What will happen with our pets?

Dirgni

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Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes? Will we be still able to care for them or are they just on their own? Is there anything we can prepare for them? Is there any chance for them to get 2D/3D STO (As far as I understood maybe not...)?

When I got my cat I sort of promised him that I will take care of him for the rest of his life. The idea that I "somehow go away" and have to leave my cat back home - locked in - without a possibility to escape - make me "crazy" and very sad. To be let behind to evaporate or to starve to death. To be let behind to die after a lot of suffering. I would like to give him a life as good as possible. Therefore my questions.

I don't know if this topic is already discused somewhere. If yes, please just put in a link here. Maybe there is something I just did not understand right. Comments are very welcome. Thank you.
 
Dirgni said:
Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes? Will we be still able to care for them or are they just on their own? Is there anything we can prepare for them? Is there any chance for them to get 2D/3D STO (As far as I understood maybe not...)?

When I got my cat I sort of promised him that I will take care of him for the rest of his life. The idea that I "somehow go away" and have to leave my cat back home - locked in - without a possibility to escape - make me "crazy" and very sad. To be let behind to evaporate or to starve to death. To be let behind to die after a lot of suffering. I would like to give him a life as good as possible. Therefore my questions.

I don't know if this topic is already discused somewhere. If yes, please just put in a link here. Maybe there is something I just did not understand right. Comments are very welcome. Thank you.

As I understand it, 2d creatures belong to a large soul pool, and I don't think it could reasonably be said that they have an individuality that will simply transform into 3d as Earth passes through the wave. I think youre thinking about this in simplistic (3d) terms, when in reality things will be much more complex.

And again, the whole "raised to STO" thing sounds far to simplistic and new age. I really don't think it's just gonna be a matter or ascension like that.

There are a lot of interesting discussions about animals in the 'Our 2d Friends' section of the forum, you might enjoy reading through some of the threads there :).
 
Dirgni said:
Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes? Will we be still able to care for them or are they just on their own? Is there anything we can prepare for them? Is there any chance for them to get 2D/3D STO (As far as I understood maybe not...)?

When I got my cat I sort of promised him that I will take care of him for the rest of his life. The idea that I "somehow go away" and have to leave my cat back home - locked in - without a possibility to escape - make me "crazy" and very sad. To be let behind to evaporate or to starve to death. To be let behind to die after a lot of suffering. I would like to give him a life as good as possible. Therefore my questions.

These are good questions, assuming that the wave is coming and some people will 'ascend' to 4D, as it were. However, it doesn't seem clear that such a transition will necessarily separate them from their 2D friends.

I can't imagine that gaining more psychic strength and greater compassion and consideration for others should require or motivate one to abandon one's 2D companions. If anything, the opposite should be the case, such that one will become closer to them and become even better able to care for them.
 
Not to come across as rude but would STO beings even have pets? Isn't that counted as a possesion which is strictly STS? Animals can take care of themselves for the most part why would they need us after the wave transition?
 
Dirgni said:
Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes?

I have no idea, but if my dog can't come with me, I'm not going anywhere!

I doubt the cat and the goats would miss me ;)
 
Dirgni said:
Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes? Will we be still able to care for them or are they just on their own?...

What happens to our pets if the wave doesn't come (or at least not in our 3rd density timeframe)? Don't we each have our experiences and lessons, pets included?

At my age and in my state of health I have to think about what happens if the cats outlive both of us, a distinct possibility. It's not a pleasant thought.
 
I don't know what will happen to me or any of us never mind our pets when the wave comes. But I guess living with people may have a certain effect on them which may include leading to the potential of them becoming 3d candidates.
 
Dirgni said:
Let us assume we are raised to 4D STO. What happens with our pets when the wave comes? Will we be still able to care for them or are they just on their own? Is there anything we can prepare for them? Is there any chance for them to get 2D/3D STO (As far as I understood maybe not...)?

We don't know how the Wave will manifest itself (if it isn't already started), so this is just an assumption, but I do have a feeling that it won't be in an evangelic style of "ascension", when 4D candidates will disappear from the face of the Earth in a poof. Besides, no good deed or energy spent on the creatures smaller and weaker than us will go wasted, so that's also something to keep in mind. Who knows, maybe it will help their own progression up the densities ladder.

