WorldTruth Social Networking Site

[Guardian]

I think that via facebook (since it has so many users, because of its popularity) people may have a bigger chance in spreading the word more widely. As opposed to WorldTruth.

Besides that, WT is just a small up to middle-sized community. You never have a guarantee that the door will not be shut due to technical or legal or financial or any other reason just overnight. Sites come and go a la good times, bad times.

Very true. A comet could wipe all of Texas off the map tomorrow, so today I'm going to enjoy posting anything I want, as often as I want, without getting an "activity warning" like I'm in Elementary school.

 

[darksai]

I think that via facebook (since it has so many users, because of its popularity) people may have a bigger chance in spreading the word more widely. As opposed to WorldTruth.

I agree though the Bubble Effect (_www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ofWFx525s) mitigates most truth while continuously reinforcing identification and beliefs for those that aren't actively seeking or think they already have it. I think it really is like G. said, there is a "finite" amount of real Knowledge that can be distributed among the individuals of here on BBM. Though not that it can measured in any 3D-conceivable way, it does seem that people are getting locked into lies faster and more deeply at the same time that more people are "waking up". And then there's still what the C's said about believers of the more subtle and closer-to-truth lies being more "tasty" to our 4D friends.

I guess in the "end", Balance is always preserved, though I've wondered about this on a large as the C's said that the total STO/STS energy balance in the Universe is always "roughly equal". This suggests to me that for the "concentration" to be able to "change across space" there needs to be a certain amount of "slack" because this "movement" takes "time", a bit like fluid- or thermodynamics except it's bidirectional (unlike heat, for example, where the volumes warming and cooling are equal in ideal conditions) and the motion itself combined with the limits of the deviation from a strictly "50/50 state" determines the equilibrium, rather than the "amounts" themselves (like in a closed-system chemical reaction). This is very much 3D thinking of course, but it's really the only way I can think of describing this concept, though I might be off completely.

Back on topic, all in all, I think there's a lot better things I can spend the little "free time" I have than worry about which social networking site I wanna use, let alone invest in building a whole new network from scratch for purposes already served more than adequately..

 

[Oxajil]

Well yeah, but how many of Facebook's millions of users are brain dead zombies who think sharing a picture of their lunch is amusing?

True, but still, there may be some who could come across an article or anything and that might peek their interest into looking more, who knows. Plus, my friends, and fellow students who are in their twenties most likely have facebook and I don't think as many of them would sign up for WT, because it's not 'cool'/popular (yet?). They often come to me and we talk about the things I post. Which I think is kinda interesting, especially given how people become more and more zombie-ish as days go by, though I don't expect anything. I also think that since SOTT went on fb, it received more attention/viewers etc. I mean, I saw the likes grow more and more every day. That doesn't mean that people are ''enlightened'' by a ''like'', but, it is something.

Don't get me wrong though, I like the idea of a social networking site without any sneaky activity, and I'll sign up as an act of support, because what that guy did, if sincere, is definitely going in the right direction. And on whether or not leaving fb and joining WT, the way I think about it is that yes, Fb is pretty evil in all the ways mentioned, but in a sense it is not worth it for me to leave fb totally, when I can stay on fb and share articles and info that may - who knows - help someone I know or don't know personally.

 

[Guardian]

let alone invest in building a whole new network from scratch for purposes already served more than adequately..

My point is that Facebook stopped serving our purpose adequately when it started charging to share our posts. We're already "preaching to the choir" unless we PAY per post.

 

[Psalehesost]

I think that via facebook (since it has so many users, because of its popularity) people may have a bigger chance in spreading the word more widely. As opposed to WorldTruth.

Well yeah, but how many of Facebook's millions of users are brain dead zombies who think sharing a picture of their lunch is amusing?

Maybe a site like WT will attract a larger percentage of users who can actually think?

The community certainly seems different - more active, and less focused on trivialities. There's a lot of people around who post and discuss worthwhile news, the kind SOTT carries (though SOTT itself remains relatively unknown). By active, I mean that you have people who post intreresting things, and then their networks to boot, sending off friend requests. Instant wider network - which means that it'd be easy to make information available to people relatively interested in it.

The one thing missing is that on Facebook, we can slightly "normalize" real information through social proof - but even there, we seem for the most part to simply be speaking amongst ourselves and a few other online acquintances. The only normalizing we could do would be if we coordinated out efforts to spread a certain piece of information, hoping it would catch on - and there impact would also likely be very limited.

