Yellowstone Public Seismographs Taken OFF-line

bltay said:
casper said:
video:
https://youtu.be/CXeIeT5GDH0

Hi Felipe, this video has been totally discredited, even in this forum. These bison are actually running into the park not out of it. They are merely enjoying a spring day and their running has nothing to do with earthquakes. These are only 20 out of 4700 bison in Yellowstone, and none of them are rushing to leave the area. In fact, there is a big controversy over culling the number of bison in the park because the ecosystem will not support these numbers.
This is not my video
 
From Dutchsince FB feed - just now:

Adepto Perfectus = dutchsinse
6 mins ·

From the site "isthisthingon" .. normally covers Yellowstone, providing the realtime charts...

They're not happy about the University of Utah's switch to a new system that does NOT provide archives of past days earthquakes.

I agree with the frustration at the fact there aren't any easy to navigate archives of past seismic activity..


Here is a message from me to University of Utah.... you MUST provide past data in an easy to export data format... it needs to be realtime... if you can't get this done, then... I CAN.

‪#‎UUSS‬ ‪#‎Yellowstone‬ ‪#‎USGS‬

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Quote 'isthisthingon"

http://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/stay-tuned.php

"So What Had Happened Was...

I've always gotten my images from the University of Utah, a.k.a. the UUSS. And sometime on the evening of April 4th, 2016, they suddenly completely changed how they provide those images. Rather, they got rid of those images. I'm therefore unable to archive them anymore or present them to you in the efficient fashion you've come to know and love.

From what I can tell so far about their changes, seismographic images have now become just "seismographic image." Every seismogram now shows only and exactly the past 24 hours of its life, as if they don't want anyone having the ability to look at its history even two days later. The filenames don't even have anything in them anymore but the station's ID. The only way for me to compensate for this is to only download each station's image once a day and then stick it in the archives. That means they'd never be live again. You'd have to go use their site to get live images. They couldn't have invented a better way to break my site if they tried. I'm not saying they were trying, but...

...but I don't know of another source for the old-style images. If you do, or have a better idea for how to compensate for the New Seismic Order, please write. If you don't, maybe utilizing the first link on this page instead will do more good. (But please be civil, internets.) I'm still waiting to hear back from them about whether the old-style seismograms are still being generated somewhere; they may be. But if not, there's no way I alone will ever get them to bring them back.

And, hey. At least the quakes still work.

Update, 4/6/2016: It's official. I got the following response: "For now, we will have only one day. We'll be working on having multiple days eventually. The old style Webicorders are no longer being generated." Which begs the question, why did they stop making them if they plan to start making them again "eventually?" Why do they consider restricting the amount of data they serve as an "improvement?" Sure, it's prettier now maybe, but it's almost completely useless. My conclusion: this was all intentional. They don't want us knowing anymore, and they'll never bring back the old-style seismograms. That or they were licensing the webicorder-generation software and decided they weren't going to pay for it anymore (exceedingly-unlikely, but I do know that Swarm, what they're using now, is free). I literally can't think of any other explanations... but I guarantee you that no true scientist would act like this. To scientists, more data is always better, and less data is always worse. This was not done for any scientific reason. This was all politics... unless they're trying to hide some event that they know is almost here...

I guess it's up to you. In the meantime I'll see what I can do to start archiving the new-style one-per-day images. They won't be live, but at least there'll still be history to look at. What a mess. I gotta get to work."

And a link he provided: http://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/quakes.php
 
I checked out the video from Tom Lupshu and there's a dispute going in the comments between dutchsince and Lupshu which is interesting. Here is one comment dutch made.

dutchsinse2 hours ago (edited)
+H Morgan They updated the university of utahs feeds, and now show realtime down to the minute as opposed to ever 15 minutes. Mary greely is showing charts she can't read, and thinks small m1.0's are large earthquakes.

She's showing M1.0's and M2.0 while saying it means something.. in reality that is every day at yellowstone.

Everyone went into a tussle when the old feeds were taken off line and replaced with new realtime feeds that don't archive easily.

The guy on isthisthingon website is upset about the archive function going away... that's the only thing that has changed since April 4th.

Everything else is online fear p0rn.

If people don't like the truth on this, then it seems they WANT yellowstone to erupt.

Mary Greeley, Tom Lupshu... and many others.. long time excited people who cover the drop of a hat at yellowstone.

Notice that they never come out cool calm and collected, and NEVER say that it most likely is nothing.. rather we always have mountains out of mole hills from these channels.

I understand the people on this channel "like" to have this kind of reporting, but you're spilling over to other peoples channels now, and I'm having to answer questions on my facebook about this video.

The answer is.. the charts changed, they announced the change, and the feeds are available....... nothing major showing up, just regular activity like we would have seen on the old feeds.

I'm sorry if this deflates peoples faith in God, or belief in eruption....

Be careful what you wish for.... but be more careful of crying wolf... that's what this new story is... wolf crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M7LphnOwdI
 
bltay said:
Hi Felipe, this video has been totally discredited, even in this forum. These bison are actually running into the park not out of it. They are merely enjoying a spring day and their running has nothing to do with earthquakes. These are only 20 out of 4700 bison in Yellowstone, and none of them are rushing to leave the area. In fact, there is a big controversy over culling the number of bison in the park because the ecosystem will not support these numbers.

Interesting, i was under the impression it was so, after i watched this one a while back
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MFzcl-kZHo

But the caldera of the yellowstone volcano is pretty big with an area of about 1500, and earthquakes don't necessarily always take place in the park.

