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I was going to open this thread with a word related to money, but 10 days ago two threads appeared in the forum with reference to the word Money: ‘’The money masters’’ opened by Wrayer, in 2006, where Laura in reply number 3 deals with a topic for the Q F G discussion group, and that it is a very valuable document that MUST be read, some may not have done so because there is so much and varied information that is lost especially for those who have recently entered the forum.

The other thread is: ‘’Money is vital energy’’ opened by Jim Daniels.

It seems that the Guardian Angel inspired members of the forum to return those 2 threads to the present time of the forum, therefore, I only briefly add some details about the Economy which is the topic I wanted to talk about in this thread; I will comment on other matters later.

Economy: from the Greek Oikos (House, Home) and Nomein, from Nomos (law) or the laws that govern a house with its administration or the distribution of its assets.

Here, in the state of Sonora, where the Opata language was spoken, which is of Atlantean origin although very few people speak it today, there are several words that have that root oikos (house), Oikis (being from Okis) refers to “Who stays in his house” preferably to women, and there are other words with that root in the names of the municipalities of the state of Sonora.
The issue of Money together with the word Prejudice seems extremely interesting to me and how money was brought to the present time related to the word Energy we understand that it is something inherent to that word, and that they cannot be separated, like the Two Sides of the Coin of the forceful Biblical phrase referring to God and Caesar, a perfect phrase because it is extremely political and spiritual at the same time.

I have a lot to comment on later in this thread.
 
Autonomy and Economic Inflation.
Two perverse words that have the world distracted and believed in, as if they were divine revelations or fruits of civilization, but it turns out that they are the cause of many problems that politicians and people in general do not even question, like many other words that trap humans like giant sticky spider webs.

Here in the forum there is a very interesting thread about language opened by Chu that deals with the subject from the historical scientific point of view with contributions from the members of the forum about languages that could be very ancient.

The important thing to consider is that languages originate or are formed from bases of Words that are a set of vibrations.
I do not understand how anyone believes that in this 3D world there is something “autonomous”, and the same attitude applies to “economic inflation” which is evidently directed by some “autonomous” organization without any person or country questioning it and then, as a consequence of the acceptance of these words, they become situations, an uncontrollable amount of problems linked to each other that has the world in war, chaos and fear and they forget the causes that originated them.

And also, other “mysterious” words like rituals, elitist initiations, mysterious characters linked to other characters even more mysterious, etc., etc.
 
Possibly Paul knew or sensed the presence of the Grail.

In the title of the video ''Paul's writings, distortions and deeper truths'' and then in the introduction, Laura disarms anyone who promotes some useless controversy:…''the fact that we would like to go through the tetters of Paul with our knowledge of hyperdimensional realities., as we have it from the C's and some speculative, philosophical perspectives to look at Paul's writings keeping in mind translational barriers to see if we could see any intimations or hints of him talking about hyperdimensional realities or referencing any kind of High Strangeness type of things in any of his letters, keeping in mind, of course, that probably most of anything like that, that would have been spoken would have been done in person.'

The first thing that caught my attention was because, from the known world, Paul wrote his letters to those cities and citizens although it was evident that Paul considered them important places and people.

Among those places, the letter to the Ephesians caught my attention because the city of Ephesus in present-day Turkey had the temple of Artemis or Diana as the Romans called her, considered one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world.
It is clear that Paul had a well-defined intention about why and to whom he addressed his letters.

On the site ''Churchofjesuschrist.org'', referring to the letter to the Galatians, it says that Paul wrote it to defend himself from some false teachings that arose in the congregations of that city. which had both Jewish and Gentile believers.
And regarding the letter to the city of Ephesus, ''the city was famous for the magical arts and the occult and the most important cult was directed to the Goddess Diana / Artemis goddess of fertility' ' (WIKI)

From the name of the goddess Diana, many names are derived, such as the Tuata de Danaan and the name of the country Denmark, as well as some female names.

On an internet site a researcher claimed that Diana's name was a modification of the genetic mother, the Sumerian goddess Inana, it seemed like just any opinion but his statement was accompanied by ancient engravings that are on the internet where the naked goddess Diana had her body with many mammary glands, then it is possible that the temple of Diana at Ephesus was a Sumerian Duku or a genetic laboratory. The temple was destroyed by a fire started by Herostratus on July 21, 356 BC.

