What is justice?

[bozadi]

The basic cause is self-explanatory: failure to learn.

I need to elucidate my current idea on this. I mean, the concept of "failure to learn" might not be very self-explanatory, I must admit.

Ra says about the pre-veiling (long wave cycle):

Questioner: ... Before the veil there was an awareness of the need for polarization towards service to others in third density by all entities, whether incarnate in third-density, yellow-ray bodies or in between incarnations. I assume, then, that the condition of which we earlier spoke, one of wealth you might say, was present through the entire spectrum of experience whether it might be between incarnations or during incarnations and the entities just simply could not manifest the desire to create this polarization necessary for graduation. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You begin to grasp the situation. Let us continue the metaphor of the schooling but consider the scholar as being an entity in your younger years of the schooling process. The entity is fed, clothed, and protected regardless of whether or not the schoolwork is accomplished. Therefore, the entity does not do the homework but rather enjoys playtime, mealtime, and vacation. It is not until there is a reason to wish to excel that most entities will attempt to excel.

Questioner: You have stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize more than 50% service-to-others to be harvestable fourth-density positive. Was this condition the same at the time before the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process. The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross.

The C's say about the transition from the long to short wave cycle:

The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

There were 4D efforts to entice us to physicality, followed by the enslaving genetic manipulation of DNA, etc.

This was also a transition from STO to STS, and it's also called the "fall". I don't know if the transition from STO to STS was the fall per se, or if the term fall is more about our becoming enslaved by the Lizzies, or the two is more or less the same? I wonder if it was also a possibility to go on with STO in the short wave cycle if it was not for our "alignment" with 4D STS.

Anyway, apparently we were enticed by the "pleasures of physicality", then kind of allowed ourselves to be manipulated by 4D STS, and this resulted in a kind of enslavement.

I think that Ra's description about our pre-fall (long wave cycle) problem of corruption/spoiledness is more or less valid in our short wave experience as well. I want to remind the following again from Ra:

The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density.

I think this problem (the lack of necessary faith or will) is the main reason for the excessive repetition of 3D.

 

[bozadi]

I try to reconcile a "failure to learn" (necessary lessons) with the lack of faith/will.

The C's said "Soul is consciousness". So, to be is to know. Being and knowing/awareness are somewhat synonymous. Then, "failure to learn" is synonymous with "failure to be". I think this can be the connection between the two. I can reconcile a "lack of faith/will" with the "failure to be" more readily than with the "failure to learn", although the two end up being synonymous.

Then, there's the question for me, how to reconcile this with the idea of "karma", if they are actually closely related or synonymous as well.

 

[Ricardo]

I try to reconcile a "failure to learn" (necessary lessons) with the lack of faith/will.

The C's said "Soul is consciousness". So, to be is to know. Being and knowing/awareness are somewhat synonymous. Then, "failure to learn" is synonymous with "failure to be". I think this can be the connection between the two. I can reconcile a "lack of faith/will" with the "failure to be" more readily than with the "failure to learn", although the two end up being synonymous.

Then, there's the question for me, how to reconcile this with the idea of "karma", if they are actually closely related or synonymous as well.

(imo ) first and foremost , in free will , this would be the question to ask , can any(thing) exist outside of a free will system ? , theologically speaking this would raise interesting questions (as to choice ) , further , since this question presumably encompasses different densities , as it were , different lessons must be learned , while still , keeping to same , ie choice , and congruence of free will in said system , else we're outside of such and meaningless as per it's primary rule , free will. There's the question of entropy but can't say i have any words to write on it . One example of this is RA , when addressing potential candidates to graduation ( to 4th ) , they gave a response in percentages , say , as opposed to some absolute rule/law . this helps ?

 

[bozadi]

(imo ) first and foremost , in free will , this would be the question to ask , can any(thing) exist outside of a free will system ? , theologically speaking this would raise interesting questions (as to choice ) , further , since this question presumably encompasses different densities , as it were , different lessons must be learned , while still , keeping to same , ie choice , and congruence of free will in said system , else we're outside of such and meaningless as per it's primary rule , free will. There's the question of entropy but can't say i have any words to write on it . One example of this is RA , when addressing potential candidates to graduation ( to 4th ) , they gave a response in percentages , say , as opposed to some absolute rule/law . this helps ?

Ricardo, you might have mistaken the expression "lack of will" for "lack of free will", although the two can be very closely related. I'm sure that free will is the basic law of being. The "will" I mentioned is in the sense of resolution, determination, commitment, decisiveness. My expression "lack of faith/will" refers to the Ra's explanation:

The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density.

So, I think, Ra says that, before the veil (in the long wave cycle), humanity in general didn't have enough faith/will (resolution, determination, commitment, decisiveness) to graduate to 4D. Probably the same problem is still ongoing in the short wave cycle.

From a "lessons" point of view, we can say that humanity in general hadn't (and still haven't) completed its 3D lessons. It can also be said that they hadn't had "sufficient knowledge/awareness" although they had been repeating 3D so many times according to Ra. Previously, it seemed to me that this can't just be a matter of "more knowledge" because the problem seems to be about a serious existential corruption/disease, resulting in a lack of "interest in being" rather than a lack of interest in knowledge. But considering that "knowing is being" or, vice versa, "being is knowing" (because "soul is consciousness"), it now makes more sense to me.

