Moving

[FRV]

Hello All!

I have been pondering moving for a longtime and feel called to a very specific place. This call is only growing and I am ready to answer it.

I know the weather around the world is only going to get crazy so I have some fear about moving BUT I do not want to make decisions based on fear. I want there to be a balance between being realistic and aware of certain cons while also being willing to trust my path, intuition, higher self, and experience.

I currently live in AB, Canada. A place where it's apparently "cheaper" than the rest of Canada and yet after making $10 more per hour than my previous job I am struggling to afford a one bedroom dingy apartment in a place that is rampant with drugs and sex trafficking.

I have been working through unconscious limiting beliefs and emotions surrounding money and not having the resources to move. I feel called to take a leap of faith and trust the Divine guidance while also being logical about the reality of how hard it is to move.

I have two questions, can anyone help me find any transcripts in which the c's mention moving (I am having trouble searching them up, is there a way to search transcripts only without the forum threads coming up?)

Does anyone have any advice about moving out of North America/ Canada? Any potential pitfalls to watch out for or be aware of, any advice that may help make the process easier, etc?

(I've travelled and already know how much I enjoy being out of Canada, so moving wouldn't be my first time leaving)

 

[mugacoffee]

Hi,

What job is it you do?

 

[brandon]

I have two questions, can anyone help me find any transcripts in which the c's mention moving (I am having trouble searching them up, is there a way to search transcripts only without the forum threads coming up?)

There are a couple ways - best and easiest is to use Cassiopaean Session Transcripts Search - fantastic search site made by Pecha on the forum!

Or, if you want to use the normal forum search function, you can go to the C's sessions subforum, click search, type in your search term, type in Laura in the "By: Member" field, to limit results to posts by Laura (all transcripts are posted by her), and in the dropdown list choose to search "this forum", which will limit the search to the session transcripts subforum only..

 

[axj]

Does anyone have any advice about moving out of North America/ Canada? Any potential pitfalls to watch out for or be aware of, any advice that may help make the process easier, etc?

One important question to consider is indeed how you will make an income at your new destination. If you can earn money with remote work, then living in places with low wages and low cost of living can actually be an advantage. If you have to earn money locally there, not so much.

A potential pitfall might be the permanent residency requirements of the country that you chose. Make sure that you can meet them. If that and your income are set, then there is not many pitfalls, I think. Other than making sure that you do not move to an area with a lot of crime or natural disasters, etc.

 

[Nathancat7]

Hello All!

I have been pondering moving for a longtime and feel called to a very specific place. This call is only growing and I am ready to answer it.

I know the weather around the world is only going to get crazy so I have some fear about moving BUT I do not want to make decisions based on fear. I want there to be a balance between being realistic and aware of certain cons while also being willing to trust my path, intuition, higher self, and experience.

I currently live in AB, Canada. A place where it's apparently "cheaper" than the rest of Canada and yet after making $10 more per hour than my previous job I am struggling to afford a one bedroom dingy apartment in a place that is rampant with drugs and sex trafficking.

I have been working through unconscious limiting beliefs and emotions surrounding money and not having the resources to move. I feel called to take a leap of faith and trust the Divine guidance while also being logical about the reality of how hard it is to move.

I have two questions, can anyone help me find any transcripts in which the c's mention moving (I am having trouble searching them up, is there a way to search transcripts only without the forum threads coming up?)

Does anyone have any advice about moving out of North America/ Canada? Any potential pitfalls to watch out for or be aware of, any advice that may help make the process easier, etc?

(I've travelled and already know how much I enjoy being out of Canada, so moving wouldn't be my first time leaving)

