What's happening in Serbia

[Nević Nenad]

I decided to start new thread, because "posible war between Serbia and Kosovo", are very wide and not precise. I copied the name from "what's happening in Germany" thread.


Novak Djokovic gave his support to student protest in Serbia, which are on the route to culminate in the whole nation protests and strike. Djokovic said: "Serbia have great potential in educated young people. Their voice must be heard. I'm with you."




In the meantime Vutchich succeed to offend Dr. Nestorovich. One of the country's prominent medical doctor who is regarded as "the falks doc". He was in "crysis team" in the begining of Covid scam, but was expelled as "anti vaxer". Last year he managed to form his own party, which is nationalistic and traditionalistic but still very small.

Вучић о Несторовићевим решењима за излазак из кризе: Преселио се код ванземаљаца

То је неко ко се заклињао Русији на верност, али се преселио код ванземаљаца, али добро, тако то иде, рекао је шеф државe

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Also, the so called "government", all of a sudden decided to start winter brake for high schools earlier this year. In attempt to stop high schools students and professors to join university students and professors in protesting.

Đaci odlaze ranije na zimski raspust: Hoće li biti vremena da se zaključe ocene

S obzirom na to da su mnoge škole, na poziv četiri reprezentativna sindikata, odlučile da sutra, 20. decembra, nastava u školama bude obustavljena, ostaje samo ponedeljak kao radni dan. Nastavnici kažu da je poslednja nedelja bila planirana za kontrolne provere i pismene zadatke

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Articles translated to english via Google. If you dont see it translated, click on the link and it should he translated then.

 

[Nević Nenad]

The biggest peaceful protest so far, of university students, professors and workers in educational system with agricultural workers was held in Belgrade's Slavia square. Protest was held despite the efforts by authorities to stop it, with blocking and canceling transport system in whole of Serbia and especially Belgrade.

The oficial reason for protest is involvement of the authorities in the death of 15 people in Novi Sad's (second largest city) railway station. The real reason is that people is fed up with the overall state in the country, with the mafia style authorities as the main culprit for it.

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Завршен протест на Славији (ВИДЕО)

Према проценама МУП-а на скупу је било присутно око 29.000 грађана

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Click on the links, it should be translated.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Things are happening at a accelerated speed. I thought that it would need at least ten days or so for this to show to be a lie, but its already out. US ambassador to Serbia, and probably the main Vuthich's handler Hill (Clinton - Obama clan) confirms that there is no sanctions for NIS (Naftna Industrija Srbije, Oil Industry of Serbia) in plan.

Hil: Nema najave da će biti uvedene sankcije NIS-u

Kako je rekao, kada su Rusi kupili NIS, u Vašingtonu je zbog toga postojala zabrinutost

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Hill: There is no announcement that sanctions will be imposed on NIS​

The United States Ambassador to Serbia, Christopher Hill, stated today that there is no announcement that sanctions will be imposed against the Oil Industry of Serbia, but that the US is concerned because it is the only refinery in Serbia that is majority-owned by Russia.


As he told RTS, when the Russians bought NIS, there was concern in Washington.

"Russia continues to wage war against Ukraine, which is barbaric, because this is the 21st century, and it's still going on. There are concerns that NIS in Russian hands is financially helping Moscow in the war in Ukraine. That needs to be looked at," Hill said.

Recall that Hill had previously accused Russia of not investing in Serbia since the takeover of NIS, to which the Russian embassy reacted by publishing two photos : of the NATO bombing of the refinery in Pancevo and a photo of what the refinery looks like today after the Russian takeover.

"We will see what the outcome will be. I want to assure you that the final decision will not affect the Serbian economy in any way. We are very interested in Serbia continuing to have a very successful economy, the good growth rate that has been achieved, and we want that to continue," Hill stressed.

Speaking about the EXPO27 World's Fair, Ambassador Hill said that the US has committed to providing funds for a substantial country pavilion at the World's Fair.

It is interesting that ambassador Hill said there is no need for Serbia to be afraid of financial instability, everything will be OK. Which is quite the opposite of that what Vutchich spoke only 4-5 days ago.

In connection to the students' and people's protest in Serbia which are ongoing, it is worth noting that for now there is no any reaction from Russia or from the West. Total silence from both. So far, with most of the protests there would be press release, even from Maria Zakharova or Peskov which would explain that is one more colored revolution in attempt. Usually followed by the West's release which would say that is not the true and that's colored revolution but organized by Russia. This time there is only silence from both sides. Its like all are refrained as not to give Vutchich material for sniping and distraction which he were using a lot.