''Healer of disasters, to Apollo, giver of Light to mortals, Eutychess has erected as an offering [a statue of] the Cretan Lady of Ephesus, the Bearer of Light''

As they are dealing with esoteric matters anyone can interpret the previous sentence and assume that the genetic goddess had the Grail in her possession as a bearer of life through its light.

I will continue later with comments on Laura's thoughts on Paul.
 
Paul the Magnetic.

I already had about 10 pages of notes as a result of having watched the video and also read it, because I had to put the subtitles on and I had to go back to the beginning because I didn't really understand the meaning of words like Jesus, Messiah, Jesus--Christ, Holy Spirit, God, all of this in the context of Paul's letters, but it was like going back to catch flight and thus better understand why I am comparing with two Bibles and with theories about them that I have learned throughout my studies in trying to understand the Bible.
Laura dice : refiriéndose a 1 de Tessalonians versículo 5:

''So it struck me that he said that the glad tidings of preaching came not only in words but olso in it’s own inherents power and in the holy spirit, and it made me wonder if there was some kind of phenomena that accompanied Paul when he was teachings or preaching and if he was doing some kind of laying on hand thing or were they speaking in tongues or whatever could have been going on.'''
Laura tenia varios oyentes en su exposición; this is what one of them said.

''I think it can have that kind of impact on people when someone is channeling, just the words that they say and how they speak.
Well, not how they speak but what they say, like is so truthful in a certain sense that it impacts people who are receptive to it when they heaven't heard anything like that before, you know.

I am not ruling it out but I don’t think it necessarily had to be some kind of phenomenon or anything but rather simply speaking the truth in a very direct and clear way that resonates with the people who are listening ’’
Laura said: well, maybe we should try to find or somebody could take it as a Little research project in researching all the instances of the Pauline Corpus.

My opinion is that Paul shows in his letters that he was born or had developed a great personal magnetism, a quality that some people can have to capture part of that great energy, which can manifest or flow through the Look or the Hands, as the papyrus discovered by Ebers in the ruins of Thebes says: ‘’Put your hands on him, to calm the pain and tell him to go away…’’ quoted by Pascual Fortuny.

It is a possible connection or alignment with what is called the Holy Spirit or Creator God or cosmic mind and, as Paul says:
‘’For what person perceives (knows and understands) what passes through a man’s thoughts except the man’s own spirit within him? ’’.
And speaking of the energy of the body, apart from magnetism and referring to the human mind.

In an article published by Nicolas de Villalpando in his magazine ‘’Oculto’’ No. 17 he speaks of Ectoplasmy as somatic energy, that is, the energy of the body that can become condensed and become visible to the human eye,
Yes, I have seen it, he assures, then Ectocoloplasmy can be done, that is, the idea that I have of a member of a body, of a hand, of a leg, of an object, is shaped and becomes visible…but everything is due to the human mind that directs the energy of the body and externalizes it making it visible.

I'm finishing the article ''Pablo and sex'', I hope to post it tomorrow.
 
THE SKIN, the wonderful organ of 3D, with its heavenly orifices.
Paul and sex in his letters

Throughout the study of the Bible, mainly in Leviticus, there are many words referring to sexual acts, also those called against nature, that is, with hybrid beings or with animals, and in many of these words their meaning is not clearly understood: copulation, cult of the goats/Rites with great gods demons, Degeneration, Fornication, Bodily burning, Abomination, and it has been asked if they were abominable sexual acts or genetic experiments.

On this occasion we refer to Sexual Acts in some of Paul's letters.
Romans 1 verse 26--27
26---For this cause god gave them up unto vile affections for even their women did change the natural use into that desire is against nature.
27--- And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men workimg that which is unseembly, and receiving in themselves that reward of their error which was met.

1 Corinthians 6 verse 9—Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of god ? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor affeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

In order not to make this article long, for now we will refer to what is very fashionable among many men and women, and I say “fashionable” because now it is openly done to have sex between people of the same sex and even to get married.

I do not practice these relationships but I am not going to condemn them because in the Bible and in the letters of Paul it speaks of having indecent relationships but there is a lack of precision in what is done in such acts. Let me explain:

THE SKIN, the wonderful organ of the human being, that part that is or can be the entrances to wonderful worlds or dimensions through its orifices. From the skin inwards and from the skin outwards, and I'm not just talking about sexual matters.
That wonderful protective layer of the body that is susceptible to being excitable and producing so many sensations or what is called sensuality when it is touched, caressed or kissed.