There are people who are warriors, building their life around that.
The C's said it's not where you are, it' who you are that's important.
Imagine the suffering a person has to go through, when their heart is aligned with their mission and responsibilies. And they can't live with their loved one.
The intentional suffering they have to go through does build yearning and longing, and that's a good thing. It's super important because it builds character. It also generates an attention not on who we are, and not where we are, in the material focus.
Because I'm such a loser, or not much of a warrior I sometimes work to be able to leave, like in a heartbeat. Because I love adventure.
Also it needs to be said that people are best served working together
And there's something to be said for your case to get the hell out of there.
Let me give you an example. About a year ago at my somewhat isolated place I was doing Nathan things, wasting time, at 3:00 pm when I heard a knock on on the door.
It was a young woman asking if I knew where so and so was, and where he lived. I'd never heard of him.
Oh I can feel myself getting emotional, it's hard to talk about.
My instincts told me it was suspicious, she was scoping out the place.
So that night I slept sitting on the couch, watching door.
At 3:00 am I awoke.
"was that a noise?"
I went to the door, grabbing a stick before I opened it.
And there before me was my worst fear, a confident, muscular young man without an ounce of fear. With his older friend hidden in the shadows. Our eyes locked and the decision was almost ephemeral as time almost didn't matter. It was so scary.
I beat the crap out of him. I didn't wish to hurt him and the force of my blows were exactly commenserate with his yielding, letting him know I was willing to escalate if he didn't.
I told him to never come back and he said he wouldn't, only saying at distance that he'd just wanted a light.
I don't wish to talk bad about myself but I didnt have a lot of internal charactor strength, gone perhaps are the days when I could walk at night in the cities and people left me alone.
I had just enough to take action.
I told my brother about it , who lives across the state, and he was rather calm, level headed, like he didn't feel the fear I felt. He said he was proud of me.
And I thought, proud of what? It was survival, and I attracted it to myself.
What the incedent did do was help spark a realisation that I needed to change.
So you see why if you live with other people, or among other people, it's important to be clean. Clean of petty jealousy, clean of rage and sexual impropiety don't work well with others.
This is so hard to talk about, I definately will talk about it more, just this subject of the C's. Thank you for letting me do that.

 

[nicklebleu]

And there before me was my worst fear, a confident, muscular young man without an ounce of fear. With his older friend hidden in the shadows. Our eyes locked and the decision was almost ephemeral as time almost didn't matter. It was so scary.
I beat the crap out of him. I didn't wish to hurt him and the force of my blows were exactly commenserate with his yielding, letting him know I was willing to escalate if he didn't.

I don’t want to derail @FRV ’s post, but I think Nathan’s post deserves comment.

I am not exactly sure whether I would be proud of you. You put yourself in a dangerous situation where you unilaterally escalated an ambiguous situation. Maybe the guy really only wanted to get some light, or had another issue? I think you were lucky the other guy was willing to back off and not go down the escalation spiral, or you might have been hurt by a situation that escalated out of proportion, and without need.

I always think it is wise to try to de-escalate and/ or leave the confrontation as long as possible, and if that doesn’t work, and the OTHER side continues to escalates and you realize that they won’t back down and are itching for a fight, to THEN step in with maximum force - but the primary focus should always be de-escalation, because you never know what the exact odds are that you will prevail, especially if the opposition is more numerous than you are.

Of course I wasn’t there so my assessment of this situation might be wrong - but I believe it would be beneficial for you to think carefully about this, no matter what the situation really was.

My apologies, FRV, for jumping in sideways!

 

[Nathancat7]

Ok, there are some situation, personally, where I'd move in a heart and they are personal to me. And I don't care what other people would do it's just how I'd handle.
The first is really rare and just doesn't happen often. If you find someone who you have a yearning and a longing for a misery too, and you just know, somehow that the yearning and the longing will only just increase in their physical presence. You know that you'd be miserable together, for a while, but that it only just get better, richer, deeper. Me I'd make that happen-I'd not just move, no matter. Cause it's not where you are.
Reasons to move should never be about body attraction.
Secondly it would be to be around friends I'm just attracted to in a soul way, primarily ,where it's its just fun, where we can grow around each other, and it just happens naturally.
The third is a disciplined learning environment. Where everyone is safe, there are rules to follow, and the personal growth is just astouding.
It isn't just one, two, or three, and ultimately movement is a flow of learning who we are.
That always happens in relations no matter where we are, as people here do so in ways that are open up in ways I'm still learning opening up to. I bet people here lead incredible lives. The most interesting thing to know is what people bring endemic to who they are. The other thing is "just shut up and read". What did someone say? The conversation continues

 

[Nathancat7]

I don’t want to derail @FRV ’s post, but I think Nathan’s post deserves comment.

I am not exactly sure whether I would be proud of you. You put yourself in a dangerous situation where you unilaterally escalated an ambiguous situation. Maybe the guy really only wanted to get some light, or had another issue? I think you were lucky the other guy was willing to back off and not go down the escalation spiral, or you might have been hurt by a situation that escalated out of proportion, and without need.

I always think it is wise to try to de-escalate and/ or leave the confrontation as long as possible, and if that doesn’t work, and the OTHER side continues to escalates and you realize that they won’t back down and are itching for a fight, to THEN step in with maximum force - but the primary focus should always be de-escalation, because you never know what the exact odds are that you will prevail, especially if the opposition is more numerous than you are.

