Ark's public persona is that of a physicist. Just like everyone else he has the right to decide which aspects of his private life he keeps private.
I assume talking about Putin's health issues was with his permission, since he is a country leader?
Yeah, looks like more deflection to avoid answering the question. More defence through attack. KM hopes we are going to start explaining ourselves instead of focusing on him, or that he'll scare us off to drop the topic entirely.
Nope, maybe it's my syntax fault, but you did get it wrong. I'm not attacking, First, I complained at Joe's behaviour, because it wasn't first time, and it came after more than ten years of knowing Joe, and even meeting him personally.
Althoughh you try to convince me that I am attackin, it isn't simply true. I'm defending myself, and you are attacking me telling me, that I attack. So let it be, but I know it isn't true.
I don't think it is an entirely conscious process in him. It is however a frequently observed behaviour in those who have something to hide. It's like shouting "Look over there! Don't look at me!"
You're absolutely right, although I keep telling everybody everything, this time I have this strong innner feeling, that I shouldn't fullfill your demands.
KM, you weren't attacked, you were asked. And you refused to answer because, as Turgon said, protecting the privacy of someone who disrespected Ark's privacy is more important to you. Strange priorities for a long-time forum member.
I was asked by Joe, but in a way that made me not easy. Then I followed unconscious signs. Then You demand answer. Not ask.
Besides, there is enough information on curreent forum to identify whom do I have the info from, so it is even not a secret.
Problem is somewhere else, some kind of STS thinking.
Your refusal to answer and your attitude made us lose trust in your good intentions and co-linear priorities as well. This makes your further participation on the forum rather tricky since we will have to be on guard when interacting with you. If this doesn't bother you then, well, it's your choice to proceed down that path I guess.
We should give to whom who ask, not demands and threaten. Besides I feel treated this way almost since beginning. I suppose thank to ex-forum member and ex-friend of Ark opinion who knew her as Magia. After travelling with her to Barcelona, I found who is she and cut the contact, right there. Ark even wrote to me how wrong I was, that I should repair the relation, be sorry, etc. I followed his instruction precisely, against my inner voice. It didn't help a bit, and then, 6 years later Magia visited Ark and made such a show, that I got info from every (front) door. Including Ark. So, in spite of fact, that I spotted danger first, was right in my view, I was treated on the forum like persona non grata ever since.
But I do wonder why someone whose ego and self-importance are more precious to them than doing what Gurdjieff said, i.e. submitting your wilfulness to the will of the teacher, wants to be a member of this forum in the first place. Surely it isn't for the dietary advice since you reject that in favour of your own opinion as well.
Baseless allegations. Who is my teacher? You? In a same way I am yours. Ark? So I will submit willfulness to the Ark will. Not yours. And don't quite follow the rest. Are you proposing authoritarian thinking?
Answering the question is something that you should do in oder to comply with the rule we strive to live by here: give to those that ask
What about demanding? Should we give them too?
We are not driven by simple curiosity but by the need to protect the forum and its Elders. As pointed out above, you prefer to protect those who disrespect them and their privacy. Because they like to gossip. It says a lot about you and how much you really value the forum and its creators.
I agree you may have your own purposes, but do the ends justify means? Especially free will bending?
You "write with Ark since 2008" and you found out through "backdoor channels" because Ark didn't tell you himself. That says a lot IMO.
No, didn't tell, I just described how our contacts "cooled". Besides, networking works better.
It's not us who are curious in an unhealthy way, it is you. A committed forum member would have approached the forum owners immediately and told them that information they wished to keep private was circulating outside the circles they shared it with.
Here you absolutely right. I didn't think about it earlier. Not kjnowing it was confident info I shared it on the forum. My mistake.
"But you probably listened to everything that was said, asked questions to find out even more and then you made cryptic remarks about "backdoor channels". As if being in possession of such information somehow made you important. It doesn't make you important KM. It makes both you and your secret sources a threat. Is that what you want to be for us here?"
Allegations. I wasn't informed with no further information. I was asked for help, because "they give antibiotics to Ark!". That was all. I still don't know what is the problem, if I don't count Ark's information about some helicobacter problems. Public, so I can share that.
Besides, it's not really hard to ask Ark who else outside the forum knows about the topic of this conversation. I doubt it's a lot of people. But if the answer is 'no one outside the forum' then it will put you in a rather tricky position.
Just go ahead. I provided enough information already.