So, in short, my impression is: Facebook gives a low chance of success in communicating more important information to the average person. WorldTruth gives a moderate chance of success in communicating it to the relatively more interested and engaged, who are there easy to find. With the presence there of e.g. Anonymous, one might reach that audience that is further away from us without being in the mainstream, and which actually plays a great part in shaping Internet culture.

The question becomes one of focus: Should we try to "wake up" the typical person or focus on those "in-between" us and the mainstream? Where is time and energy best used?

 

[Guardian]

The question becomes one of focus: Should we try to "wake up" the typical person or focus on those "in-between" us and the mainstream? Where is time and energy best used?

Well, I think we could do both on either, but for me it is more of an ethical issue. Who do I want to give my money and support to? Pay a soulless, exploitative corporation for the privilege of posting to huge Social Media site, and hope they don't censor my posts while mining every drop of data they can get....or contribute towards the bandwidth of what is, at least at this point, a volunteer effort to create something less soulless and exploitative, which claims to eschew censorship?

Everyone is complaining about how greedy and intrusive Facebook has become, well here's a possible alternative. From my perspective, we have a chance to DO something about what we think is wrong.

Of course it's not really an "either/or" situation, we can do both if we choose? I'm still harvesting from my Facebook page, I'm just not feeding it.

 

[mcb]

I think that via facebook (since it has so many users, because of its popularity) people may have a bigger chance in spreading the word more widely. As opposed to WorldTruth.

Well yeah, but how many of Facebook's millions of users are brain dead zombies who think sharing a picture of their lunch is amusing?

Maybe a site like WT will attract a larger percentage of users who can actually think?

I have located quite a few personal friends on FB, and exactly one on Google+. Last I looked, it was zero for WT. We might be able to use WT to draw people that we don't know to SOTT & the forum, but that isn't exactly what I have been trying to do on FB. What is it that WT is going to provide that we don't already have?

It's not that I like FB. A few weeks ago I tried to send a message to an old friend to explain who I was before sending a friend request (I have to do that sometimes), and FB tried to charge me a dollar! Not to send the message, but to deliver it somewhere that he would actually see it. Not wanting to reinforce such a bad business idea, I kept my buck.

Imagine the Postal Service adopting that strategy. For this much we'll dump your mail in a pile down the street and it might blow away, but if you pay extra we'll actually deliver it to your mailbox.

 

[Voyageur]

[quote author=Megan]
It's not that I like FB. A few weeks ago I tried to send a message to an old friend to explain who I was before sending a friend request (I have to do that sometimes), and FB tried to charge me a dollar! Not to send the message, but to deliver it somewhere that he would actually see it. Not wanting to reinforce such a bad business idea, I kept my buck.

Imagine the Postal Service adopting that strategy. For this much we'll dump your mail in a pile down the street and it might blow away, but if you pay extra we'll actually deliver it to your mailbox.
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I had know idea they charged a fee.

Just mailed a physical letter (yup, still do that now and again - think it was 62 cents + tax), and to think what is involved in that process, to finally being walked down a street, perhaps in the pouring rain, through deep snow or while dodging dogs or giving them a pet, and then being placed in someones mail box (not very efficient i know, yet personal). So electronically a dollar gets you a few thousand pixels on a screen after they are already raking in likely billions in advertizing dollars. If Facebook is at a buck for such a simple common matter, where will they go next; perhaps they will offer various plans you can select from, like tv and cell phone packages - will people pay? Think they used to call this penetration pricing - offer it free for awhile. As it is now a publicly traded company, it is sure to get more demanding on the wallet.

Just checking WT, noticed the side by side Blue Pill/Red Pill choice, with facebook represented as the blue pill and a notice "Anonymous, Occupy, All Welcome" - should be interesting to see how this site develops.

 

[Guardian]

I had know idea they charged a fee.

Yup, and the fee is determined by how popular the person you want to contact is, so if you wanted to contact someone like Laura, who has thousands of "Friends" the fee would be $4-5.00. This is in addition to being bombarded with ads AND having all your personal data sold to anyone and everyone who's willing to pay.

