Why do we get older and older ?

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That's what I ask myself.
It's been said that's because of the better medical care, better food and prosperity.
But are this really the only answers?
I mean are we really eat healthier today?
And when I think of the acient cultures like Atlantis and I assume that they exist and that they were much more advanced then we are , are they really got only let's say 30 years old? (when such High Culters exist then I think they would have had a lot better medical care, better food and more prosperity then we have)
And we possibly not even must reache that far back, there were civilisations that everybody know that they exist like Egypt, and there are olso indications that they were more advanced then we are.
And could it might be that this are not the mean reasons for it ?
Or more absurdly, we always been get that old?
 
Since we can't live forever (the need to reincarnate to experience the full variety of experiences for our lesson plan and karmic balance), we need some way of killing off the body.

I can imagine a time when the body wasn't so polluted, that aging was not to be feared. Now, for many, it is a time of pain, loneliness and despair.

If, however, you can come up with a better method, I would be more than happy to bring it forward at the next Human Being Biological Management Conference (LOL).

I love the biblical accounts of how so and so lived 500 years. I can't remember how old Moses was supposed to be, but he got up there as well. Sure hope arthritis hadn't been invented back then, or it would have been a long run through the "golden years".
 
anart said:
Why would you think the ancients lived shorter lives than we do?
Pashalis said:
Is it not what we have been told ?

We've been told a lot of lies. And we're not healthier today despite the so called better medical care and food. These days, people are considered lucky to make it into their 80's and be in only fairly good health, which is a shame.
 
It's been said that's because of the better medical care, better food and prosperity.
But are this really the only answers?
I mean are we really eat healthier today?

I do believe prosperity in the western world has helped a lot especially for the generation born after WW2 (at least for me in the UK). Jobs were plentiful and working conditions were better. We ate more wholesome and seasonal food from local and national farms, my mother used lots of oats, barley and legumes to extend the meals, all our meals were home cooked from raw ingredients. We also walked a lot or used public transport (cars were for the rich), and we lost very little school time through sickness, even in those cold miserable winters.

However, I don't think today's generation (present company excluded) will have such long healthy lives as work stress, diet (processed food) and lack of exercise does not add up to healthy living. There seems to be many sick young people today despite the medical wonders, and that also adds to the problem as people are over medicated. It amazes me just how many people take handfuls of pills daily, and I'm not talking about vitamin pills.
 
There is some truth that our lifespan in recent history has indeed been extended. In the dark ages, one would be fortunate to see their 40th birthday. However, there may have been regions in the world not included in Euro-centric history, where people lived much longer.

We have seen a steady increase in average life expectancy over the last 200 years, but we are also being told that the current youth is the first generation that may not outlive their parents.

Gonzo
 
Gonzo said:
.......but we are also being told that the current youth is the first generation that may not outlive their parents.

Gonzo

really? I didn't know that!? Where do you heared that ?
 
Hospitals are always given as an example of superior healthcare.
This is a strange logic.
My observation is that the number of hospitals required in a given
society is directly proportional to the amount of sickness in that society.
If a society is healthy they don't need hospitals!!
 
Here in the states, health is big business. And yes people may be living longer, but are they living a full life? My grandmother lived to 92 years and from around 84 she lived in the care of either assisted living or in a nursing home. So for 12 years her body was alive, but her mind was gone. I would rather live a full and healthy life and maybe die young then live out years of ill health not knowing anything of my former life.

Also I agree with Gonzo's response about this is from an Euro-centric prospective. For example there are people in Siberia that have lived well over 100 for many hundreds of years due to their lifestyle.

I don't see main stream people eatting a healthy diet. On the contrary when shopping at my local market my observations are quite the opposite. Looking at other people shopping carts prove to me that most people's diet consists of processed food.
 
Hi Pashalis,
Since 2004, medical researchers have been saying that the combination of diet, lack of exercise and environmental toxins have shortened children's lifespan.
Examples:
Parents Outlive Children
(_http://searchwarp.com/swa40618.htm)

Kids' life expectancy lower than parents': Report
(_http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Kids+life+expectancy+lower+than+parents+Report/1976117/story.html)

Children's Life Expectancy Being Cut Short by Obesity
(_http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/health/17obese.html)

A simple Google search with the following terms should yield ample results:
"Parents outliving their children"

Or

"Generation"+"life expectancy"+"parents"+"children"

Gonzo
 
I remember that Ra said that people's life span deteriorated with time because of the loss of polarity, and I assume probably because of changes in cosmic radiation.

