Witnessing my own spiritual development through dream symbolism

[Deleted member 8431]

Hi guys!

I wanted to share some dream experience/symbolism that I personally think are very good indicators of my own spiritual development.

Feel free to comment and add thoughts.

I'll list some symbols/experiences and interpret them in regards to myself.

Demons/Evil Spirits

When I was going through drug addiction and serious physical/mental/emotional issues, I would often dream about demons and be frightened to death. As I started to Work on myself (even before discovering the Cass material) I would be less scared by them to the point I finally was able to confront them and ultimately banish them. Fear would give place to strength and courage. Now since I took it one step further, the demon occurrences in my dreams fell down and now I don't dream about them anymore (or perhaps very rarely).

The demons for me represent deep internal struggles, kind of like my own personal "demons".

Aliens

During my dark days and even before when I was younger, I often dreamed about alien grays. For some reason, they had always frightened me whereas every other creature I'd see like in horror movies wouldn't. In my dreams, they would always come for me or to invade the earth and it would also frighten me to death. Last time I had such a dream, I had already found this website and started doing the Work. I was inside the house and I somehow intuitively knew they had arrived and knew they were coming for me again (no visual contact yet). My uncle was with me to defend the grounds (he has helped me a lot during my recovery) and had a shotgun in his hands while I decided to confront them weaponless. So I walk inside the house, come by the stairs and 3 gray aliens were coming down and they were coming for me. I stood there, looked at them in the eyes and confronted them. They stopped moving, kind of like they didn't expect it and were completely unable to go with their agenda. I was there, looking at them and wasn't scared no more.

The aliens may represent other struggles and perhaps programs (since they are often involved in programming).

Negative Humans

I would also often dream of humans that wanted to hurt me. It would usually scare me so I'd run for my life and they would chase me. With time, I started to be able to confront them as well. At some point I would engage in fights with them up until it wasn't required no more. I had such a dream yesterday and this person wanted to kill me or I don't know what. Again, instead or running away, I moved closer to that person, gazing into it's eyes and when I got face-to-face with him I told him to go ahead if he dared to. Then his look went from evil/aggressive to passive and neutral. He couldn't do a thing and was paralyzed by my look so to speak.

These humans represent for me forms of attacks.

Animals

Mainly dogs and cats since I love them a lot. In the past, they would often be aggressive and attack me. With time, they became more tamed and eventually happy and nice with me. The other day dreamed about many animals at once. They were all nice except for a big dog which was menacing and charged towards me. I simply put my hand in front of me as a "halt" sign and the dog just froze and became tamed.

They may very well represent other forms of attacks and or struggles.

Mirrors

I didn't dream so often of mirrors but they would scare me. I didn't want to look at them because I was scared of what I would see. I once dared and saw myself as an evil being so to speak. Not so long ago I dreamed of a mirror and fearlessly gazed into it. What I saw was myself and I looked very peaceful and "healthy looking". No fear involved. Only a peace of mind.

I see the mirror as the reflection of my own-self. Being scared to look at it is being scared to look at myself. Seeing an evil me is seeing how "sick" or "disturbed" I was but at least, I had dared to finally look. Seeing myself as a healthy and peaceful person is sign that I am finally able to look at myself more objectively.

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So that's it. I really now enjoy to monitor my dreams as they are so much a great indicator of what's going on with me. So as much as I changed in life, as much as it is reflected through my dreams. Of course, I still do have "uneasy" dreams from time to time since I am barely starting to Work in a way but I have a much easier time to deal with this and it happens a lot less, and is far less scary.

Feel free to comment, add thoughts and share similar things.

Peace.

 

[SMM]

Similar experiences through dreams.
Particularly with the humans/demons - which I think may be projection of personal demons.

Is there an example of a dream you can give?

 

[PabloAngello]

Interesting series of dreams sir.
Personally I also have a lot dreams of ufo invaders. All the time it is so real and so convincing that I am in shock when I wake up after such a dreams. But all the time I dream about that I have a feeling (when they are close to me, or looking at me) that they are not interested in my person couse some of reason. Like I don't fit for their purposes.