I do not object to paying for any service I receive, but Facebook has gotten absolutely ridiculous. Constant ads, not just on the side panels, but in my feed, in addition to the income they generate by selling my personal information (which is exactly why I don't use my real name)

Even worse, only about 20% of the people who've "liked" one of my pages actually see what I post...unless I want to pay to "promote" the post. To me this TOTALLY defeats the purpose of having a page on Facecrook.

Edited to add: I found this out when I learned that only a handful of people got my notice about an upcoming meeting about the Cherokee Bears. Facecrook is actually preventing the exchange of information, which is the only reason I joined to begin with.

 

[Tomek]

Regarding ads in Facebook, don't forget to install the Greasemonkey plugin into your browser. It will allow you to run scripts to tweak the sites you visit, and there's a lot of scripts for Facebook, including some ad-free scripts.

 

[Jacques]

Could someone explain to me how I can see the notifications on Worldtruth and how I can write a message or post something ?

I have tried many things and nothing works.

So far, I don't like it very much and I don't find it user friendly.

I have tried all the standards things that work with Facebook but it does not on Worldtruth.

 

[Psalehesost]

Could someone explain to me how I can see the notifications on Worldtruth and how I can write a message or post something ?

I have tried many things and nothing works.

So far, I don't like it very much and I don't find it user friendly.

I have tried all the standards things that work with Facebook but it does not on Worldtruth.

Browsing either one of the worldtruth.org main page ("Home" - which gives the activity feed), or on your own page (click your name when on "Home" and you'll go there), there is, just above the content, a small area with options: "Share: Status Photo Video Link Poll Blog Document", and fields being shown for the one presently marked (e.g. Status marked and a field "Write something..." and a button for sharing it).

That's for starting something. Beneath posts and their existing (if any) comments there's a "Write a comment..." area and a Comment button.

As for notifications, on "Home" you have the activity feed, as mentioned. If by notification you instead mean personal messages - you have threse three icons at the very top (WorldTruth logo - search field - then the icons in question) - which show the number of new friend requests, messages received, and notifications that have come in. Click on any of them and you'll see a list pop up, as well as a "See All ..." option at the bottom of it. Click this on the list shown for the Messages icon and you get a page where you can view the folders and also compose messages.

 

[Jacques]

Could someone explain to me how I can see the notifications on Worldtruth and how I can write a message or post something ?

I have tried many things and nothing works.

So far, I don't like it very much and I don't find it user friendly.

I have tried all the standards things that work with Facebook but it does not on Worldtruth.

Browsing either one of the worldtruth.org main page ("Home" - which gives the activity feed), or on your own page (click your name when on "Home" and you'll go there), there is, just above the content, a small area with options: "Share: Status Photo Video Link Poll Blog Document", and fields being shown for the one presently marked (e.g. Status marked and a field "Write something..." and a button for sharing it).

That's for starting something. Beneath posts and their existing (if any) comments there's a "Write a comment..." area and a Comment button.

As for notifications, on "Home" you have the activity feed, as mentioned. If by notification you instead mean personal messages - you have threse three icons at the very top (WorldTruth logo - search field - then the icons in question) - which show the number of new friend requests, messages received, and notifications that have come in. Click on any of them and you'll see a list pop up, as well as a "See All ..." option at the bottom of it. Click this on the list shown for the Messages icon and you get a page where you can view the folders and also compose messages.

Hi Psalehesost,

I have tried what you have just described but it does not work. Nothing happens when I do that.

 

[Guardian]

I have tried what you have just described but it does not work. Nothing happens when I do that.

It might be one of your add-ons? I had to completely disable "ad-block" to get any of the drop down menus to work.

I restarted Firefox in safe mode, with all add-ons disabled, and everything on Worldtruth worked fine. So then I re-enabled all the add-ons, and disabled them one at a time to see which was was causing the conflict.

Once I figured out it was "ad block" I added an exception for WT.

 

[Jacques]

I have tried what you have just described but it does not work. Nothing happens when I do that.

It might be one of your add-ons? I had to completely disable "ad-block" to get any of the drop down menus to work.

I restarted Firefox in safe mode, with all add-ons disabled, and everything on Worldtruth worked fine. So then I re-enabled all the add-ons, and disabled them one at a time to see which was was causing the conflict.

Once I figured out it was "ad block" I added an exception for WT.

Thanks so much Guardian, I will try that.