So I don't see where it is abominable, sinful if men or women caress each other's skin, or between them, because that is an exciting and very exciting thing, but Sexual Penetration is something else, if it is not for the act of procreation, if it is not with this intention, that is perhaps where all the accusatory words are produced and have been produced throughout the history of sexuality.

There are many more things to comment on based on Paul's letters, I hope that those who have read them or at least have read some, make some comments.
 
Paul was born in Tarsus, present day Turkey between the year 4 and the year 10 BC,

Paul and his supreme / fundamental verse:
1 Corinthians chapter XV: verse 46:

‘’Howbeit that was not first desire is spiritual but that desire is Natural; and afterward that desire is Spiritual.’’

I have not known that throughout History or in the practice of any religion anyone has given greater importance to this verse / idea of Paul, at least as emphatically as Paul did and I think that Karl Heinrich Marx and Friedrich Engels creators of the theory of Historical Materialism or Marxist theory of history, from there derived this essential idea to elaborate their work Historical Materialism that formed words like Primitive Communism, Feudalism, Capitalism, Socialism, Trotskyism, blacklists, political witch hunts as in the US, etc.
Words/ideas, now disguised, that have been dividing most of humanity ever since.

Karl Heinrich Marx, (May 5, 1818 Trier Germany---March 14, 1883 London, UK) and Friedrich Engels (Barmen-Elberfeld, Prussia; November 28, 1820---London; August 5, 1895),

EDSHU AND MAUI.

Edshu the playful, deceiving divinity Yoruba Anecdote, West Africa.

One day, this strange god was walking along a path between two fields, he saw a farmer working in each of them and he decided to play with them both. He put on a hat that was red on one side and white on the other, green in front and black behind so that when the farmers returned to their village, one said to the other, did you see that old man with the white hat go by? The other answered, “the hat was red,” and the first said, “no, it was white,” “it was red,” his friend insisted, “I saw it with my own eyes you must be blind,” declared the first. “You must be drunk,” replied the other.

The dispute grew and they began to hit each other. When they were about to stab each other, they were taken by their neighbors before the judge.

Edshu was in the middle of the crowd that was watching the trial and when the judge could not decide which side was right, the old deceiver unmasked himself, explained what he had done and showed the hat. ''They had no choice but to fight, he said, that's what I wanted. Sowing discord is my greatest joy.''

This can be compared to the story of the Polynesian deceiver Maui.
 
Nienna said:
I'm just curious, have you read Laura's book, From Paul to Mark: Paleochristianity?
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No, I haven't. I based these notes on a video/conference by Laura about Paul and also on what I've read about him in the Bibles.
In these last notes I just wanted to point out that the authors of the theory of

Historical Materialism have greatly divided the world and consequently produced great conflicts not only between people but between countries up to the present, and I think they could have used great ideas from Paul for their purposes already stated.
 
INTELLIGENCE AND BEYOND.

A very intelligent woman told her also very intelligent partner: In that house that you see there is a great treasure.
Her partner answers: I cannot see that house.
She tells him: Then let's start building it.

A very good answer to encourage the members of the forum towards STO and thus be able to become the owners of the future.

THE SHARP OBSERVATION
Mexicans speak with numbers.
 
In school, in Geography class, we had the task of learning all the capitals of the countries, the main rivers, the main islands, the main mountains, etc.

So we had to learn about countries and territories.

I wondered why it was called Greenland if it was covered in ice, but then I thought that it was covered in ice because of some catastrophe like what happened with Atlantis, but I also thought that there would be vegetation somewhere and I thought this because some researchers claimed that witnesses had seen beyond the ice of PATAGONIA Beings of great stature that lived in very green regions. That is the information I had about GREENLAND.

The magazine I want to comment on refers to the experiences of John Dee (1533 / 1603), a manuscript of a cleric named Abbot Tritemo (1462 / 1516) and the writer Meric Casaubon.

On May 25, 1581, when he was working in his study, despite being closed, a man appeared in his room, Dee was frightened and the man said to him: “Do not be afraid, I am not a man like you, but I have come to bring you knowledge.
I am part of the “Unknown Superiors” and our world is outside yours.

You, because of your knowledge, are far above the rest of men and you will be able to understand us.”