Vutchich did made attempts and traveled to Brussels, and even talked with Lavrov today, but there is no mention of that on their corresponding press portals (RT for example, as it was numerous times till now). In my subjective view it looks as both of them are "sold him down the river".


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[Z...]

What Russian media say about Vucic is pretty spot on as far as I can see. Unfortunately video is only in Russian with Serbian subtitles.

 

[Nević Nenad]

What Russian media say about Vucic is pretty spot on as far as I can see. Unfortunately video is only in Russian with Serbian subtitles.

it is posible to set CC auto translate to english. Not 100% perfect, but you can get the picture.

 

[Ivan`88]

Hill: There is no announcement that sanctions will be imposed on NIS​

The United States Ambassador to Serbia, Christopher Hill, stated today that there is no announcement that sanctions will be imposed against the Oil Industry of Serbia, but that the US is concerned because it is the only refinery in Serbia that is majority-owned by Russia.

It looks like another „totalitarian tiptoe“in action.If we assume that they have plan to put sanctions to NIS they must go slowly,step by step oherwise they would provoke a reaction from the people.First step is to say that they dont want to put sanctions.When people hear that immediately appers idea that might be sanctions.In this way they accustome people to the idea.And then trough news they keep repeating until is the right time to say“we goona put the sanctions“and finnish the plan without peoples reaction.

We see that many times,especialy in balkan,it would be interesting to see if that happens in this case.

 

[Nević Nenad]

First step actually was when Vutchich announced US sanctions on NIS last week. (and he alone). We discussed a little bit on that here:

Post in thread 'Possible war between Kosovo and Serbia?'

Dec 21, 2024

BTW, I think that they got it wrong there. The "western" Balkan, as the EU and the globalists call it politically in recent years are all on Balkan, except Greece. Greece is, I guess the "eastern" Balkan. The whole thing is nonsense, and doesn't correspond to any real, geographical or political situation on Balkan peninsula.

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[AzarHyun]

Total silence from both. So far, with most of the protests there would be press release, even from Maria Zakharova or Peskov which would explain that is one more colored revolution in attempt. Usually followed by the West's release which would say that is not the true and that's colored revolution but organized by Russia. This time there is only silence from both sides. Its like all are refrained as not to give Vutchich material for sniping and distraction which he were using a lot.

Захарова: Запад дестабилизује Србију, подржавамо братски српски народ

Русија захтева да се прекине мешање у унутрашња питања суверене државе, поручује Захарова

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Western countries are making plans to destabilize the internal situation in Serbia, using mechanisms inspired by "colored revolutions" and putting pressure on the country's legitimate authorities, said Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova.

"We are considering what is happening in Serbia in the context of the West's plans to destabilize the situation in the country. They are trying to push its leadership to the limit where it will have to choose: to continue its policy in favor of its people or to turn to the path of agreement," the statement published on the diplomatic service's website said.

According to her, the provisional self-governing bodies in Pristina, with the support of the US and the EU, are making efforts to create unbearable conditions for the Serbian population in Kosovo, which is actually an attempt to push them out of the region.

"Another blatant case is the attempt to prevent the largest Serb party in the province, the 'Serbian List', from participating in the elections for the Kosovo 'parliament', and the party has long been the target of vile unfounded attacks by the Albanian ultranationalist 'prime minister' of the so-called Kosovo, A. (Albina) Kurti, and his accomplices," Zakharova assessed.

She stressed that the task set was to weaken the 'Serbian List' and then completely remove it from the political scene.

"Judging by some information, A. Kurti is planning new interethnic incidents during the New Year and Christmas holidays, for which responsibility has been publicly placed in advance on the Serbian party and the Orthodox community in the province," the spokesperson stated.

She added that these actions are a gross violation of fundamental rights and freedoms of citizens and pose a threat of a sharp escalation of the situation with the most terrible consequences in the region.

"Western capitals still have the opportunity to influence their protégés in Pristina and prevent political reprisals against representatives of the Serbian community. We strongly support friendly Serbia and the fraternal Serbian people of a sovereign state," Zakharova said.

She concluded that Russia demands an end to interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.

"Serbian List" is the strongest Serbian party in Kosovo and Metohija, and representatives of that party have repeatedly emphasized that "Serbian List" is the target of attacks from Pristina, because it represents the interests of the Serbian people.