Now, I try to reconcile the problem of "lack of interest in being/knowing" with the idea of "karma", because the C's say that the lessons of 3D consist of "karmic and simple understandings". I wonder, are the words "karmic" and "simple" together or separate? I mean, is it "simple karmic understandings" or "karmic understandings AND simple understandings"? I currently suppose it's "simple karmic understandings", and then all our lessons are karmic in nature, I suppose. And I try to reconcile "karma" with the problem of being/knowing deficiency.

 

[Wandering Star]

So, I think, Ra says that, before the veil (in the long wave cycle), humanity in general didn't have enough faith/will (resolution, determination, commitment, decisiveness) to graduate to 4D. Probably the same problem is still ongoing in the short wave cycle.

We are in the world and we know nothing.

Things happen and we don't know why.

The veil allows this.

We are trampled, humiliated, made sick, deceived, we suffer injustice and more and more.

Indifference and reaction without knowing is the initial.

Little by little some "choose" despite everything to prosper and win.

Others "choose" despite all the sacrifice and the result is to serve.

The veil is still there, so faith in oneself is the sustenance.

In the end, a choice has been made.

Without the veil, the choice is not so clear and efficient.

For example, here (this forum) the veil has been penetrated thanks to the C's and the work of everyone, but faith in our decision is what remains and what defines us (choice).

Even supposing that we think we know something, the third density will continue to test us.

 

[Wandering Star]

Q: (L) Are we going to get any repercussions or responses to the distribution of this material?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we going to get any positive responses?

A: Yes. We direct you as long as you have faith in us, as we are you! Attack is always designed to destroy that faith, either directly or indirectly. Think of the instances, to see if there is a familiar pattern to the "root."

 

[bozadi]

We are in the world and we know nothing.

Things happen and we don't know why.

The veil allows this.

We are trampled, humiliated, made sick, deceived, we suffer injustice and more and more.

Indifference and reaction without knowing is the initial.

Little by little some "choose" despite everything to prosper and win.

Others "choose" despite all the sacrifice and the result is to serve.

The veil is still there, so faith in oneself is the sustenance.

In the end, a choice has been made.

Without the veil, the choice is not so clear and efficient.

For example, here (this forum) the veil has been penetrated thanks to the C's and the work of everyone, but faith in our decision is what remains and what defines us (choice).

Even supposing that we think we know something, the third density will continue to test us.

As for the "veil", this comes to mind:

At least you should by now know that it is the soul that matters, not the body. Others have genetically, spiritually and psychically manipulated/engineered you to be bodycentric. Interesting, as despite all efforts by 4th through 6th density STO, this "veil remains unbroken."

I'm not sure if there are different types of "veils" described in the Ra-Cassiopaean cosmology, but the one mentioned above seems to be closely related to body-centricity.

I think that to the extent we are body-centric, we become somewhat "materialistic", even if we talk much about spirituality. The overt or covert belief in being a body in the world is extremely limiting, because, according to the cosmology, "we are all, all is one, infinite potentiality". This extreme limitation leads to a trap of "desire and fear", false self, ego. And the dominant conditions of life in the world are under extreme control as to promote body-centricity, ego, the vicious circle of desires & fears.

True positivity is what pierces the veil, I believe. It contains and conveys a certain awareness. When I say "true", I mean it's not caused or produced externally but from within, from our very deepest/highest self. The deepest part of our being is 7D, which is pure impersonal being, positivity, awareness, I suppose.

We know or can perceive that we are the positivity/being, we are the core of everything, there's nothing but us, the Self. But we're extremely identified with the world and with our body. That's where we are estranged to our true eternal self. The STS conspirators impose a huge amount of negativity on us, and it often becomes very easy to lose our sense of our true self. Falsity/lie is shared by billions of people like a standard, a law.

 

[Natus Videre]

(imo ) first and foremost , in free will , this would be the question to ask , can any(thing) exist outside of a free will system ? , theologically speaking this would raise interesting questions (as to choice ) ,

I think nothing can exist outside of a free will system. The simplest and the most convincing logical explanation I found is the following:

• Statement A: There are no rules.
• Statement B: Statement A is a rule.

And the same pattern can be applied to truth:

• Statement C: Truth does not exist.
• Statement D: Truth must exist for Statement C to be true.

When we search for the ultimate meaning/basis of reality, we reach these circular, recursive conclusions. Notice how "truth" supersedes any notion of "time" or "space", i.e. truth "outlives" its various expressions and manifestations. Souls are immortal because truth is immortal.

Q: (L) Next question on the list: How do consciousness, information, and matter relate to each other?

A: Different concentrations of truth.

Q: (L) So I'm assuming you mean that matter would be one concentration, and consciousness would be another, and information like maybe pure information would be the purest form?

A: Not necessarily, information arranged by a truth becomes consciousness. That is why truth and objectivity are so important. Without it, consciousness and individuality fractures and disintegrates.

Now, free will also allows beings to ignore it or suppress it. The creative cycle can be broken, but that is a choice. However, believing and promoting lies has a disintegrative effect, because the universe is about assembling truths, not lies.