started checking out numbers in different bases and literally stumbled upon something that may just help whack the head off of Medusa....or maybe this just provides a mirror to look at her symbolically.
The website http://www.shackite.com/base-six/base-six.htm explains base 6 numeral system (heximal). The author claims it is "useful in the study of prime numbers".
An interesting link on Shackite's website leads to information about the Ndom language, spoken in Papua New Guinea. They also use a base 6 counting system (finger counting), there word for 6...Mer!
As in mer cubit, meridian, Merovingian, etc.
"Briefly, base six (or "heximal") is a number system that uses the number symbols 0 through 5 in each digit rather than 0 through 9. So the number that would be expressed as 6 in base ten[decimal] is expressed as 10 in base six. We count 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, and so on."
Therefore:
heximal 11 (6x1+1) = decimal 7
heximal 22 (6x2+2) = decimal 14
and so on,
heximal multiples of 11 equal decimal multiples of 7
7 11, incidentally is the ratio of height to base of the Giza pyramid according to Fix.
Also, 11/7 is one half of pi.
In SHOTW, pg281, Laura quotes Albert Pike:
"I do not understand why the 7 should be called Minerva, or the cube, Neptune..."
Included in this section of the book is the discussion of Pythagoras and his symbolism.
if Minerva was associated with 7, which would = heximal 11, and Minerva according to Webster: " Roman myth the goddess of wisdom, technical skill, and invention; identified with the Greek Athena" ie. intellectual control? wasn't Athena the one who condemned Medusa to be a Gorgon,?
Neptune, the cube (6?), would "decode" to heximal 10. Webster defines Neptune: "Roman myth the god of the sea; identified with the Greek Poseidon". Cayce identified Poseidia with Atlantis (Atlanteans). ie. monetary control?
One more thing about 7 and 11; the ancient Roman calendar had September as the 7th month (Septa=7), since March (the month of the Spring Equinox) was the beginning of the year, makes a lot of sense. This would've made September 11, 7/11 rather than 9/11 under the Roman calendar. Interesting.
Am I just playing with numbers, here?... what the C's called a distraction? or could this be a way to decode masonic/biblical symbolism?
End Quote
All of these ideas got my wheels spinning I guess. I then started to look at other things that the C's said in some other transcripts such as the following exerpt.
The following exerpt is from Session 19 March 2001
Quote
Q: (L) Okay, we had a hypnosis session today. Did we do all that was necessary to blow off the locks?
A: Close.
Q: (V) Did we do what was necessary for now?
A: Close.
Q: (A) What percentage of what was necessary to do did we accomplish?
A: 49 percent.
Q: (V) Was 49 the right number?
A: Yes. Laura has open window in more keys. ["keys" as in sound?]
Q: (L) Did we utilize the clues from last night properly?
A: Yes. Now must look us up to talk to us.
Q: (L) Look us up as in the phone book? (V) Look them up in the mirror. (L) Is there...
A: Key FI 3 ["phi" 3?]
Q: (V) Key "phi 3?" You jokers! (L) What is phi 3? (V) Phi to the 3rd power? (L) A phi circle with 3
turns?
A: Route.
Q: (V) Is this phi 3 a path or something?
A: Open your.
Q: (V) Open "your" phi 3? (A) Now route is French for road, and "F" could be for France; and "I-3" could
be a number of a road in France.
End Quote
From the above session with my comments in parentheses:
(V) Was 49 the right number?( Is 49 being expressed heximal and equals 33 decimal?)
A: Yes. Laura has open window in more keys. ["keys" as in sound?]
A: Key FI 3 ["phi" 3?] (If the C's phi = 3.666666666666666 then phi x 3 = 11)
A: Open your. (Eyes? As in Snake eyes? 11? See Medusa?)
I am not suggesting that anyone become a snake with snake eyes but rather we may have to think like one (“be wise as serpents and gentle as doves”) in order to decipher the meanings of the number system.
Laura's conclusion in the Re: 3-5 code thread:
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 09:34:23 AM »
Quote
So far, my take on the 3/5 code, when taken in the context of the discussion where it was bruited, is that we have 3 centers until we work, at which point we can acquire access to two higher centers and become 5, or a "star."
Much gratitude goes to Laura, Ark, Skyfarmr and all the forum members who have inspired me to keep “questing” for the truth in these esoteric realms.
In closing, I would just like some “feedback” to see if 3.666,666,666,666,666 = “phi” makes any sense to anyone as used by the C's.