 

[Nević Nenad]

"Serbian List" is actually Vutchich's party, but in Kosovo. Gained power after the assassination of real Kosovo's Serbs leader Oliver Ivanovic. Consists mostly of local criminals and used to get Kosovo's Serbs under Prishtina's rule. Before "Serbian List", Kosovo's Serbs didn't have representatives in Kosovo administration. For the simple reason that they didn't want to recognize Kosovo as independent state. With the murder of Ivanovic and introducing Vutchic's "Serbian List", they were forced to do that.

Worth noting, Zakharova statement is pretty pale. Especially in comparison with her statement exactly year ago (to day). Also, the statement in its content is in context of Kosovo, and its relation with Serbia and the West, not as a broad fight against the color revolution in Serbia, as it was last year's.

But, as such, its taken over by Vutchich and as usual spined around (he's editor in chief of all media in Serbia), in attempt of distracting serbian people from problems and their revolt. As usual, Croatia and others around Serbia are working against Serbia and he will save Serbia. Also the West is against Serbia because of Putin, and he is really fighting against colored revolution in Serbia, and so on....

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Vučić: Pritiskaju nas oko Kosova i Metohije zbog Putina

Potrebno im je rešenje da bi Putinu rekli nemoj da se pozivaš na kosovski presedan, jer smo napravili bilateralni dogovor između Beograda i Prištine

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BTW, Serbia passed the moment when its relevant is it colored revolution or not. Or even important. Nothing can be essentially changed or swayed on some side in both situations. So, ironic, but Vutchich really did fight off colored revolution by his doings, even if that wasn't his intention

I think we are listening to his swan song now, or more likely "swan spin". At least for people in Serbia. He's done, probably also for the West, because they cant control any country indirectly when the country isn't there anymore (thanks to Vutchich it isn't) and the people are in constant revolt. US ambassador didn't say last week anything that could help Vutchich, as he usually does. And I think this is the last hand that he will get from Russia. That's why its so pale. Of course, he could stay in power more, but not much longer, people doesn't want him, and the more time it takes, the more violent happening it will be.

 

[caballero reyes]

Nevic Nenad said reply 218:
BTW, I think that they got it wrong there. The "western" Balkan, as the EU and the globalists call it politically in recent years are all on Balkan, except Greece. Greece is, I guess, the "eastern" Balkan. The whole thing is nonsense, and doesn't correspond to any real, geographical or political situation on the Balkan peninsula.
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A lot of misinformation and nonsense everywhere in the world.
Here in Mexico it is thought that these regions are already stabilized, but it seems that they are not.

The political plans of the US president Trump is to balkanize America as was done in the former Yugoslavia.
It turned out to be much more ambitious than expected.

 

[iamthatis]

Nevic Nenad said reply 218:
BTW, I think that they got it wrong there. The "western" Balkan, as the EU and the globalists call it politically in recent years are all on Balkan, except Greece. Greece is, I guess, the "eastern" Balkan. The whole thing is nonsense, and doesn't correspond to any real, geographical or political situation on the Balkan peninsula.
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A lot of misinformation and nonsense everywhere in the world.
Here in Mexico it is thought that these regions are already stabilized, but it seems that they are not.

The political plans of the US president Trump is to balkanize America as was done in the former Yugoslavia.
It turned out to be much more ambitious than expected.

Trump plans to balkanize America?! Says who?

 

[caballero reyes]

Iamthatis said:
Trump plans to balkanize America?! Says who?
…………………………………………….

News about this issue has been appearing in newspapers and with maps for
more than a week now.

I thought this was already well known because news about Trump goes around the world.

Then I will have to look for the reference news.

 

[Joe]

"Serbian List" is actually Vutchich's party, but in Kosovo. Gained power after the assassination of real Kosovo's Serbs leader Oliver Ivanovic. Consists mostly of local criminals and used to get Kosovo's Serbs under Prishtina's rule. Before "Serbian List", Kosovo's Serbs didn't have representatives in Kosovo administration. For the simple reason that they didn't want to recognize Kosovo as independent state. With the murder of Ivanovic and introducing Vutchic's "Serbian List", they were forced to do that.

Worth noting, Zakharova statement is pretty pale. Especially in comparison with her statement exactly year ago (to day). Also, the statement in its content is in context of Kosovo, and its relation with Serbia and the West, not as a broad fight against the color revolution in Serbia, as it was last year's.

But, as such, its taken over by Vutchich and as usual spined around (he's editor in chief of all media in Serbia), in attempt of distracting serbian people from problems and their revolt. As usual, Croatia and others around Serbia are working against Serbia and he will save Serbia. Also the West is against Serbia because of Putin, and he is really fighting against colored revolution in Serbia, and so on....

