What next?

Str!ke

Jedi
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.


And how can I help?
 
Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.


And how can I help?

Then you are ready for some other good books.

Have a look at the recommended books: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,4718.msg31032.html#msg31032
 
Congrats on the reading so far Str!ke. You can find an extensive reading list here. It is generously footnoted with explanations about why each book was considered necessary. It's a good idea to finish the Wave series. Many of the Red Pill Press books are available on kindle, so it's a little easier on the budget.

Where you go next kind of depends. You can't clean your machine without knowing how the guts work. :) Since part of maintaining a good machine means caring for it properly, the Diet and Health books are essential. That's generally where folks are advised to go first, since it's hard to think straight, or assimilate new concepts when diet issues are messing up your brain chemistry. Then on to the cognitive science section. If you've been following the Jesus was Caesar thread, it will help to read the books recommended there, plus Laura's Horns of Moses. As you can see, there is plenty of choice. :cool2:

The best way to help is to participate here. There are plenty of threads on all sorts of subjects, and who knows what valuable piece of information you may have to share on one of them? You'll also notice requests for help with different projects. There is always a need for help with the Signs page. Creating transcripts of the weekly SOTT Talk radio shows is another ongoing project.

added: I see Gandalf has posted the book link too. Thanks, Gandalf!
 
Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.


And how can I help?

Well, diet, networking, EE, dealing with our programs, and learning seems to be enough for a few lifetimes! As for how to help, keep up with the forum and opportunities to help on a variety of projects will arise.
 
Hi Str!ke, I think reading Ouspensky's 'In search of the Miraculous' (referred to as ISOTM) will give you some perspective on the school here, a striking view of the human condition and potential as well as what is meant by 'the Work'.

The most elusive thing to me 'between' all those things you mentioned, is the grounding or application of knowledge, without which nothing happens. Some lessons are easier to apply (i.e personally diet was 123; read about it, understand and apply, no real hitches. Of course others had done the sacrifice and footwork in serving me the knowledge here), others, which for me relates to 'simple karmic understanding' (I think) as well as 'self remembering' prove to be quite tricky getting results in. Even though these are exercises for the self, the feedback loops with the network is invaluable as a companion; in keeping us to the matter of staying awake, seeking objective truth, also as a platform to serve others.
 
Sounds great Str!ke!

Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.


And how can I help?

Two questions I would have: What would you like to do? Or what would see as important in your personal life?
 
Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.

OK, how about this? you try to remember why you start reading and doing all of this at the first place ? :D
and if you think you ended up being the same person, then you are missing the whole point of it.
may I recommend "application" in addition to "knowledge", I myself not sure of how to apply what I've learned so I use trial and error (not suggesting you do the same) because the more I apply the more I learn, sometimes it gets tough but it's fun :knitting:
 
Scribblenauts said:
Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.

OK, how about this? you try to remember why you start reading and doing all of this at the first place ? :D
and if you think you ended up being the same person, then you are missing the whole point of it.
may I recommend "application" in addition to "knowledge", I myself not sure of how to apply what I've learned so I use trial and error (not suggesting you do the same) because the more I apply the more I learn, sometimes it gets tough but it's fun :knitting:

For me at least it seems to go in cycles. For instance I'll spend a couple of months just staying in and reading a lot, and then one day I'll wake up with an intense desire to go out and interact with people more, go to social things, classes, workshops etc. I tend to see this as a sign that I need to start applying what I've crammed into my head, and sure enough, I'm presented with just the lessons that I need (in retrospect), with some weird synchronicities to boot.

The key, I think, is just to trust the Universe. As long as you're sincerely seeking knowledge/growth, things tend to work out, though never as you would expect. Just pay attention and look for opportunities.
 
Str!ke said:
. . . but what would be the important thing to do?.

Perhaps the important thing would be to do nothing? Digest what you have learned, and let your next step evolve organically out of that?

Knowledge and impressions are a kind of food, and as such need to be digested.

For me, there usually comes a time, after intense knowledge input, when I need to step back, digest what I've learned, and move naturally on to the next source of knowledge. I was away from the forum for a while, but during that time I noticed that many of the concepts we discuss here 'seated' themselves within me, virtually without effort on my part.

The Cs suggest 'knowledge input on a continuous basis' but I think there's also a place for fallow time.
 
Carlise said:
The key, I think, is just to trust the Universe. As long as you're sincerely seeking knowledge/growth, things tend to work out, though never as you would expect. Just pay attention and look for opportunities.

Endymion said:
Perhaps the important thing would be to do nothing? Digest what you have learned, and let your next step evolve organically out of that?

Knowledge and impressions are a kind of food, and as such need to be digested.

I very much want to support these recommendations from personal experience.