From Cassiopedia:

Steiner describes the Atlantean age as being an ancient epoch when the astral and physical world largely interpenetrated, where the Earth was not yet quite solid and where man had a different, less solid bodily form. The veil was not yet drawn between the world between incarnations and the incarnate world and clairvoyant and psychic perception was commonplace.

Excerpt from Rudolf Steiner's Occult signs and symbols:

Now to another consideration. Everyone who has occupied himself for some time with anthroposophy knows that our earth in its present embodiment has undergone several stages of development. In the far-distant past it was in a fiery-fluid condition. What today is stone and metal flowed at that time as today iron flows in an iron works. The objection that at that time there could not have been any living being does not stand up, because the human body was suited to the conditions of that time. The earth transformed itself out of this fiery-fluid condition into what we call the Atlantean epoch. Our forebears then lived on a continent that today forms the floor of the Atlantic Ocean.

Naturally, these ancestors were quite differently constituted from the man of today. In certain respects they were clairvoyant, an echo of higher stages of clairvoyance. The Atlantean man would not have been able to see an outer object spatially limited. In the early days of the Atlantean evolution, seeing was quite different. When one person approached another, it was not the outline of his form that was perceived. Rather, there arose within him a coloured image that had nothing to do with the outer, but reflected an inner soul condition. He might, for instance, have seen the feeling of revenge in the other and fled from it. In an up-surging red picture, the feeling of revenge expressed itself. The outer seeing of objects was developed quite gradually. What man saw earlier was a kind of astral colour, and the transformation occurred in that man spread this colour over the objects, so to speak. Naturally, this other kind of perception was bound up with the fact that man at that time looked quite different from man today. In the later Atlantean period man, for example, had a receding physical forehead, while the etheric body stood out like a mighty globe. Then physical and etheric bodies drew together and when both joined together behind the forehead, between the eyes, man had come to an important moment in his evolution. Today, man's etheric head just fits the physical one. This is still not so with the horse, but as the human head changed, other members also transformed themselves. Gradually man's present bodily form emerged. Think vividly back into the end of the Atlantean epoch. Man still had a kind of clairvoyance; the air was saturated with water vapour. In this dense watery air, sun and stars could not be perceived; a rainbow could never have come into being; thick, heavy mist masses covered the earth. Hence it is that the myth speaks of Niflheim, of a mist-home. Then the waters that were so much spread out in the air, condensed. They covered Atlantis. The Flood signifies the mighty condensation of the mist masses into water. When the water separated itself from the air, our present kind of perception came about. Man was only then able to see himself when he saw other objects around him.

The physical body shows many regularities that have a deeper meaning. One of these is the following. If one were to make a chest the height, width, and length of which were in relation of three to five to thirty, the length corresponding to a body length, then the height and width would also correspond to the body's proportions. in other words, herewith the proportions of a normally organized human body are given. when man emerged from the Flood of Atlantis, the proportions of his physical body corresponded to these measures. This is expressed in the Bible in a beautiful way in the following words:

“And God commanded Noah to build a chest three hundred ells long, fifty ells wide, and thirty ells high.” (I Moses, 6-15). In these measurements of Noah's Ark we have stated exactly the measurements for the harmony of the human body. When we came to explain the reasons therefore, we shall be able to look more deeply into the meaning of these biblical words.

From E.Cayce:

In the period, then - some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India [See 364-3, Par. R2] - there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius [?], who had first NOTED that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much RATHER of the nature of THOUGHT FORMS, or able to push out OF THEMSELVES in that direction in which its development took shape in thought - much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake, in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for that as builded or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set - much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red, or the mixture peoples - or colors; known then later by the associations as the RED race. These, then, able to use IN their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as has been followed more closely in that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others
 
I don't know much about Atlantis. What I have gathered is that it was very STS.
Even if they did have better medical health care than nowadays I don't think everyone would have benefit from it.
It might have been a similar system we have today where health care is expensive and pharmaceutical corporations seem to care more about money instead of people's welfare.

As for living longer lives nowadays than a couple centuries ago. I agree with Bluestar.
I don't think our brains are equipped for handling the longer lifespans and while people are physically living longer the mind starts to wither.
I've heard others say 'it is like they are children again,they need to be told and shown how to do things' about their older relatives.
It is hard for some to adjust to the change of independence to dependence in old age, having basic needs such as walking, dressing, eating etc that most when young take for granted handled by a health carer can be upsetting for them.
I don't think humans are built for having too long lives and at some point there is a time we need to pass on and head to 5D.
 
anart said:
Why would you think the ancients lived shorter lives than we do?

anart how long people live before ? today 85 years - before 1,000 years ?

I'm just wonder how long they live.
 
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