Of course I wasn’t there so my assessment of this situation might be wrong - but I believe it would be beneficial for you to think carefully about this, no matter what the situation really was.

My apologies, FRV, for jumping in sideways!

You're not jumping in sideways.
The thing is it's so self-centered and manipulative of me to mention it because I haven't taken the time to read all the posts in this thread.
That's the scary part about it, who knows what could have happened.
I made it through that and it was a while ago and I'm alright. It's important you know that
It's nothing compared to the horrors some people experience in wars.
If I was in different place growthwise it could have happened in a different way.
I could have been just like " Hey sure, no, that's cool, not really interested,ya, here's a light, whatever."
Or maybe if I wasn't so focused on the physical it wouldn't have happened.
Or maybe in a different way.
Remember, well I didn't say, this guy was a meth head.

 

[Nathancat7]

Ok, there are some situation, personally, where I'd move in a heart and they are personal to me. And I don't care what other people would do it's just how I'd handle.
The first is really rare and just doesn't happen often. If you find someone who you have a yearning and a longing for a misery too, and you just know, somehow that the yearning and the longing will only just increase in their physical presence. You know that you'd be miserable together, for a while, but that it only just get better, richer, deeper. Me I'd make that happen-I'd not just move, no matter. Cause it's not where you are.
Reasons to move should never be about body attraction.
Secondly it would be to be around friends I'm just attracted to in a soul way, primarily ,where it's its just fun, where we can grow around each other, and it just happens naturally.
The third is a disciplined learning environment. Where everyone is safe, there are rules to follow, and the personal growth is just astouding.
It isn't just one, two, or three, and ultimately movement is a flow of learning who we are.
That always happens in relations no matter where we are, as people here do so in ways that are open up in ways I'm still learning opening up to. I bet people here lead incredible lives. The most interesting thing to know is what people bring endemic to who they are. The other thing is "just shut up and read". What did someone say? The conversation continues

But wouldn't move unless it was reciprical, and people talked about it. I'm not impulsive and insensitive like that. I'm just talking.

 

[iamthatis]

As a fellow inmate of Canuckistan, I can understand the urge! Interesting to hear that even in Alberta things are too pricey. I guess it's everywhere. In my small town in BC, a lot of people my age are living with their parents because it's as expensive as Vancouver out here. Crazy times.

In addition to what others have said, you'll probably want to move to a country that doesn't speak English, best to start learning the language and culture before going.

There's also the phrase, 'wherever you go, there you are.' Maybe the frequency fence - and all its associated difficulties - changes somewhat based on geographic location, lightening the energetic load a bit, and making life easier in some ways. But I think the frequency fence covers the whole planet. And that means we'll have to deal without ourselves and others no matter where we are.

One of the main messages of the C's is - it's not where you are, but who you are and what you see. But then, I don't see that as a reason NOT to move. What you see can also determine where you want to be. And maybe what you see indicates that a move is necessary. So changing external circumstances can be a great idea, and I think it would be most effective if paired with a renewed commitment to not let those external circumstances fully determine our internal state. In other words, to keep steady wherever we go, knowing that nothing is guaranteed.

Another thought is that places that look good now can all turn upside down quickly. Especially with earth changes around the corner. An ice age, plagues, fire from the sky, a global deluge - basically mass death and suffering - would do a lot to totally strain any culture and transform any political regime today. Some will be more resilient than others. I'm tempted to say those with traditional values will be more stable. My own view is not being too strongly attached to a 'promised land' idea, but finding a place that's 'good enough' we're headed for a very uncertain situation that the planet hasn't seen in 309,000 years. You could think of it as a Hero's Journey - an adventure full of evil, madmen, monsters, strange new lands, quests, battles, and allies in waiting. Or a leap of Faith. Maybe even listening to a Call of the Soul, or realizing one's destiny.

Anyways, good to hear you're not moving just out of fear. Though I also understand if there's some fear there, too - just imagine the limp Trudeau regime trying to provide adequate support for the nation in the midst of an ice age. It's enough to give one a fit of the vapors.

If I were to move, I don't know what I'd do with all my prepping stuff. Sell it, give it away, travel light, and re-stock later? Or hire an international moving company and pack a shipping container with my crucial things?

I don’t want to derail @FRV ’s post, but I think Nathan’s post deserves comment.

I am not exactly sure whether I would be proud of you. You put yourself in a dangerous situation where you unilaterally escalated an ambiguous situation. Maybe the guy really only wanted to get some light, or had another issue? I think you were lucky the other guy was willing to back off and not go down the escalation spiral, or you might have been hurt by a situation that escalated out of proportion, and without need.

