Why I value Laura's work

I wasn't sure where the most appropriate place to post this at so I chose this place since it covered a bit of the topics listed.

Like I said in my introduction, I never placed a lot of weight on the accuracy or good intent that comes from channeled material. But the more transcripts that I read, the closer my jaw dropped to the floor.

First, I need to bore you guys with a little bit of background info that I will try to keep short. I started suffering from major panic attacks when I was 14 until I was 26. I was a devout Catholic so I tried to pray the "demonic" attacks away, since that was how they were viewed from my parents and our Priest.

I was no saint but I certainly had not done anything that should have exposed to me to such attacks. Well, after I graduated, I moved away from home to attend a university and I had my first spontaneous out of body experience (OOBE). It scared the crap out of me and I believed that I had died.

I was dreaming and I distinctly remember rolling over in my dream and falling onto the floor. I remember both hearing and feeling the thud of hitting the ground. As I opened my eyes everything was normal until I looked at the couch that I had been asleep on. I was still there, lying on it only I was also sitting on the floor looking at my body!!

For a true believer like me and someone who was completely unaware of the OOBE phenomenon, this could only mean one thing. I was dead!

Scared out of my mind, I began to cry (they felt like real wet tears) and I was wondering where my guardian angel or loved ones were since I thought they would be escorting me to heaven. When it became obvious that they were not coming, I began to pray feverishly begging for forgiveness and all that jazz but to no avail.

This could only mean that I was not not going to heaven and that hell was the only alternative. To a true believer such as myself, I can't imagine anything worse and words can't convey the soul shattering heartbreak and...well, to be honest with you, I felt betrayed.

To make a long story short, I was shown many things that night by a being that would only call herself a ray from the light and that I was not dead and that I would soon be waking up.

A short while later, I had my second spontaneous OOBE and I was determined to learn how to intentionally have them on my own.

I wanted to share that background info because over the next 13 years of having OOBE, I have seen and learned many lessons and for the most part, the are almost completely in line with Laura's channeled material.

In the interest of brevity, I will just list a few of the things that I have learned from my OOBE that are congruent with Laura's work. They are in no particular order of importance.

1. We all start out as lower density life forms that learn and evolve into higher forms. It can take many lifetimes to learn and some do it quicker than others. Some of the lives we live aren't always human as we understand it.

2. We have been engineered along the way by other beings that do not have our best interests in mind.

3. There is without a doubt a shadow government and almost every major political event on the world stage id manipulated by this SG.

4. While we are helpless to prevent their plans, their plans are ultimately hopeless.

5.Since I'm a smoker and cancer runs rampant in my family, I wanted to quit. I was advised against it. This actually caused me to doubt the info I was receiving even though I was shown why I shouldn't.

6. I was considering to become a vegan and was strongly advised not to.

7. I have had more than my fair share of precognitive events though nothing significant, that is to say unless they happened to you personally. Though, I have done nothing to learn how to control this ability and just allow them to occur.

8. Probably the most important common theme is the Knowledge protects.

There are many, many more things but these are just a few and I haven't finished reading all the transcripts and I plan on reading her books ASAP.

Anyways, i just wanted to share with you guys why I feel that the work Laura is doing is so very important though there is probably nothing that can be done to open the eyes of everyone. My panic attacks stopped almost immediately after I started doing some breathing exercises that my guide showed me. We are not learning anything new so much as we are relearning knowledge that has been systematically stripped from us.

Thanks for reading guys and gals. :) :cool2:
 
Amen so to speak. Laura has opened my eyes as well and I will be forever grateful to her for it.

Alas, smoking doesn't agree with me, though I do miss it every day :(
 
Very interesting post, astrozombie. Thank you for sharing.

As far as breathing exercises go, if you haven't yet, take a look at the breathing exercises put together by Laura called Eiriu Eolas. It has helped many, many people here on the forum and elsewhere.

Also, reading the Wave series will help put the transcripts into context. You can read it for free here. Or if you would rather help Laura out, you can purchase the books here. :)

I would like to add that even though, so far, things from your "teacher" seem to line up with Laura's insights, please keep your eyes and ears open, we are easily deceived by those whom we see as "light beings" as those of sts stature can masquerade as anything they like. And lies also go down smoother wrapped in truth.
 