According to your Mirros dreams and "I didn't want to look at them because I was scared of what I would see".
If you think like that, especially if you are at least semi-conscious in a dream, for 99% you will see exactly what you expect (something really scarry in that case). That is nothing weird, it is couse this is a dream world, your are the creator of the story and everything changes with speed of your thougths.

Last dreams you described here are in my opition just a reflection of your personall life and coused by ordering (defragmenting :D) of your mind during sleep process ;)

Cheers!

 

[Diane]

Either I'm understanding the symbolism better or my dreams became less symbolic. My dreams are almost always prophetic dreams.

I share my dreams with my husband most of the time because he's the only one that I can trust not to think I'm out of my mind. He likes to play with the language of the birds a bit too much and can make things far too confusing. So right now we're at odds about my last prophetic dream.

Dream Feb 19th

I had a dream Feb.19th of an old boyfriend, (Owen U.), coming out of the ocean with his arms outstretched, (opening welcoming pose), as you see pictures of Jesus. O.U. had light eyes and shoulder length brown hair. He waded through the water on through the sand on the beach. Through=not walking on top of it, but through it like waist deep in the sand. He was the size of Zeus, or Poseidon like you see pictures of "The Gods". I was inside a beach house with other women. The house had no windows, and I knew we were trapped in the house. O.U. shrank down to our size, appeared in the house and had to give us each a kiss. Normal kiss, nothing too wild. Then he left. I kept trying to escape the house looking for an exit, thought I saw a spot where I could, then I woke up.

I haven't thought of O.U. in probably 20 years. I searched the internet Feb 20th and found him. MUG SHOTS! He had been arrested in Florida in 2009 for Cocaine, and resisting arrest. Yep that was him, looked just like he did years ago, same hair, (shades of grey now), same eyes, height, face shape. Weird...ok so Maybe that's what I was suppose to find out.

Feb 22nd. News flash from our local TV station. Huge Cocaine bust one town over from us. All centered around a golf course and the 76 year old owner of the golf course. 14,000 grams street value of 1.4 million. 20 people arrested.

Ok so HUGE Owen U. who was arrested for Cocaine=Huge cocaine bust. That's how I took it, and that's it. Dream solved all done.

Nope, husband says that can't be it. I say it has to be it. We can have the best discussions about this sort of thing. So he's still playing the word game with the dream...He's got "Omen" for Owen and a host of other spooky things. Me being trapped in the house with other women and finding a way out it means I'm close to putting my quest for the meaning of "The Fall" behind me.

Can't wait to see what he comes up with by tonight. He can make my dreams more fun than I thought they were. ;)

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Similar experiences through dreams.
Particularly with the humans/demons - which I think may be projection of personal demons.

Is there an example of a dream you can give?

Sure!

One of the most terrifying dream I've had happened one of the times I was in rehab somewhere in 2009 (went through several).

I was somewhere out there and looking at a huge and very complex machine that would be there in the air. The parts were rotating all together in a very synchronized way. A bit like the alien machine in the movie Contact or the core machine in Dark City. Only that it was far more complex and had fare more parts moving. I was really impressed by the thing. No other feelings that I can remember.

Anyhow, after a while, I decide to go away and was walking along a brick wall. Then, a hidden door opened and I walked it. When I got in, I fell down and started sliding down a spiral slide. At some point while sliding, I heard someone else falling down upwards and that person was also sliding down. At that moment I'm starting to feel uneasy.

Then I land in a dark and eerie basement. I start to walk in a corridor fearing what is coming down the slide behind me but then, I freeze and somehow turn around to face what's coming. So there about 10-20 m away from me is this ghost-like figure that walks towards me like a zombie. It doesn't make and sound and slowly creeps towards me. As soon as I saw it, I got scared to death, so much that I woke up and feared going back to sleep again. That was terrifying. The worst is that what I saw through that being was me. My own "dark side" if I can express myself like so. All the negativity that I had accumulated inside me during my dark days (hence why I was in rehab).

