What is happening with China's decrease in population?

[SummerLite]

It is difficult to get good information about whats happening in China since the government is so secretive, whats going on there? It's claimed the population is approximately 1.3 billion but the actual number is about 800 million now it's said. In this video it shows the many deserted rural villages and the idea is all these people have moved to the cities for opportunities but looking at these cities it seems the population has greatly decreased in the last few years. There are no bustling crowds and malls and shops are empty, where did the people go is asked by shop owners, everything has changed.

Did the C-19 kill many more people then the people are being told since such numbers would panic people, is asked. China's one child policy has now become a serious problem with incentives for people to have more children but this is a more recent occurrence in the last few years it seems.

If this video is to long to post please format it in a different way since I don't know how to do that. I understand there are concerns about such posts here. It's 16 minutes long, not to bad. Thanks

 

[mkrnhr]

I think the decrease in population is related to the one-child-policy specific to China, and the decrease of fertility rates seen almost everywhere. Countries like Japan and South-Korea are struggling already with an aging population (young people don't marry and don't have kids, they have to work to death to pay for the pensions to oversimplify) but the fertility rate below the replacement threshold of 2.1 child/woman is affecting all urbanized countries even if the economic and social effects will take some time to manifest.

 

[Wandering Star]

China has already started harvesting and already has many people underground.

Jokes aside, if it's true it's a curious thing.

 

[iamthatis]

No mystery here, and no conspiracy needed - it's a pretty well-established historical fact that once a population begins to increase in wealth and prosperity, birth rates start to decline. The reasons for this are many, and can be found with a basic internet search.

 

[Vulcan59]

James Corbett has an article out wherein he argues that population decline is a world wide phenomenon!

And here's the even worse news. It isn't just Japan. Birth rates are declining in country after country around the globe.

Japan is Committing Harakiri (But So Is Everybody Else)

I'm sure you've heard the news by now, but, in case not, let me give it to you straight: Japan is dying.

corbettreport.substack.com

 

[meadow_wind]

This is what I found that could explain:

This sounds like Covid injection deaths

China’s population falls for third year in a row as birthrate declines

China’s population continues to fall for third straight year due to declining birthrate and amid concerns for economy.

www.aljazeera.com

China's population has been steadily declining since the 1980s, but the year 2022 marked the first time deaths outpaced births since 1961 when China was in the midst of the disastrous Great Leap Forward plan, which led to a famine in which an estimated 20 million people died of starvation.


There is some interesting info in this article
Recap of China's child policy: one-child policy (1979-2015), two-child policy (2016-2021), three-child policy (2021-present) to address declining birth rates and an aging population.

It’s time to abolish China’s three-child policy

For 35 years – from 1980 to 2015 – the Chinese government maintained a one-child policy, subjecting millions of women to forced contraception, forced sterilisation, and forced abortion.

www.hrw.org

But none of these have worked well so far: China’s birth rate continues to drop. The total fertility rate decreased from 2.6 in the late 1980s to just 1.15 in 2021. In fact, in 2022 the population might have declined for the first time since the Great Famine of 1959 to 1961, according to a projection by the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences.
When the government announced the three-child policy in June 2021, it was met with widespread cynicism online. (...)

But for women in China, a significant additional reason for their unwillingness to have more children is the unequal burden of childcare responsibilities they would shoulder and its potentially detrimental impact on their careers. (...)

The same study reported that 61 % of surveyed female job applicants – compared with 32 % of male applicants – said they had been asked about their childbearing or childrearing status by potential employers. Over 38 % of surveyed women said their career prospects were negatively affected by marriage and childrearing, while only 18 % of men reported the same.

A 2020 study on the impact of family planning policy changes on urban women by the Women’s Studies Institute of China reported that 45% of respondents said their employment was negatively affected by pregnancy or childrearing. Over one-third reported income loss, and more than 20% described losing opportunities for training or promotions. Another 13% said they were fired or forced to resign, and 8% said they experienced demotion. (...)

Another factor underpinning this grim reality for women is the traditional and deeply discriminatory gender roles and practices: women are primarily responsible for childcare in their families and are expected to subordinate career aspirations to these family obligations. (...)