Hi astrozombie, I agree with what Nienna wrote to you about reading not only the transcripts. And I like to add that Lauras work is not only about channeling, to be specific the channeling part could be understood as 10% inspiration and research work 90%, that means reading, comparing adding knowledge...

Eventually this video may give you some further hints: Knowledge and being

Anyway, take care and if you have any questions feel free to ask and or use the search function of the forum.
 
Part of the evaluation process is "by their fruits you shall know them." So far, your "beings" sound okay to me!
 
Thanks for the replies!

I am a ferocious reader and will be getting to Laura's books very soon but I'm sure you can all understand my fascination with her transcripts.

I got a friend interested in this site as well but she quickly dismissed it because she's one of those that has to have every prediction happen as it was predicted and she thinks that giving something a time frame of 16 years to happen is akin to to just playing the odds. I explained to her that for beings that exist outside of our illusion of time ,such as the C's, a decade may as well be a minute from now.

Besides life is about learning lesson and to know things in advance robs you of the emotions and reactions that you would have genuinely felt and so the lesson is wasted.
 
astrozombie said:
I got a friend interested in this site as well but she quickly dismissed it because she's one of those that has to have every prediction happen as it was predicted and she thinks that giving something a time frame of 16 years to happen is akin to to just playing the odds. I explained to her that for beings that exist outside of our illusion of time ,such as the C's, a decade may as well be a minute from now.

I don't think that's the crux of the problem with predictions. In a world where 8 billion people can and do influence the course of events on an ongoing basis in terms of what they do or do not do at any given moment, how can anyone, light beings or not, expect to give definite predictions?
 
I don't think that's the crux of the problem with predictions. In a world where 8 billion people can and do influence the course of events on an ongoing basis in terms of what they do or do not do at any given moment, how can anyone, light beings or not, expect to give definite predictions?

Very true.

But in any case, a person that looks to the accuracy of predictions as the only indicator of the value of the information is going to trip on their own shadow when just a little attention to the detail that was also presented could have just as easily prevented a fall.
 
Interesting post astrozombie, I enjoyed reading about your experiences and lessons, by what you told they really seem congruent with the Cs and Laura's work.

You may also find helpful the Cassiopedia / Sott Glossary, which I often turn to when learning something new around here or just to revisit old concepts: http://cassiopedia.org and http://glossary.cassiopaea.com (I'm not sure if either one is more updated than the other, it seems that both have the same content with slightly different formats).
 
astrozombie said:
I got a friend interested in this site as well but she quickly dismissed it because she's one of those that has to have every prediction happen as it was predicted and she thinks that giving something a time frame of 16 years to happen is akin to to just playing the odds. I explained to her that for beings that exist outside of our illusion of time ,such as the C's, a decade may as well be a minute from now.

Yeah, we kinda started with that illusion too: that prophecies should be the "test". We found out pretty quickly that its not only NOT a test of the "good guys", it can be evidence of the "bad guys" when a prediction is made and it comes true exactly and on the date and so forth.

