Zapper - weak electric current - does it really work?

[schriss]

Parasites are positively charged. Unhealthy tissue is also positively charged.

The introduction of weak electric current (via the Zapper) destroys parasites by reversing their polarity. Negative ions are added to encourage diseased tissue to heal -- healthy tissue is negatively charged.

http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/how.html
Testimonials page is impressive, as usuall....

This Zapper is supposed to be different from others because of: "Croft learned to make orgone generators and later began adding an orgone-generating component to the Zapper."

Any thoughts on this? Anybody has/tried this?

 

[atreides]

Okay, that sounds about okay. It works well with TCM's use of Yin and Yang on pressure points. I would be interested to see the effects of small electric currents placed on certain gates and points on the body...Maybe I should run some tests.

 

[GRiM]

I bought one, im trying it out now. Whats great is that it makes really good colloidal silver too. I'll write a review on it later. But so far so good :D

 

[schriss]

Review - nice, keep us informed :)
Did you buy the one I posted or some other? I found other Zappers, there are cheaper, but appear to have no orgone and maybe are different in ither ways too.

 

[Mike]

FYI - Zappers were talked about in this thread http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=55

 

[Vulcan59]

Have been looking for articles on how to make CS and I found this. Very lengthy article but lots of info and mostly self taught.

 

[Alana]

Hi schriss (about a year later! )

i saw this thread as i am looking for information regarding zapping. I entered the link you provided and it seems that the same person who created and is promoting this zapper, is also the creator and promoter of the Orgone Pyramid that has the "ability" to

absorb all negative, unbalanced energy that may come into your space -- transforming it into positive, balanced energy.

and also the Crystal Harmonizer which allegedly

can clear the Chakras in a matter of minutes. They will also clear any energy blockages in the body.

which i personally find kind of suspicious, with my (limited indeed) knowledge on how energy blockages are cleared in the body and how negative energy is "cleared" from the atmosphere. It's just too easy! so this woman is, best, ignorant about the importance of recapitulation, self-observation and self therapy, conscious awareness, in unblocking blocked energies. She is not providing research even.

hxxp://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/Orgone_Pyramid_Crystal_Harmonizer.html#The_Orgone_Pyramid

With that in mind, i personally, would not buy her zapper.

 

[Simmi]

Along with Coloidal Silver, I made my zapper late march from the improved Bob Beck's plans. Which works wonders.

Tomorrow I am going for a full blood screening test, results hopefull in a few days time.

Problems:
You cannot drink alcohol, you cannot eat Onions, Leaks and especially not Garlic. Also, no Vitamin A, though Vitamin C is probaly good.
Coffee and tea should also be avoided. If you are on any medication, you should stop this for two days before starting. If you must take medication, take it after treatment and no further treatment before 24 hours after medication.
You may have bad gas attacks, or be on the run to the toilet on occasions trying to contain a mini explosion because the bacteria in the gut have been killed off too. Which is interesting because I thought no bacteria = no gas.

One thing that is not talked about and that is that to get the 50-150microAmps into the arteries, more current has to be pushed throught the skin - in the order of around 2 to 5 milliAmps. This can mean that you may start to burn your skin where the contacts have been and also suffer inflamation at these points.

Results
So far, my skin conditions have slightly improved but not much, I eat less because I no longer feel the need to snack, I am loosing weight and I sleep better at night. My Fungal infection and Candida have completely gone.

Use it for 1 to 2 hours a day for 3 to 4 weeks. I can't go beyound 1 hour, because I start to burn. Wait one month befaore repeating the cycle.

Will keep you posted on the blood test.

Ciao

 

[Mikey]

I agree with the post of Irini.

Well, the Zapper you are refering to claims to be modeled after Hulda Clark's Zapper Circuitry. To my knowledge, that is not true, because I have disassebmled and analyzed Clark's Zapper two years ago: It is simply a microcontroller based rectangle wave generator with variable frequency (about 10k to 500k Hz as far as I remember) and variable voltage (5-15V) output, positive offset. Also, all the new models of the Clark's zapper do exactly that, only with new slick outfit and illumiated displays. Clark proofed via experiments that a weak electrical current with a specific resonance frequency belonging to specific parasites weakens them, so that the immune system gets a chance to act. It is the mechanical resonance of the parasites that is stimulated through the electrical current. As an analogy, it would be like you are hearing a very loud sound with a high pitch that makes your head feel explode, thus rendering you unconscious.

On the contrary, the Zapper you are referring to, according to the homesite, has a fixed "feel good frequency" (red flag) of 15 Hz and built in magnets, crystals, "moebius" coils (difference to a standard coil?) and orgon producing material in it. It is therefore not even similar to Clark's Zapper, because of the fixed frequency. Also, the electrodes are only a few centimeters separated. Parasites, however, mostly hide not in your hand. The current must flow through the appropriate places.

Everyone using Orgon generators should learn about the benefits and also the dangers! There's a lot on the internet! I also suggest reading the orignal books of Clark et al.