There's a thread about information overload which might be of help: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,29888.0.html

The most important thing IMO would be to try to come to your senses and I hint at more meanings than just one with this remark if you follow my drift.

In doing so, you will probably experience in a natural way where your personal path will lead you to on The Way so to speak.

Hope this helps a bit. :)
 
parallel said:
Hi Str!ke, I think reading Ouspensky's 'In search of the Miraculous' (referred to as ISOTM) will give you some perspective on the school here, a striking view of the human condition and potential as well as what is meant by 'the Work'

I second that. From my persorsonal experience I can tell you, that book helped me to understand most of the ideas and concepts of the work here.
Also, you have many topics on the forum which you may be interested in, e.g. History, psycology, among others.

Applying this work(Diet, EE practice,self observation,external consideration, etc) in your life, and paying attention to ongoing events are the most important thing to do, OSIT.

Here: http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?l=E. You can find more about the terms mencioned above ( self observation and external consideration).
 
Hi Str!ke,

Endymion said:
Str!ke said:
. . . but what would be the important thing to do?.
Perhaps the important thing would be to do nothing? Digest what you have learned, and let your next step evolve organically out of that?
...
jhonny said:
...
Applying this work(Diet, EE practice,self observation,external consideration, etc) in your life, and paying attention to ongoing events are the most important thing to do, OSIT.
...
Acquiring information, converting to knowledge is one thing, and important, yet what is of most importance is the application of any knowledge gained. From this, it is quite likely that new questions will arise, leading you to acquiring more information from new sources - there is your 'what next'. Just let it flow.

This may help or not.
 
A diagram comes to mind that may be helpful - put together a few years back, from sources from the C's, possibly Ra, that goes like this:

2nd order - Mind and social practicality
Data -> perception -> information -> cognition ->

1st order - Body and physical survival
(cognition) -> knowledge -> experience -> understanding -> application ->

Highest order - spirit and spiritual evolution
(application) -> awareness [the limit of STS] -> [STO] (humility) -> (self) recognition -> wisdom -> (pure will)
 
Carlise said:
Scribblenauts said:
Str!ke said:
Finished reading The Wave, Amazing Grace, TSHOTW I,II. What next? I mean , I’m still not sure what are we supposed to do or what next to do?
Besides diet and networking, EE, dealing with our programs, learning, is there more to do than just that?(Not to say that I’ve achieved that either). I’m kinda lost of what after.
I know its ambiguous these questions and that there are myriad of answers, but what would be the important thing to do?.

OK, how about this? you try to remember why you start reading and doing all of this at the first place ? :D
and if you think you ended up being the same person, then you are missing the whole point of it.
may I recommend "application" in addition to "knowledge", I myself not sure of how to apply what I've learned so I use trial and error (not suggesting you do the same) because the more I apply the more I learn, sometimes it gets tough but it's fun :knitting:

For me at least it seems to go in cycles. For instance I'll spend a couple of months just staying in and reading a lot, and then one day I'll wake up with an intense desire to go out and interact with people more, go to social things, classes, workshops etc. I tend to see this as a sign that I need to start applying what I've crammed into my head, and sure enough, I'm presented with just the lessons that I need (in retrospect), with some weird synchronicities to boot.

The key, I think, is just to trust the Universe. As long as you're sincerely seeking knowledge/growth, things tend to work out, though never as you would expect. Just pay attention and look for opportunities.

Exactly, this "intense desire", "the lessons" and "the synchronicities", thank you very much
Gaining knowledge unlocks potentials, applying that knowledge is like putting those potentials in their proper place, fixed or something like that
Trusting the Universe maybe the hard part, because there is this "little guy" with his "what if" and "that doesn't sound right", but (though never as you would expect) may solve this problem :D
 
Palinurus said:
Carlise said:
The key, I think, is just to trust the Universe. As long as you're sincerely seeking knowledge/growth, things tend to work out, though never as you would expect. Just pay attention and look for opportunities.

Endymion said:
Perhaps the important thing would be to do nothing? Digest what you have learned, and let your next step evolve organically out of that?

Knowledge and impressions are a kind of food, and as such need to be digested.

I very much want to support these recommendations from personal experience.

There's a thread about information overload which might be of help: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,29888.0.html

The most important thing IMO would be to try to come to your senses and I hint at more meanings than just one with this remark if you follow my drift.

In doing so, you will probably experience in a natural way where your personal path will lead you to on The Way so to speak.

Hope this helps a bit. :)

Agree, and I don't see anything wrong with "information overload", the feeling of "overload" maybe just momentarily, a temporary thing, because at a certain points in time every piece of information gets handy, I mean there comes times when suddenly some or all the dots connect, then you will feel like you are not gathering information you are just gathering yourself = building your self up, your self in the future, so you help yourself become what you are destined to become
 
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