Where is Buddy?

Ellipse said:
At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.

The safest way I can think would be to send it via mail (paper letter) to avoid monitoring but it would expose Laura address and it's a problem too.

Send it via PM. I'll copy/paste it into a document and delete it from the forum software. That should be safe enough.
 
[quote author=Laura]Finally, as I have mentioned, I'm thinking about creating a members only forum where this kind of data can be exchanged and people can more freely interact with one another in a safe environment. It's not an exclusionary club, it is just a precautionary one - taking precautions to exclude predators.
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This is a good idea IMO. I've been concerned for Buddy as well. Since to be active means merely to login, an absence could only mean a self-imposed one, no access to a computer, or something worse.

After what happened to Pepperfritz, an opportunity for external consideration is a welcome idea.
 
Laura said:
I wondered, as I was doing it, how many of those individuals might have died and we just didn't know about it. That seems to be the nature of cyber relationships.

Oddly enough, I was thinking about this, this week...

Laura said:
At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.

One thing we could do is to set up a little sub-forum where people who are going to be away for awhile can just post "I'm going on holiday, don't worry about me for two weeks." Others could leave instructions so that if anything happens to them, someone in their family would let us know. Those who are more alone, could send in their contact details to me in a PM with instructions about when we are supposed to get worried about them. (Like: if you don't hear from me for 5 days, something is wrong, please check.)

Thanks so much for doing this. I'll send my information shortly.

I also think the sub forum is a good idea.
 
Laura said:
Ellipse said:
At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.

The safest way I can think would be to send it via mail (paper letter) to avoid monitoring but it would expose Laura address and it's a problem too.

Send it via PM. I'll copy/paste it into a document and delete it from the forum software. That should be safe enough.

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As they say in the forums :D

Actually last few days I am feeling some kind of a need to write some small intro with all my real data (name and such) pictures and everything and to post it publicly on the forum.

Well, I am not so afraid of that any more, and I don’t want to be afraid. But yet again I know that is maybe was not so good idea.
 
Laura said:
Finally, as I have mentioned, I'm thinking about creating a members only forum where this kind of data can be exchanged and people can more freely interact with one another in a safe environment. It's not an exclusionary club, it is just a precautionary one - taking precautions to exclude predators.

After all, we are here interacting in a profound and real way, much more than what can be done out there (at least in my case) and it would be nice to share the necessary information to maintain a bond of union in a safe area.

About Buddy and others seems we have to wait.. maybe next time we can put it into practice
 
Bo said:
Ellipse said:
At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.

The safest way I can think would be to send it via mail (paper letter) to avoid monitoring but it would expose Laura address and it's a problem too.

Regarding your ''avoiding monitoring''.

Can you please tell me how one avoids monitoring from those in high positions? Don't you think that they already know everything about us? I am pretty sure that those in high positions with evil intentions already know everything about us.

What exactly is it that you want to avoid?

Also PTB can have access to mail as well. I'm originally from Iran, and I know for a fact that the government there goes through people's mail, so what makes you think the PTB won't do the same?

I think sending the personal PM to Laura is a great idea. You can never be too cautious these days...
 
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At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.

The safest way I can think would be to send it via mail (paper letter) to avoid monitoring but it would expose Laura address and it's a problem too.

Regarding your ''avoiding monitoring''.

Can you please tell me how one avoids monitoring from those in high positions? Don't you think that they already know everything about us? I am pretty sure that those in high positions with evil intentions already know everything about us.

What exactly is it that you want to avoid?

>Can you please tell me how one avoids monitoring from those in high positions?

To answer I need to know who do you point by "those in high positions?" 3D or 4D ?
 
Laura said:
...I wondered, as I was doing it, how many of those individuals might have died and we just didn't know about it. That seems to be the nature of cyber relationships.
I had been having this same kind of concern a lot lately: what has happened to some people that were on the forum?

Today Buddy came to my mind because I had a topic I was really thinking that might be up his alley to speak about: I just told my family that I no longer share the same belief system with them. They all believe I am in in danger of eternal damnation now and there is great sorrow. I will try share some experiences in some other thread soon, and how it might relate to the Work, and I will ask for some feedback.

Yeah, I like the idea at least Laura knows who we are. I trust her and also those that she trusts.

_Breton_
 
Can you please tell me how one avoids monitoring from those in high positions? Don't you think that they already know everything about us? I am pretty sure that those in high positions with evil intentions already know everything about us.

What exactly is it that you want to avoid?
> Can you please tell me how one avoids monitoring from those in high positions?
By making more complicate their task. If you simply do not send confidential information through the net, they have to used a more sophisticate system to get the info. Is it worth a try ?

> Don't you think that they already know everything about us?
Yes but I use the assumption they use computers to do the job, perhaps with artificial intelligence, but this is certainly no more than advanced data mining methods. So less input data -> less results, more difficulties to do the match. Better: wrong input -> wrong results.

>What exactly is it that you want to avoid?
As much filing as possible.


I think it's better to avoid "unprotect his flank" (I don't know the translation for "préter le flanc") and using his awareness even if we know it's not perfect.
If you have no awareness you put your life on Facebook, if you have a bit you don't, and so on.
 
Laura said:
One thing we could do is to set up a little sub-forum where people who are going to be away for awhile can just post "I'm going on holiday, don't worry about me for two weeks." Others could leave instructions so that if anything happens to them, someone in their family would let us know.
I think this is a great idea. :)

Laura said:
At the most basic level, forum members could send to me their real name and address and phone number and I would keep it safe and, if they "disappear" I could have someone call them and check on them.
Even tho thats not why I sent the info to you Laura, feel free to keep it on file. I always appreciate all you do for us. :flowers:
 
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