And he spoke to him about the way they would communicate from then on. For this purpose, he gave him a perfectly polished anthracite mirror through which John Dee could see and speak with beings from other dimensions.
He was taught a perfectly structured language with alphabet, grammar, etc., and Dee gave this language the name of Enochian Language, derived from ENOCH, the biblical patriarch.

The mechanics were apparently as follows: On certain days, Dee sat in front of the mirror and communicated with the extraterrestrials. He learned from them Mathematics and Geometry superior to Euclidean, that is, knowledge infinitely superior to what mathematicians had at that time.

They told him about the Earth, warning him that Mercator's globes were only an approximation of it, they told him that the Earth was not exactly round but that it was composed of several superimposed spheres aligned along another Dimension, adding that there are several points of contact or communication surfaces between these spheres and THAT PRECISELY GREENLAND EXTENDS TO INFINITY OVER OTHER LANDS DIFFERENT FROM OURS.

And the magazine then continues with DEE's relations with Queen ELIZABETH 1 of England (1533/1603) daughter of Henry V111 and Anne Boleyn and relations with other characters, some narrated in a thread by member MJF of the forum.

It is a story very similar to that of MOCTEZUMA 11 (?../ June 29, 1520) Emperor of Mexico / Tenochtitlan and his Anthracite mirror where he could see in advance the arrival of the Europeans to Mexican/American lands.

It would be very interesting to know how the two stories are related.
Some of these ideas have already been said in the sessions of the Cassiopeians.
 
Laura said: Saw this. Reply 1619. From thread: Inminent Alien Disclosure.

Ed Harris said this:

What was he told and shown? (he refers to former president Jimmy Carter)

He was told that the major religions including Christianity were programs created by extraterrestrials to prevent us from destroying ourselves while they ran their experiments on us--and that they made us.

At this moment it became clear to carter that such information could cause tremendous economic and social upheaval.

I should add that Iam only a Christian but a clergyman, so I am in no way attempting to promote atheism here. In fact, how God fits into this might be an interesting separate post.

However, these are the facts as I know them to be.

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Thanks Laura for sharing this information

This is really interesting. Perhaps that was one of the secrets/truths that were revealed to Paul as some verses in his Letters say, and that he decided not to reveal to the public, because it was not the time to do so.
 
This is based on two versions: an ancient Bible translated from Greek, which has a Spanish translation, and a popular Bible version using simple, easy-to-understand language.

For now, I'll just note the verses; later, I'll comment on the ones I consider outstanding.

Greek Version
1 Corinthians CAP.13:2, 8-10.
From the Greek:

2. And though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and I have no charity, I am nothing.

8. Charity never fails: but whether there are prophecies, they shall fail; whether there are tongues, they shall cease; whether there is knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9. For we know in part, and we prophecy in part.

10.--But when that wish is perfect is come, then that wish is in part, shall Be done away.

Chapter 14.
1.- -Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts but rather that ye may prophesy.
2.- -For he that speaketh in an unknowing tongue speaketh not unto men but into god: for no man understandeth him; how beith in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3.--But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4.-- He that speaketh in an unknowing tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophecy edifeth the church.
5.-- I would that ye all speake with tongue but rather that ye professed: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church my receive edifying.

Words and phrases that I will analyze later.

From the Greek version:
Charity—building up the church—Jesus Christ is perfect—knowledge will be finished—prophesying correctly.

Verses from the Popular Version of the Bible.
2. And if I speak from God, and understand his secret purposes, and know all things, and if I have faith enough to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
8. Love will never cease. One day, people will stop prophesying, and they will no longer speak in tongues, nor will knowledge be necessary.
9. For knowledge and prophecy are imperfect,
10. They will come to an end when what is perfect comes.

Chapter 14.
verse 1. Therefore, strive to have love and at the same time desire that God will give you spiritual gifts, especially the gift of communicating messages from Him.
2.-- He who speaks in a tongue speaks to God and not to people, for no one understands him. What he says is spiritual, but no one knows it; he speaks to himself.
3.-- But he who communicates messages from God makes others grow spiritually, and encourages and consoles them. He who speaks in a strange tongue grows spiritually himself, but he who communicates messages received from God, makes those in the Church grow spiritually.

Phrases from the popular version I will analyze later:
''Communicates messages''.
Speaking in tongues is speaking to oneself.
Church grew spiritually.
 
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