Now that you mention Bisons move around in herds in whatever direction.
 
casper said:
bltay said:
casper said:
video:
https://youtu.be/CXeIeT5GDH0

Hi Felipe, this video has been totally discredited, even in this forum. These bison are actually running into the park not out of it. They are merely enjoying a spring day and their running has nothing to do with earthquakes. These are only 20 out of 4700 bison in Yellowstone, and none of them are rushing to leave the area. In fact, there is a big controversy over culling the number of bison in the park because the ecosystem will not support these numbers.
This is not my video

Sorry Casper, I intended this for Felipe's post. Not sure what I did but my error.
 
SummerLite said:
I checked out the video from Tom Lupshu and there's a dispute going in the comments between dutchsince and Lupshu which is interesting. Here is one comment dutch made.

dutchsinse2 hours ago (edited)
+H Morgan They updated the university of utahs feeds, and now show realtime down to the minute as opposed to ever 15 minutes. Mary greely is showing charts she can't read, and thinks small m1.0's are large earthquakes.

She's showing M1.0's and M2.0 while saying it means something.. in reality that is every day at yellowstone.

Everyone went into a tussle when the old feeds were taken off line and replaced with new realtime feeds that don't archive easily.

The guy on isthisthingon website is upset about the archive function going away... that's the only thing that has changed since April 4th.

Everything else is online fear p0rn.

If people don't like the truth on this, then it seems they WANT yellowstone to erupt.

Mary Greeley, Tom Lupshu... and many others.. long time excited people who cover the drop of a hat at yellowstone.

Notice that they never come out cool calm and collected, and NEVER say that it most likely is nothing.. rather we always have mountains out of mole hills from these channels.

I understand the people on this channel "like" to have this kind of reporting, but you're spilling over to other peoples channels now, and I'm having to answer questions on my facebook about this video.

The answer is.. the charts changed, they announced the change, and the feeds are available....... nothing major showing up, just regular activity like we would have seen on the old feeds.

I'm sorry if this deflates peoples faith in God, or belief in eruption....

Be careful what you wish for.... but be more careful of crying wolf... that's what this new story is... wolf crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M7LphnOwdI

I could not have said it better. The fear porn concerning Yellowstone is incredible, and Tom Lupshu thrives on it..
 
casper said:
link:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1120
Coincidence or something happens?

Thank you for the article, casper! I translated it into Russian and posted on ru.sott.net. It starts to go viral...
 
Here is a video from Lisa Haven who recorded her conversation with a employee from Utah University working with the website for seismic activity in Yellowstone. The article posted here by casper is brought to his attention which he discusses with her on the phone. The map with all the alarming red he identifies as being from their site, showing all the quakes that have ever happened in that area so a accumulation of activity. I found very similar maps and will post one without a exact date but the range is 1973-2003. https://youtu.be/J_vomF_fTQw

Also of interest, he says currently the live seismic activity can only be seen for 1 day but shortly this will be able to be seen for 7 days. Maybe that will take care of the archive issue, hopefully. So, I guess we'll have to wait and see how this site evolves. U of U may be getting all kinds of calls about this so thats good.

bltay, thanks for the heads up on Lupshu. I know the yellowstone panic kicked in some years ago and I followed that for awhile. I presume that was the start of a small group of people, who ever after, dedicated their lives to reporting alarming events even if untrue. So once again we are left to search for the truth. But its good to know who these people are and not mindlessly jump on their bandwagon. And maybe you can keep us informed of whats going on in your area. Someone wrote in the comments section of the previous mentioned youtube site from Jackson Wyoming, that all was well there.

Altair, it seems to me this story is misleading and contains disinformation. For instance, notice was given before the site went off line so it wasn't "all of a sudden". Also regarding the red map,its stated this is recent activity and so is the explanation as to why the site was taken down, which also seems inaccurate. I know you took time to translate and follow your best judgement on this but I'm concerned.

I know its very important to be aware of whats happening in Yellowstone so finding good sources is vital. In no way am I dismissing the possibility it could go off. In that case, I lay total responsibility at the feet of Donald Drumpf for stirring things up so much :shock:

Here is the map from Utah U. 1973-2003, perhaps also a accumulation of quakes but not to different from the recent article.
 

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Thank you to those who have brought more views into this and highlighted the alarmist nature of some of these blogs. It is good to have news from some of you who live near by and to get a reality check on things. That the map is an accumulative map of all earthquakes since 1973 changes how things look completely. That does not mean that things are not hotting up generally around the globe, but it put things in a different perspective.
 
Aeneas said:
Thank you to those who have brought more views into this and highlighted the alarmist nature of some of these blogs. It is good to have news from some of you who live near by and to get a reality check on things.

Ditto... Things are already unnerving enough; we might as well avoid generating more anxious emotions than we have to, that will just tire us and benefit you-know-who... *jerks thumb in 4D STS's direction*
 
I thought it would be useful to track down more information on the maps showing accumulated seismic activity. This link, from the University of Utah shows the picture I posted above. http://yellowstonegis.utah.edu/data/seismicity3d/index.html 1973 to 2003. If you click on Data Overview, it will take you to another, similar map, 1973-1996. I suppose they are the only ones doing this sort of tracking so this is it.

I dont rule out, tampering with the site to make it less useful to everyone, that certainly fits the usual state of affairs. And things are surely heating up around the globe.

Kalibex, this certainly is one emotionally stimulating story I'd say.
 
Altair said:
casper said:
link:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1120
Coincidence or something happens?

Thank you for the article, casper! I translated it into Russian and posted on ru.sott.net. It starts to go viral...

Hi Altair,

I hope you added into your translation that there are claims made by this article that are just not true.
 
bltay said:
Altair said:
casper said:
link:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1120
Coincidence or something happens?

Thank you for the article, casper! I translated it into Russian and posted on ru.sott.net. It starts to go viral...

Hi Altair,

I hope you added into your translation that there are claims made by this article that are just not true.

No, I simply unpublished it.
 
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