May the forum be with us,
goyacobol :)
I have been wondering as many on the forum what could be the meaning of the 3-5 code. I know there is perhaps more than one meaning or different levels of meaning to what the C's have been trying to describe.
It was quite by “accident” that I may have stumbled onto part of the meaning of some of the clues that have been given in the transcripts and discussed in so many different threads. It is only because I have drawn from several different threads that I am starting this separate one for now.
The clue that led me to the new way of thinking about “phi” was in the forum thread:
Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics
In the above two threads (There are probably other threads on this session as well) following quote is an excerpt taken from November 11, 1995 F****, Laura, SV :
Quote
Q: (L) Medusa. Heads. 11. Is there something about the mythical Medusa that we need to see here?
A: 11 squared divided by phi.
Q: (L) By pi. 11 squared divided by pi. What does this result bring us to?
A: 33.infinity.
Q: (L) Well, we don't get 33 out of this... we get 3.3166 etc if we divide the square root of 11 by pi. Divided by phi... what in the heck is phi? Okay, if we divide pi into 11, we get 3.5 infinity, but not 33.
A: 1 times 1
Q: (L) Oh. You weren't saying 11 times 11, you were saying 1 times 1.
A: No.
Q: (L) 1 times 1 is what? 1.
A: 5 minus 3.
Q: (L) Okay, that's 2.
A: 2 minus 1.
Q: (L) Okay, that's 1. I don't get it. A math genius I am NOT. What is the concept here?
A: Look: 353535.
In the above session segment I noticed that the C's reference to “phi” did not compute for Laura. And I also identified with her statement “ A math genius I am NOT”. I kept thinking that there must be a logical answer to the C's value or meaning for “phi” to give the result of 33 to the equation 11 squared divided by “phi”.
I proceeded to find a standard meaning for “phi”. Of course being the genius I am
I went to Wikipedia. There I discovered that there were more than 26 different definitions for the term “phi”. There are lower case lower-case letter φ definitions and upper-case letter Φ definitions. Without going into all those definitions I saw that Laura was able to arrive at “3.3166 etc” for the answer to 11 squared divided by pi or “phi”.
I began thinking in reverse order which is often the nature of computer programers (my moniker is goyacobol). According to the C's 11 squared (121) divided by “phi” = 33.
Using an online scientific calculator I noticed that the answer to the equation was somewhere between 3.6 an 3.7. for the value of “phi” to arrive at the answer 33.
Eventually I experimented with different values and intuitively (I guess intuition may not be as valuable as psychic ability but...) I discovered that one possible answer might be “phi” = 3.666666666666666.
3.666666666666666 can also be viewed as 3.666,666,666,666,666. You might notice there are 15 sixes after the decimal point which is 666 repeated 5 times.
In other words 11 squared (121) divided by “phi” ( 3.666,666,666,666,666) = 33.
Yes, it is an answer that seems to work for this equation as far as I can see. So for the C's meaning of “phi” I arrived at 3.666666666666666. That is 15 sixes after the decimal point.
If this could be an answer to one piece of the puzzle or equation where does this lead or what is the symbolism being presented?
Well, the C's go on to talk about “A: Look: 353535.” This whole session mentions not only the number 33 but also relates it to 11 (Medusa) and finally to 353535.
The “phi” answer as I have seen it is 3.(666 repeated 5 times). Does this relate to 35 or 3. (666,666,666,666,666)?
Also in the above thread Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics
There is a quote from from session 941016:
Quote
Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book
of Revelation?
A: Visa.
Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?
Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to
disconnect ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn't just credit also debit.
Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?
Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have
you not heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future of
money as controlled by the world banking system i.e. the
brotherhood i.e. Lizards i.e. antichrist.
Considering the equation what does 11 squared represent? The answer is 121 but what does 121 mean? What is 11 (Medusa?) to the power of 2? Does 666 represent Visa?
I am just asking questions myself. I don't have all the answers and that is why I am sharing these thoughts.
Is There a also a Heximal connection?
Continuing to think in coding terms, it seems that in the same above thread, Session 981114, Prime Numbers, the Pyramid, Dwelling of the mystics, Skyfarmr may have discussed a very relevant subject concerning the “Heximal” number system when it comes to de-coding some of the numbers in which “the mystics dwell” so to speak.
To quote Skyfarmr:
Quote:
I know it may appear that I may be obsessing about 11 multiples, but when they keep appearing I can't help but pull on the thread. I started checking out numbers in different bases and literally stumbled upon something that may just help whack the head off of Medusa....or maybe this just provides a mirror to look at her symbolically.