So that's how I interpret it. I was undergoing a great deal of pressure from the rehab itself (it was really hard) and all my old demons were trying to catch on me. That dream helped me as surprisingly as it may sound.

That marked a point in my spiritual development because I had witnessed (or so do I interpret) the "bad" JayMark and he scared me so much I thought I would die.

I still don't really know what to think of the huge complex machine though.

Peace.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

The other day as I was listening to Dr Turner's conferences and Laura's videos about alien abductions, an important quote came back to my mind which is about transforming fear into anger which seems to be a better option in many cases since some entities seem to feed off fear for instance.

Well last night I dreamed that I was being taunted by bullies and one (the chief) started to threaten me. For some reason I clearly remember he had a green t-shirt. Anyway, I started to feel scared and almost ran away but the quote came back to my mind and I transformed my fear into anger right on the spot. I didn't literally attack or intimidate the guy. I simply walked towards him, showing him I am not pleased with what he does to me and said something like : "oh yeah, what are you going to do?" He then simply backed off and vanished. Then the dream shifted.

When I woke up from this I somehow felt great. As if I had accomplished something again.

 

[SMM]

Last dreams you described here are in my opition just a reflection of your personall life and coused by ordering (defragmenting :D) of your mind during sleep process ;)
Cheers!

I have a handful of these ordering of mind and reflection of personal life dreams - a few everyday events, then a bunch of things that have never physically taken place. How does defragmenting take place.. as in, is it the mind's way of making sense of its content?

The other day as I was listening to Dr Turner's conferences and Laura's videos about alien abductions, an important quote came back to my mind which is about transforming fear into anger which seems to be a better option in many cases since some entities seem to feed off fear for instance.

Transforming fear into anger? Is there a link to the aforementioned i.e. Dr Turner's conferences & Laura's videos about alien abduction? I think I may have ran past one or two before.

Well last night I dreamed that I was being taunted by bullies and one (the chief) started to threaten me. For some reason I clearly remember he had a green t-shirt. Anyway, I started to feel scared and almost ran away but the quote came back to my mind and I transformed my fear into anger right on the spot. I didn't literally attack or intimidate the guy. I simply walked towards him, showing him I am not pleased with what he does to me and said something like : "oh yeah, what are you going to do?" He then simply backed off and vanished. Then the dream shifted.

When I woke up from this I somehow felt great. As if I had accomplished something again.

Reminds me of a dream I had, where a little girl was trying to get into this abandoned house I'd found for shelter from the rain. Outside, I'd had an uneasy feeling of a negative entity/energy close by, seeing faces but never taking a form. I had messages from this woman who conferred with me about a curse, related Saturn/Kronos and the death of her neighbour, & left me with reinforced emphasis on communicating/networking.

As I was falling asleep, a little girl knocked on the window next to a door leading outside. She asked to come in but I said it wasn't my house so I didn't know whether I could let her in. She became angry & starting trying to force her way in through the window, but it seemed as if what she was really after was me. A few moments later she had me by the hand, & not a little girl's grip either. There was another woman now opening the door to her [I thought I was alone in the house] & smiling widely, as if hypnotised, inviting the girl in. The girl was still trying to get to me as I tried to shut both door & window...from confusion came anger. After a while, when she had placed her hand on my back, I told her that she wasn't real as I could feel her hand on my skin - I was in fact dreaming. As soon as I said so, I could feel her hand & eventually woke up with an odd intense sensation on my lower back.

All these females [the two women and the little girl] were white of skin, brown-haired. Brown eyed too.

 

[Palinurus]

Transforming fear into anger? Is there a link to the aforementioned i.e. Dr Turner's conferences & Laura's videos about alien abduction? I think I may have ran past one or two before.

The videos Laura made are called: "UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact" .
It's an 8 part series to be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqoMNnVDH3k

As for Karla Turner, I ran into some difficulty.