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Vučić: Pritiskaju nas oko Kosova i Metohije zbog Putina

Potrebno im je rešenje da bi Putinu rekli nemoj da se pozivaš na kosovski presedan, jer smo napravili bilateralni dogovor između Beograda i Prištine

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BTW, Serbia passed the moment when its relevant is it colored revolution or not. Or even important. Nothing can be essentially changed or swayed on some side in both situations. So, ironic, but Vutchich really did fight off colored revolution by his doings, even if that wasn't his intention

I think we are listening to his swan song now, or more likely "swan spin". At least for people in Serbia. He's done, probably also for the West, because they cant control any country indirectly when the country isn't there anymore (thanks to Vutchich it isn't) and the people are in constant revolt. US ambassador didn't say last week anything that could help Vutchich, as he usually does. And I think this is the last hand that he will get from Russia. That's why its so pale. Of course, he could stay in power more, but not much longer, people doesn't want him, and the more time it takes, the more violent happening it will be.

So are you saying the protests in Belgrade are not in any way influenced by external (US/NATO) factors?

 

[Nević Nenad]

So are you saying the protests in Belgrade are not in any way influenced by external (US/NATO) factors?

No. They probably are. Because only they have the means, and its their ways. But, it is strange, because it isn't like previous attempts. And the most important - they don't have a motiv. At least visible one.

All the West wants of Serbia can already have with Vutchich. There is couple of scenarios why the would replace him. Maybe he became rogue, which is highly unlikely. Maybe he became inoperable because the revolt against him in the people is really big, so they need another person to calm down the people and rule more steadily (that was the case in 2012. when they brought Vutchich) But in any case they loose, or more precisely cant have what they have already with Vutchich. The only way to have more influence then they have now would be open military occupation of Serbia.

Russians, for example would gain more with him down, but its non believable that they do that or even have the means in Serbia to do it.

Seems that there is something else, or someone else involved, that I cant understand for now. I really cant believe that the West now do things like that only by automation and so superficially. Maybe they are trying some new form of colored revolution, but even then, it would be totally superficial. As if they don't care anymore.

The difference between this protests and the protests from previous years (from big protests in 2017-18 for example) is that the West now seems to want Vutchich down, but till now they helped him to stay in power.

The mechanism is like this: there is Vutchich, who is big nationalist, rusophile, big fighter for serbian causes, but only "on paper". In reality he did everything what the West wanted of him. To a T. As I already said he is epitome of color revolution, true globalist.

On the other side is "democratic opposition" which is anti nationalistic, more or less anti russian, and will more or less openly do what Vutchich does covertly (and they did that till 2012. when they were in power. And that's why people revolted). And is more openly pro - Western.

And there is people. People want to live better, but not with the price of treason or with the price of join NATO or became slaves of the EU. And that is real in minds of Serbs, because NATO really did killed thousands of Serbs, bombed everything to stone ages, and occupied part of Serbia. And the EU really did rob Serbia through banks and other means. So, when people were not satisfied with Vutchich (or when his treason was greater than his false demagoguery) they took the first reason they could and start to revolt and protest against Vutchic. In 2017. because of the stolen elections, in 2020. because of Covid scam, in 2023. because of the mass shooting in school and lithium mine. Every time, opposition (which BTW changes parties, movements, names, political directions... all the time), would co-opt the protests and drawn it in useless nonsensical actions, which lasts for months.

But, this time, after the collapse of the roof of railway stations and death of 15 people underneath, people started to revolt, the fake opposition tried to co-opted it and failed, and the West for the first time didn't do anything to help Vutchich (or to help opposition to help Vutchich).

I said that it is irrelevant is it colored revolution or not because the goals of colored revolution cant be met in Serbia nowadays. Even if it succeed the West will have less influence then they had so far. The more likely outcome would be some sort of anarchy, which is bad for government, but would be better for people than any kind of corrupted treasonous government.

In "short"

 

[Nević Nenad]

Vutchich: USA will buy North Stream by the end of 2025. In new interview in Handelsblatt.

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

That probably his handlers told him. The same whom he wants to sell NIS.

He also said that "Serbia will be a column of Germany's automobile industry. And will export its lithium only to Germany". What is seen in Serbia as outright provocation and treason, but its only couple of hours old, still didn't sink in. When it do sink, it will be another nail in his political coffin.

Vučić: Nemačka će biti jedina zemlja koju će Srbija direktno snabdevati litijumom

Aleksandar Vučić izjavio je da Evropa gubi na težini na globalnoj sceni, da mora da shvati da se svet promenio i da će se, što pre to učini, oporaviti.

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