The website http://www.shackite.com/base-six/base-six.htm explains base 6 numeral system (heximal). The author claims it is "useful in the study of prime numbers".
An interesting link on Shackite's website leads to information about the Ndom language, spoken in Papua New Guinea. They also use a base 6 counting system (finger counting), there word for 6...Mer!
As in mer cubit, meridian, Merovingian, etc.
"Briefly, base six (or "heximal") is a number system that uses the number symbols 0 through 5 in each digit rather than 0 through 9. So the number that would be expressed as 6 in base ten[decimal] is expressed as 10 in base six. We count 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, and so on."
Therefore:
heximal 11 (6x1+1) = decimal 7
heximal 22 (6x2+2) = decimal 14
and so on,
heximal multiples of 11 equal decimal multiples of 7
7 11, incidentally is the ratio of height to base of the Giza pyramid according to Fix.
Also, 11/7 is one half of pi.
In SHOTW, pg281, Laura quotes Albert Pike:
"I do not understand why the 7 should be called Minerva, or the cube, Neptune..."
Included in this section of the book is the discussion of Pythagoras and his symbolism.
if Minerva was associated with 7, which would = heximal 11, and Minerva according to Webster: " Roman myth the goddess of wisdom, technical skill, and invention; identified with the Greek Athena" ie. intellectual control? wasn't Athena the one who condemned Medusa to be a Gorgon,?
Neptune, the cube (6?), would "decode" to heximal 10. Webster defines Neptune: "Roman myth the god of the sea; identified with the Greek Poseidon". Cayce identified Poseidia with Atlantis (Atlanteans). ie. monetary control?
One more thing about 7 and 11; the ancient Roman calendar had September as the 7th month (Septa=7), since March (the month of the Spring Equinox) was the beginning of the year, makes a lot of sense. This would've made September 11, 7/11 rather than 9/11 under the Roman calendar. Interesting.
Am I just playing with numbers, here?... what the C's called a distraction? or could this be a way to decode masonic/biblical symbolism?
End Quote
All of these ideas got my wheels spinning I guess. I then started to look at other things that the C's said in some other transcripts such as the following exerpt.
The following exerpt is from Session 19 March 2001
Quote
Q: (L) Okay, we had a hypnosis session today. Did we do all that was necessary to blow off the locks?
A: Close.
Q: (V) Did we do what was necessary for now?
A: Close.
Q: (A) What percentage of what was necessary to do did we accomplish?
A: 49 percent.
Q: (V) Was 49 the right number?
A: Yes. Laura has open window in more keys. ["keys" as in sound?]
Q: (L) Did we utilize the clues from last night properly?
A: Yes. Now must look us up to talk to us.
Q: (L) Look us up as in the phone book? (V) Look them up in the mirror. (L) Is there...
A: Key FI 3 ["phi" 3?]
Q: (V) Key "phi 3?" You jokers! (L) What is phi 3? (V) Phi to the 3rd power? (L) A phi circle with 3
turns?
A: Route.
Q: (V) Is this phi 3 a path or something?
A: Open your.
Q: (V) Open "your" phi 3? (A) Now route is French for road, and "F" could be for France; and "I-3" could
be a number of a road in France.
End Quote
From the above session with my comments in parentheses:
(V) Was 49 the right number?( Is 49 being expressed heximal and equals 33 decimal?)
A: Yes. Laura has open window in more keys. ["keys" as in sound?]
A: Key FI 3 ["phi" 3?] (If the C's phi = 3.666666666666666 then phi x 3 = 11)
A: Open your. (Eyes? As in Snake eyes? 11? See Medusa?)
I am not suggesting that anyone become a snake with snake eyes but rather we may have to think like one (“be wise as serpents and gentle as doves”) in order to decipher the meanings of the number system.
Laura's conclusion in the Re: 3-5 code thread:
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 09:34:23 AM »
Quote
So far, my take on the 3/5 code, when taken in the context of the discussion where it was bruited, is that we have 3 centers until we work, at which point we can acquire access to two higher centers and become 5, or a "star."
Much gratitude goes to Laura, Ark, Skyfarmr and all the forum members who have inspired me to keep “questing” for the truth in these esoteric realms.
In closing, I would just like some “feedback” to see if 3.666,666,666,666,666 = “phi” makes any sense to anyone as used by the C's.
May the forum be with us,
goyacobol :)
but hey, I am learning and that's what counts. 