We have a thread about her over here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1558.0.html
BTW, the mention of transforming fear into anger starts here, I think: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1558.msg253893.html#msg253893

According to Reply # 5 of that thread there used to be a memorial website on the address http://karlaturner.org/

Going there I discovered that this website doesn't exist anymore in its previous format but has been reformatted or whatever by someone called Jeff Polachek who runs a website under his own name supposedly hosting the Karla Turner materials, but I couldn't get access to it due to some syntax errors.
This is the message I got from my browser (FireFox):

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting '(' in /home/polac3/public_html/includes/framework.php on line 42

So, it seems we'll have to wait until this Polachek fellow gets his act together before we can have access again.

However, some of the original KT pages still seem to be around on the web, like this one for instance: http://www.karlaturner.org/mainpage-vidboxes/panel2.html

And here is a YouTube page with some of her videos (among other things): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzJAKUaRe2E

It seems best for now to use the Way Back machine: http://archive.org/index.php to find all Karla's materials.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[Palinurus]

Just for the record, today the Polachek website seems fully functional again so Karla Turner's works are accessible from here (in right column):

http://www.jeffpolachek.com/about-dr-karla-turner

 

[SMM]

Many thanks for these!

I have come across the 'UFO, Aliens, and Question of Contact' videos - will give them a watch-over.

As for Karla Turner, that's all new to me.
Hmm, time to work my way through the links.

 

[SMM]

After watching all 8 parts, left a little surprised I hadn't seen through enough to acknowledge Karla Turner.
There is sense in what she, & her husband in part 8, says.

It reminded me of many things mentioned in the Wave series, such as:

But, those same aliens we find today, zipping about, sliding in and out of our reality like slippery eels, gazing and probing and communicating all kinds of excuses and scenarios to explain what they are doing based on how gullible or ignorant their victims are, this must be considered also. In other words, what Sitchin and Bramley fail to factor into their arguments is the continuing evidence of interaction and domination from another realm of existence.

From what I remember about reading about the abduction procedure, there was the notion of 'Love Bites'... where the victim becomes enamoured with his captor osit.
In essence, I don't think it's based on fear, but I see how with knowledge that too can be transformed into anger - a part of me is going 'is that possible?' but something tells me it is in this big womb of possibilities. Worth reading some more Karla Turner, watching lectures too; interested in logistics of that.
Helpful indeed :) Thanks yet again.

Sure!

One of the most terrifying dream I've had happened one of the times I was in rehab somewhere in 2009 (went through several).

I was somewhere out there and looking at a huge and very complex machine that would be there in the air. The parts were rotating all together in a very synchronized way. A bit like the alien machine in the movie Contact or the core machine in Dark City. Only that it was far more complex and had fare more parts moving. I was really impressed by the thing. No other feelings that I can remember.

Anyhow, after a while, I decide to go away and was walking along a brick wall. Then, a hidden door opened and I walked it. When I got in, I fell down and started sliding down a spiral slide. At some point while sliding, I heard someone else falling down upwards and that person was also sliding down. At that moment I'm starting to feel uneasy.

Then I land in a dark and eerie basement. I start to walk in a corridor fearing what is coming down the slide behind me but then, I freeze and somehow turn around to face what's coming. So there about 10-20 m away from me is this ghost-like figure that walks towards me like a zombie. It doesn't make and sound and slowly creeps towards me. As soon as I saw it, I got scared to death, so much that I woke up and feared going back to sleep again. That was terrifying. The worst is that what I saw through that being was me. My own "dark side" if I can express myself like so. All the negativity that I had accumulated inside me during my dark days (hence why I was in rehab).

So that's how I interpret it. I was undergoing a great deal of pressure from the rehab itself (it was really hard) and all my old demons were trying to catch on me. That dream helped me as surprisingly as it may sound.

That marked a point in my spiritual development because I had witnessed (or so do I interpret) the "bad" JayMark and he scared me so much I thought I would die.

I still don't really know what to think of the huge complex machine though.

Peace.

I didn't really acknowledge my dark side when I was younger - such things were never explained to me, & if they were, stubbornness didn't allow me to see through or understand. When I started becoming aware of it, & huge anxiety issues [around the time was reading ISOTM], my dreams featured strange creatures & scenarios.