Dirgni said:
When I got my cat I sort of promised him that I will take care of him for the rest of his life. The idea that I "somehow go away" and have to leave my cat back home - locked in - without a possibility to escape - make me "crazy" and very sad. To be let behind to evaporate or to starve to death. To be let behind to die after a lot of suffering. I would like to give him a life as good as possible. Therefore my questions.

Well, you are here now, and you probably take good care of your cat as you promised, and that is what important. We all have lessons, including our furry friends, and we can't possibly know what exactly will happen or when, but we can make the best with what we have now, and with the time that is available to us. I think that if what C's said is true, and lower creatures are somehow assisted in their progression by being near those who are on a higher level, the best thing you can do for your kitty is to work on yourself and trust the Universe to do the rest. :)
 
ajseph 21 said:
Not to come across as rude but would STO beings even have pets? Isn't that counted as a possesion which is strictly STS? Animals can take care of themselves for the most part why would they need us after the wave transition?

And what about the concept of animals being "companions", which implies a mutual agreement (on what ever level) rather than possession? Maybe it's not really (or not always) applicable in our STS environment, but who knows what kind of opportunities upcoming changes have in store for us. It's hard to speculate when we can't really even imagine what it is to be STO. Maybe it could be something like mutualistic symbiosis, or something else entirely.
 
Keit I've thought about that as well as far as companions go. We may be of service to them in that way just not as keeping them as pets you know? I remember a transcript mentioning that dogs experience need as love so we don't really know if our pets truly would stay with us if they didn't need us. There could be exceptions however.
 
Thank you all for your help and your feedback.

When checking your answers I found 2 issues at the bottom of the questions. None of these are necessarily connected to problems outside our "known" "normal" life. The first one is what happens to my cat if I vanish from his life quite suddenly without a possibility to come back. The second one is simply fear of the unknown. The solution for the first on is to ask a couple of persons (e.g. family) to take care of him if something happens to me. The solution for the second one is to get more information so that I have a better notion/conception what happens and what is connected to it.

At my age and in my state of health I have to think about what happens if the cats outlive both of us, a distinct possibility. It's not a pleasant thought.
I would feel the same in your situation. I hope your cats will have someone to take over from you. Maybe you can find someone in your larger family, neighbourhood. Maybe you can ask animal shelters or the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals about this.

And again, the whole "raised to STO" thing sounds far to simplistic and new age. I really don't think it's just gonna be a matter or ascension like that.
We don't know how the Wave will manifest itself (if it isn't already started), so this is just an assumption, but I do have a feeling that it won't be in an evangelic style of "ascension", when 4D candidates will disappear from the face of the Earth in a poof.
I agree that I lack knowledge about the whole "raised to STO" thing. Some of my questions above are somewhat simplistic, too. :-[
I am not too sure about the new age type of ascension either. As far as I remember they tell that we just skip 4D and go directly to 5D because we are so good etc. When you consider that 5D is a sort "recreation area" between lives one wonders...

Not to come across as rude but would STO beings even have pets? Isn't that counted as a possesion which is strictly STS? Animals can take care of themselves for the most part why would they need us after the wave transition?
New STO beings may just live with 4-legged (winged, swimming, green, whatever) family members before becoming STO? In my opinion animals and plants belong to themselves. But the law of most countries tends to have another opinion, which is shared by a lot of humans. "My" cat is just part of of my family.
Perhaps you may want to be careful when you say that animals can take care of themselves when it comes to domestic animals in 3D. Living with human has removed some of the original ability to handle a wild life. Humankind may have/feel the responsibility for them and may have to recompense somehow.

I remember a transcript mentioning that dogs experience need as love so we don't really know if our pets truly would stay with us if they didn't need us. There could be exceptions however.
Cats may just leave and search themselves another home if they are not satisfied enough with the service. :)

Keit I've thought about that as well as far as companions go. We may be of service to them in that way just not as keeping them as pets you know?
But I guess living with people may have a certain effect on them which may include leading to the potential of them becoming 3d candidates.
Well, you are here now, and you probably take good care of your cat as you promised, and that is what important. We all have lessons, including our furry friends, and we can't possibly know what exactly will happen or when, but we can make the best with what we have now, and with the time that is available to us. I think that if what C's said is true, and lower creatures are somehow assisted in their progression by being near those who are on a higher level, the best thing you can do for your kitty is to work on yourself and trust the Universe to do the rest.
Funny idea that I could be the one to assist my cat with his own progression. Never thought of this.