Maybe this specific device has positive effects - but likely not because of Dr. Clark's method. With this short review it seems to me that somebody uses the popular names "Zapper" and "Clark" to spare the marketing costs - parasite-like I should add.

EDIT: this is a reply to the first post of schriss

 

[Simmi]

Any qualified electronics engineer would tell you that current travels through the skin of the conductor at higher frequencies. So this means that all you end up doing is providing a direct short through your skin from one electrode to the other. Power companies rely on this effect in powerlines. Only a low frequency pulse would penetrate the skin and vessel walls.

 

[Mikey]

I know the skin effect. You're right, the current density is greater on the surface, but that does not mean that there is zero current density in the core of the conductor (the body). And that current density may be greater than the sensitivity threshold of the parasites. In case of resonance, there is not much stimulation needed!

In addition, the definite skin effect shows rather in isotropic, homogen material (copper powerlines). Your body is not like that: there are various layers with various electrical resistance (epidermis, dermis, connective tissue, muscles, etc.) so one just can't say where the current flows exactly.

Clark's concept is to hit the resonance of parasites, which is in the kHz frequency band, see originalpdf frequency table.

EDIT: Just to clarify, in this thread there are 3 different zappers/persons in discussion: Don Croft's Zapper in the first post of schriss, Bob Beck's Zapper in the post of Simmi, and Clark's Zapper, all of which have different working principles. I wanted to show the difference to Clark's Zapper.

 

[Simmi]

Blood test is back and there is nothing of note.

Both Liver and Kidney function is fine, so taking Silver Coloid is not wreaking havoc and kidneys seem to be flushing out any remnants, but as for the testing of the more beneficial effects of a zapper (of whoevers design), I have no idea what should be tested for. So I am thinking about getting my InterLeukin and Interferon tested - is there one for fungal too?

Sooo, is there any MicroBiologist/doctor/expert in the house that would recommend specific tests??

Thanks

Simmi

 

[Alana]

Well, the Zapper you are refering to claims to be modeled after Hulda Clark's Zapper Circuitry. To my knowledge, that is not true, because I have disassebmled and analyzed Clark's Zapper two years ago: It is simply a microcontroller based rectangle wave generator with variable frequency (about 10k to 500k Hz as far as I remember) and variable voltage (5-15V) output, positive offset. Also, all the new models of the Clark's zapper do exactly that, only with new slick outfit and illumiated displays. Clark proofed via experiments that a weak electrical current with a specific resonance frequency belonging to specific parasites weakens them, so that the immune system gets a chance to act. It is the mechanical resonance of the parasites that is stimulated through the electrical current. As an analogy, it would be like you are hearing a very loud sound with a high pitch that makes your head feel explode, thus rendering you unconscious.

On the contrary, the Zapper you are referring to, according to the homesite, has a fixed "feel good frequency" (red flag) of 15 Hz and built in magnets, crystals, "moebius" coils (difference to a standard coil?) and orgon producing material in it. It is therefore not even similar to Clark's Zapper, because of the fixed frequency. Also, the electrodes are only a few centimeters separated. Parasites, however, mostly hide not in your hand. The current must flow through the appropriate places.

Everyone using Orgon generators should learn about the benefits and also the dangers! There's a lot on the internet! I also suggest reading the orignal books of Clark et al.

Maybe this specific device has positive effects - but likely not because of Dr. Clark's method. With this short review it seems to me that somebody uses the popular names "Zapper" and "Clark" to spare the marketing costs - parasite-like I should add.

Data, i very much appreciate your input on this one.

 

[PopHistorian]

The page is promoting this zapper as most inexpensive, but there is a Clark zapper cheaper now:
hXXp://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/Products/ZapperC3i.html

 

[Mikey]

Data, i very much appreciate your input on this one.

My pleasure!

The page is promoting this zapper as most inexpensive, but there is a Clark zapper cheaper now:
hXXp://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/Products/ZapperC3i.html

For a deeper understanding of the technical terms which can be seen on the picture on the link above:

Clark's zapper use a default frequency of 30kHz, square Wave with 50% Duty Cycle (on and off times are equal), positive offset (because it is easier to build). Electronic hobbyists could build it from scratch with expenses as low as a few bucks. The cheap versions have only this fixed frequency, but that does not matter:

A square wave is composed of a very large number of sinusodial waves with different frequencies and phase angles. They are called "overtones" of the base frequency and are in this case multiples of 30kHz. So, the Zapper really outputs sinus waves of 30kHz, 60kHz, ..., 300kHz, 330kHz, etc. Even if the resonance of a specific parasite lies in between of such 30kHz steps, it is excited anyway (although not with the maximal amplitude), which can be shown mathematically. So, 30kHz is used as a "wide spread shotgun", with the intent of reaching all parasites.

More expensive Zappers can be programmed with a specific frequency and "zap" program for maximum performance and fine-tuned therapy. In my case, I bought a programming chip for borreliosis (lyme disease) for my Biowave 21, manufactured by Medi-Gen Technology Ltd (borreliosis chip about 15 euros, zapper about 70 euros, 3 years ago).