session 26Nov94 said:
Q: (L) In terms of these Earth Changes, Edgar Cayce is one of
the most famous prognosticators of recent note, a large
number of the prophecies he made seemingly were erroneous
in terms of their fulfillment. For example, he prophesied
that Atlantis would rise in 1969, but it did not though
certain structures were discovered off the coast of Bimini
which are thought by many to be remnants of Atlantis.
These did, apparently, emerge from the sand at that time.
A: Example of one form of symbolism.
Q: (L) Well, in terms of this symbolism, could this be
applied to the remarks you made about the two little boys
who were missing in South Carolina.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And the symbolism was that you were reading the event
from 3rd density into sixth density terms and then
transmitting it back into 3rd, and while the ideation was
correct, the exact specifics, in 3rd density terms, were
slightly askew. Is that what we are dealing with here?
A: 99.9 per cent would not understand that concept. Most are
always looking for literal translations of data. Analogy
is novice who attends art gallery, looks at abstract
painting and says "I don't get it."
Q: (L) Well, let's not denigrate literal translations or at
least attempts to get things into literal terms. I like
realistic art work. I am a realist in my art preferences.
I want trees to look like trees and people to have only
two arms and legs. Therefore, I also like some
literalness in my prognostications.
A: Some is okay, but, beware or else "California falls into
the ocean" will always be interpreted as California
falling into the ocean.
Q: [General uproar] (F) Wait a minute, what was the
question? (L) I just said I liked literalness in my
prophecies. (F) Oh, I know what they are saying. People
believe that California is just going to go splat and that
Phoenix is going to be on the seacoast, never mind that
it's at 1800 feet elevation, it's just going to drop down
to sea level, or the sea level is going to rise, but it's
not going to affect Virginia Beach even though that's at
sea level. I mean... somehow Phoenix is just going to
drop down and none of the buildings are going to be
damaged, even though its going to fall 1800 feet... (T)
Slowly. It's going to settle. (F) Slowly? It would have
to be so slowly it's unbelievable how slowly it would have
to be. (T) It's been settling for the last five million
years, we've got a ways to go in the next year and a half!
(F) Right! That's my point. (T) In other words, when
people like Scallion and Sun Bear and others say
California is going to fall into the ocean, they are not
saying that the whole state, right along the border is
going to fall into the ocean, they are using the term
California to indicate that the ocean ledge along the
fault line has a probability of breaking off and sinking
on the water side, because it is a major fracture. We
understand that that is not literal. Are you telling us
that there is more involved here as far as the way we are
hearing what these predictions say?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Are we understanding what you are saying?
A: Some.
Q: (T) So, when we talk about California falling into the
ocean, we are not talking about the whole state literally
falling into the ocean?
A: In any case, even if it does, how long will it take to do
this?
Q: (LM) It could take three minutes or three hundred years.
(T) Yes. That is "open" as you would say.
A: Yes. But most of your prophets think it is not open.
Q: (J) Yeah, because they think they have the only line on
it. (T) Okay. So they are thinking in the terms that one
minute California will be there and a minute and a half
later it will be all gone. Is this what you are saying?
A: Or similar.
Q: (T) So, when we are talking: "California will fall into
the ocean, which is just the analogy we are using, we are
talking about, as far as earth changes, is the possibility
that several seismic events along the fault line, which no
one really knows the extent of...
A: Or it all may be symbolic of something else.
Q: (L) Such as? (J) All the fruitcakes in California are all
going to go off the deep end together. (L) Symbolic of
what?
A: Up to you to examine and learn.

And:

session 1July96 said:
Q: (P) I would like to know about the apparitions of the
Virgin Mary at Conyers, GA, as well as this book "Mary's
Message to the World" and all the other messages about the
End Times that are coming out all over?
A: The forces at work here are far too clever to be
accurately anticipated so easily. You never know what
twists and turns will follow, and they are aware of
prophetic and philosophical patternings and usually shift
course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed
futures.
 
Unless one has had some sort of eye-opening experience firsthand or was not brainwashed from birth, it can be very hard to convince someone that we are not on a fixed timeline. The fact that everything that has been, is now, and will ever be exists simultaneously is not an easy concept to wrap your head around. I can't say that I completely understand it myself but the cliche, I am only human, does apply.

I was such a scoffer of all this "new age hippy crap" that no one close to me to understand how I could change so rapidly. Many of my friends and some family actually wanted nothing to do with me for a good while. I quickly learned that my earth shaking revelations do not equate to even a whisper in the wind for most. And besides, anything that could make such a dramatic change in the perfect alter boy had to come from the devil himself.

Once I stopped my evangelism and they slowly saw how I was becoming more spiritual than ever, they came around to accepting my new way of seeing things. Though I can never know for sure, my beliefs require a whole lot less faith than theirs.

Interesting post astrozombie, I enjoyed reading about your experiences and lessons, by what you told they really seem congruent with the Cs and Laura's work.

Through some less then subtle synchronicity, I was actually guided to her website and work. If I didn't already know about the detriment and disappointment of having Idols, Laura would have quickly became one of mine. I put no one on pedestals but I can't help but say she must at least be wearing high heels.
 
astrozombie said:
I put no one on pedestals but I can't help but say she must at least be wearing high heels.

{Checking feet... }

Flip flops! :halo:
 
astrozombie said:
Unless one has had some sort of eye-opening experience firsthand or was not brainwashed from birth, it can be very hard to convince someone that we are not on a fixed timeline. The fact that everything that has been, is now, and will ever be exists simultaneously is not an easy concept to wrap your head around. I can't say that I completely understand it myself but the cliche, I am only human, does apply.