The Chinese government has in recent years taken some actions to assist women in the workplace. In November, the government amended the Women’s Rights and Interests Protection Law, the highest law concerning gender equality in the country, for the first time in nearly 30 years. Among the provisions to combat gender discrimination in the workplace, the law banned employers from inquiring or investigating the marital and maternal status of female job applicants or making such status a condition for employment.

 

[mkrnhr]

Japan has been trying to reverse the decline in birth rates for decades with no permanent results.
According to the results found online, the TFR in China is between 1.2 (.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate) and 1.5 (Total fertility rate Comparison - The World Factbook).
The lowest is South Korea between 0.9 and 1.12 (same sources) and Japan (the most famous example) is at 1.3-1.4.
This thread discusses the natural and not so natural depopulation: Depopulation of a Planet

 

[broken.english]

There are no bustling crowds and malls and shops are empty, where did the people go is asked by shop owners, everything has changed.

While depopulation in China and other countries is real, this video appears to be strongly biased and exaggerated.I had a look at a few brandnew travel videos on China and they all showed that the cities are still crowded.

This is Chongqing in March 2025:

 

[SOTTREADER]

While depopulation in China and other countries is real, this video appears to be strongly biased and exaggerated.I had a look at a few brandnew travel videos on China and they all showed that the cities are still crowded.

This is Chongqing in March 2025:View attachment 107015

More than 25 million people live in Chongqing alone. The city is the size of Austria the country

Chongqing, China - a city as large as the country of Austria.
by u/freudian_nipps in megalophobia

 

[SummerLite]

While depopulation in China and other countries is real, this video appears to be strongly biased and exaggerated.I had a look at a few brandnew travel videos on China and they all showed that the cities are still crowded.

Yes, I wondered how authentic this video was. Then it's good things aren't so bad. Although I'm aware of their problems with low birth rates etc. what caused me to post here was the mention of a very noticeable decline in the last few years which led me to think of possible results from C jabs or somehing else? Perhaps they've reached a peak in all these issues and it's being seen more obviously in some locations. People moving to certain cities but not others possibly, not enough people to go around.

James Corbett has an article out wherein he argues that population decline is a world wide phenomenon!

Japan is Committing Harakiri (But So Is Everybody Else)

I'm sure you've heard the news by now, but, in case not, let me give it to you straight: Japan is dying.

corbettreport.substack.com

Thanks Vulcan59. I haven't read this but wanted to say Japan had a huge uptake of the jabs and they're seeing the sad results of that now. It's also been shown this causes infertility which helps along any other factors involved.

Since this all started with the C-19 vax there have been many speculations of large die offs happening within so many years, 2-3-5-10 years perhaps. No one really knows for sure how many have died already because of all the obfuscation.

There is still so much hidden from us, to find all the answers in a public space isn't possible.

 

[SummerLite]

I think if I lived in China I'd move to one of these deserted rural towns with a few very old people and grow a garden.... These cities look uninhabitable to me. To big, to glitzy, to noisy, to crowded. Microwaved domes.

 

[axj]

Since this all started with the C-19 vax there have been many speculations of large die offs happening within so many years, 2-3-5-10 years perhaps. No one really knows for sure how many have died already because of all the obfuscation.

Keep in mind that most people in China did not get an mRNA vaxx but a traditional one. By the time the first mRNA vaxx was approved in China in March 2023, supposedly over 90% of the population already received the other vaccines.

So China seems to be one of the last places to look for an mRNA injection die-off.

 

[SOTTREADER]

I think if I lived in China I'd move to one of these deserted rural towns with a few very old people and grow a garden.... These cities look uninhabitable to me. To big, to glitzy, to noisy, to crowded. Microwaved domes.

They also have cars like this that cost the equivalent of a low-mid range used car in the US and Europe

The western equivalents of these types of cars are north of $100,000.

 

[SummerLite]

Keep in mind that most people in China did not get an mRNA vaxx but a traditional one. By the time the first mRNA vaxx was approved in China in March 2023, supposedly over 90% of the population already received the other vaccines.

So China seems to be one of the last places to look for an mRNA injection die-off.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. Considering China's history of other die offs I thought there may be something to another one.

 

[SummerLite]

They also have cars like this that cost the equivalent of a low-mid range used car in the US and Europe

The western equivalents of these types of cars are north of $100,000.

Toyota is my preference but in the village I'm fine with a horse and cart. Other means of transportation would be needed on occasion, maybe one of the old people will have a truck that can be used for longer distances.