At a consequent semi-turning point, I'd have dreams of being urinated on from the head down by a man who decided to unleash himself on the bus or a big important looking Indian man, whom I have a feeling was part of a dynasty, trying to impregnate me whilst holding me captive - turned him down.

Reminds me of "turning fear into anger" - in fact, the dream with the Indian man was apocalyptic in context with huge complex machines flying & tribal people in huts trying to capture a group of us.

These might have been the neglected personal demons - prior to the aforementioned I wanted to be seen by others as an 'ideal' or 'archetype' & would condemn whatever didn't fit my vision..causing anxiety surrounding my behaviours & communication ability towards others. I'm still imo self-conscious, or have a sort of mental block, in being practical/grounded or about the physical manifestations of my behaviour/words/actions but not to the extent of the old. In other words, I think I projected all my bad aspects - striving for perfection - onto others, & tried to alter their perception or experience to my own ends.
I wonder how many people do so without being aware of such..? :/

As a parting note, finished Secret History of the World last night, took me a while due to re-reading certain parts, but I feel like the whole thing in its entirety may be worth a re-read. It's odd as, at the time I bought it, I was 'hoarding', confused & didn't think that intently or seriously of reading it [maybe the size put me off..?].
What a book! :)

 

[Deleted member 8431]

From what I remember about reading about the abduction procedure, there was the notion of 'Love Bites'... where the victim becomes enamoured with his captor osit.
In essence, I don't think it's based on fear, but I see how with knowledge that too can be transformed into anger - a part of me is going 'is that possible?' but something tells me it is in this big womb of possibilities. Worth reading some more Karla Turner, watching lectures too; interested in logistics of that.
Helpful indeed :) Thanks yet again.

My pleasure.

About the victims becoming enamored (it does happen) with the captor(s), the only thing I can see is deception. In other words, they manipulate you (implement thoughts) so basically that feeling of "love" is either not yours or it is but the "person" you think you are looking at (your mom, dead wife, Jesus etc.) is just an illusion. Of course, we can't prove it but the mountain of evidence strongly suggest that these beings are able to manipulate your consciousness quite easily (as long as frequency matches I guess).

Now are those particular cases based of fear? Good question. Perhaps not all cases are based on fear. But there must be a reason. And perhaps it is because they want the abductee (in those cases) to feel warm/comfortable to further manipulate them into thinking they are a "benevolent race" that is there to help for instance. This seems to be the case among many.

Remember, deception, lies and manipulation are their trade mark.

My thoughts.

I didn't really acknowledge my dark side when I was younger - such things were never explained to me, & if they were, stubbornness didn't allow me to see through or understand. When I started becoming aware of it, & huge anxiety issues [around the time was reading ISOTM], my dreams featured strange creatures & scenarios.

At a consequent semi-turning point, I'd have dreams of being urinated on from the head down by a man who decided to unleash himself on the bus or a big important looking Indian man, whom I have a feeling was part of a dynasty, trying to impregnate me whilst holding me captive - turned him down.

Reminds me of "turning fear into anger" - in fact, the dream with the Indian man was apocalyptic in context with huge complex machines flying & tribal people in huts trying to capture a group of us.

These might have been the neglected personal demons - prior to the aforementioned I wanted to be seen by others as an 'ideal' or 'archetype' & would condemn whatever didn't fit my vision..causing anxiety surrounding my behaviours & communication ability towards others. I'm still imo self-conscious, or have a sort of mental block, in being practical/grounded or about the physical manifestations of my behaviour/words/actions but not to the extent of the old. In other words, I think I projected all my bad aspects - striving for perfection - onto others, & tried to alter their perception or experience to my own ends.
I wonder how many people do so without being aware of such..? :/

As a parting note, finished Secret History of the World last night, took me a while due to re-reading certain parts, but I feel like the whole thing in its entirety may be worth a re-read. It's odd as, at the time I bought it, I was 'hoarding', confused & didn't think that intently or seriously of reading it [maybe the size put me off..?].
What a book! :)

That is quite interesting.

Thanks for sharing.