This one has also amazed me. Because I think you are right: it IS very difficult for many to grok this rather simple concept. The thing is, it shouldn't be that hard to understand. For example:

1. I am told by some Great Oracle that I will run over a furry little bunny rabbit in my car tomorrow
2. Tomorrow comes, and I decide to walk to the store instead of driving

Oops! I just put the kibosh on that one, didn't I?

Now multiply that by all those entities with free will on our planet... Maybe the rabbit itself decided to go munching stuff somewhere else!

I think it's just a case of people clinging to this "valid prediction" thing because deep down, they really, really, really want to believe that there is some higher force or power that is running the show. Then they can feel that Good will triumph, and they don't have to do anything.

On the other hand, if everything is open, it's kind of like some sort of untamed wilderness, and suddenly one has to start acting more responsibly instead of relying on that "higher power".

In short, it's easier to be a couch potato.
 
astrozombie said:
Anyways, i just wanted to share with you guys why I feel that the work Laura is doing is so very important though there is probably nothing that can be done to open the eyes of everyone.

I really do feel that those people who we love dearly but for whatever reason can't see further then what they've been told are souls that haven't learned or experienced enough to be able to just yet. No matter what your intelligence level is or you life experience has taught you in this terrestrial form, if you don't have it, you just don't have it....yet. I hold out hope for everybody :)

Very interesting post, thanks for sharing your story, it was a great read!
 
I would like to add that even though, so far, things from your "teacher" seem to line up with Laura's insights, please keep your eyes and ears open, we are easily deceived by those whom we see as "light beings" as those of sts stature can masquerade as anything they like. And lies also go down smoother wrapped in truth.

I missed this little nugget of gold the first time around and I have to say that not only are you completely correct, you happen to be correct as well. :D

There really is no overstating this fact.

The being that I have had the most frequent contact with and is what I can only refer to as my guide had actually deceived me purposely.

Since my first OOBEs occurred while I was still a Christian, she appeared to me as a beautiful angel named Sarah. She wore a white robe and had wings minus the halo.

Naturally, my beliefs began to slowly evolve over the years and sometime around 2003, she appeared to me in a totally different form. She was now a "he" whose name was ans always had been Sarak. And if physical appearance is the standard by which one judges beauty than beautiful he was not.

The thing is, I instantly recognized him/her from the energy signature, or more appropriately, the energy that was Sarak. Sarak explained that I no longer needed certain illusions to feel comfortable and couldn't stand being called Sarah and was now happy to take on a much more comfortable image or form. The point concerning the name was in humor of course.

Sarak would answer most of my questions with questions but usually preferred to show me rather than tell. Every conclusion I came away with was my own and Sarak would never outright correct me because lessons stick better for me through trial and error though he would always let me know that my view or interpretation was but one way to look at something. As you can imagine, that can get annoying but that was one part of my ego that needed the most work, having an incessant need for easy and fast results.

It wasn't until recently, that Sarak told me about the current density change though he never stated that we were living in third and would be transforming to fourth. I need to explain why this was really significant to me. I don't always contact Sarak in all of my OOBE but up until four months ago, I had never heard from him unless I was in a full OOBE.

Well, I came across a website that I don't wish to name but let's just say they talk about Andromeda a lot. It was a fascinating read and one day while meditating, I clearly heard Sarak say that the info that site provided was but one way of looking at it. Since Sarak had never came through to me while I was "just" meditating, I took this as a clear sign that I was on to something but I wasn't exactly getting the most accurate data available.

That's not to say that everything here is 100% accurate but the info was given a clear endorsement by Sarak.

Okay, feel free to laugh. I know that a lot of what I just said sounds nuttier than a squirrel's terd but, hey, these were my experiences and they are undeniable to me. It reached a point long ago, that it was far crazier for me to deny that the experiences were real than it was to just accept them.

I AM IN NO WAY trying to imply that I am special or that I am privy to anything. Millions of people have OOBE regularly and I believe that everybody has had at least one or two that they wrote off as just a dream or something else. Most importantly, I am not trying to detract or take any attention away from channeling as a legit source of receiving information. They are just different ways of many that are available to us as consciousness and souls that can help us to evolve but their legitimacy has been systematically stripped from us.

The only "problem" that I had with channeling or Ouija is that you can't see who you are communicating with. But as I just related to you, the same can be said for OOBE because I was clearly seeing what I wanted to see for many years and truthfully, I must acknowledge that that may still be the case.
 
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