2D pets can exist among 3D humans, why can't 2D pets exist among 4D humans?
I have no idea, but if my dog can't come with me, I'm not going anywhere!
I can't imagine that gaining more psychic strength and greater compassion and consideration for others should require or motivate one to abandon one's 2D companions. If anything, the opposite should be the case, such that one will become closer to them and become even better able to care for them.
Thank you for comforting me.

There are a lot of interesting discussions about animals in the 'Our 2d Friends' section of the forum, you might enjoy reading through some of the threads there :).
Thanks for suggesting! :D

The Wave End of Chapter 2:
The following excerpt from the Cassiopaean Transcripts brings up a very interesting idea. The Cassiopaeans have suggested that there is a soul evolution, which is facilitated by the works of higher densities. Apparently, souls “grow.” After eons as say, rocks, they evolve to become plants. After aeons as plants, they evolve to become lower animal life forms. After some period as this or that type of animal, they may graduate to a higher or more intelligent animal which has some sort of interaction with human beings, and after numerous incarnations of this type of interaction, they advance to become the “lower level souls” of humanity. At this point, they begin incarnative experiences through the human cycle in third density until they come to the point of graduation to fourth density.

March 4, 1995

Q: (J) Is there any significance to the fact that one of our cats has been looking like she is really trying to tell us something?

A: One of your cats, no, make that 2 of your cats, are close to transition to 3rd level.

Q: (T) Sabrina’s moving up in the world, she’s going to get a promotion! (J) What’s going to happen to her when she hits third? She’s going to be a human?

A: Yes.

Q: (J) Wow. (T) When she moves from cat to human, her cat body will die?

A: Yes. We mean at next incarnation whenever that occurs.

Q: (T) Two of our cats? They are third density “candidates” like we are fourth density candidates?

A: Exactly.

Q: (L) Does that mean that when a person is a fourth density candidate that they have to leave their body to go to fourth density?

A: Yes, unless they are in the body when the wave arrives.

I just try to continue on my path - taking it one day after other. :)
 
It is the hardest thing for me to acknowledge that we are really going to leave our bodies, and die, so to speak. Upon analyzing, it is the potential suffering of our animals that I find the most difficult. As I ask myself, if letting my pets live on their own terms, is not only necessary for their own evolvement but my own, can I let go of attachment? Can I give to the best of my ability without interfence? Can I know what is the best for them, observing my own self?

An example would be a place that does not allow your pet to live on the premises. You have the pet for 13 yrs or 13 days. Does it make a difference to you? What would be the circumstances that would alter your actions, if any? What if you were taking care of your sick mother and the landlord would not allow your pet? And your funds were limited? Maybe hard call. We don't know until were called to make the decision. Our attachment in the guise of love can be harmful. The thought of anyone with my dog is beyond me. It feels like I'd rather die. I will do the most loving thing providing I am honest and awake.

I have noticed, not always, but when I make a decision that is unselfish, and am feeling agonized , sometimes I am the most unselfish. I can't predict the future outcome, but my arrival at the decision has the best possible outcome for the other.I have been there. I still cry even though the rescue bird is fine. It is that the bird showed love that makes me want more. Therein lies the deception. Being with other birds seems to be what the bird needs to flourish and not be dependant on 1 human. Its not black and white, only one circumstance. No rights and wrongs.

I have dealt with deaths of many, many pets, as I love and take care of animals to the best of my ability. There were times when I was younger when I did not, I am sorry and devastated to this day to say I did not put the animal first. I have to live with that knowledge, and it rips my heart out every time I think of it. Maybe someone else would not think it so bad to let a cat live in a house being terrorized by a dog, but that happened. I have resolved that with services I give now, and will continue to, without guilt. I was selfish, and an animal paid. It did not have to. Maybe, obviously, it was the animals lesson too.

I rescued an animal that looked just like that lovely cat, who lived along time. It stayed outside for 1 yr til it trusted me. Then he stayed forever This scared cat let me pick him up, stretch him, became entirely fearless of me. A cat that lived outside for anyones guess. I hope we all consciously help each others growth, and find the forgiveness it takes for us not to sit in fearful guilt. I love them and don't want to make them prisoners. I believe their energy is always with me, and is part of who I am in 1D, 2D, 3D, and all D's.
 
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