I always think it is wise to try to de-escalate and/ or leave the confrontation as long as possible, and if that doesn’t work, and the OTHER side continues to escalates and you realize that they won’t back down and are itching for a fight, to THEN step in with maximum force - but the primary focus should always be de-escalation, because you never know what the exact odds are that you will prevail, especially if the opposition is more numerous than you are.

Of course I wasn’t there so my assessment of this situation might be wrong - but I believe it would be beneficial for you to think carefully about this, no matter what the situation really was.

My apologies, FRV, for jumping in sideways!

Yeah, just a brief note - I had a loud knock on the door late at night when living downtown once. I just listened for a while, but didn't reply or open the door, and went back to sleep.

 

[Gawan]

Thanks for your post, FRV.

Hello All!

I have been pondering moving for a longtime and feel called to a very specific place. This call is only growing and I am ready to answer it.

I know the weather around the world is only going to get crazy so I have some fear about moving BUT I do not want to make decisions based on fear. I want there to be a balance between being realistic and aware of certain cons while also being willing to trust my path, intuition, higher self, and experience.

I currently live in AB, Canada. A place where it's apparently "cheaper" than the rest of Canada and yet after making $10 more per hour than my previous job I am struggling to afford a one bedroom dingy apartment in a place that is rampant with drugs and sex trafficking.

I have been working through unconscious limiting beliefs and emotions surrounding money and not having the resources to move. I feel called to take a leap of faith and trust the Divine guidance while also being logical about the reality of how hard it is to move.

I have two questions, can anyone help me find any transcripts in which the c's mention moving (I am having trouble searching them up, is there a way to search transcripts only without the forum threads coming up?)

Does anyone have any advice about moving out of North America/ Canada? Any potential pitfalls to watch out for or be aware of, any advice that may help make the process easier, etc?

(I've travelled and already know how much I enjoy being out of Canada, so moving wouldn't be my first time leaving)

I think travelling to another country is different, then going there for a living . And language barrier is the first thing, that comes to my mind.

As someone else asked, what is your current profession? Can you find with your profession easily somewhere else, another job? Of course, you need to search on online platforms in different areas, if someone is looking for someone.

And are there any other chances in your area to move to a saver place, that you can still keep your job? With the help of private contacts, colleagues, also online platforms?

 

[Joe]

I have been pondering moving for a longtime and feel called to a very specific place. This call is only growing and I am ready to answer it.

Which specific place is that?

 

[Yupo]

With the world going sideways these days, something one might want to consider is around the risk of being a transnational should a hot war break out. Alliances and policies can change on a dime. Sometimes foreigners (or even citizens of foreign descent) get rounded up, interred or even expelled. There is some safety and comfort in being able to blend in with the natives.

I don't know their situation these days, but some time ago there was a lot of talk about Costa Rica being a pacifist paradise because of no standing army. To my mind that reads as low-hanging fruit for a take over.

I once saw an interesting way of living that produced good passive income. One of my kids was living for a while in a desirable section of Queens (a borough of NYC). The "landlady" was a young green card holding go-getter. She'd leased an apartment with 4 bedrooms, one of which was large with a dedicated bathroom. That room became a dormitory with 6 women renting. The other 3 rooms were private 'apartments' with a shared bath. Everyone shared the kitchen and living/dining rooms. Strict codes of conduct, rotating cleaning duties, etc. The landlady lived in a walk-in closet with a single mattress and racks to hold her luggage with contained all of her personal effects. She would pop in occasionally between visits/holidays to various countries. The apartment spaces always had a long waiting list, as were affordable, nicely located and the little community of women was considered safe. Didn't take much to get booted out, which kept behavior in line.
Someone would have to be able to get along with people to live like that.

 

[Alejo]

I think you've received some great advice, I think the main focus of moving is stability, can you create stability in the location where you are thinking of going? And that stability is defined in several ways, a steady source of income, being able to create relations with your neighbors, things as such.

So, I think Joe's question is very pertinent to your efforts, where is this place? and can you describe the yearning?

 

[FRV]

So, I think Joe's question is very pertinent to your efforts, where is this place? and can you describe the yearning?

I've been reflecting on my post and all of your comments. Upon deeper reflection, I realize this yearning is about visiting a certain place for a period of time, not moving there (yet anyways).
I've had a yearning for 4 years to return to a place that completely changed my life and I thought the whole time it was about moving there, but it's not.

here was a lot of talk about Costa Rica

Which specific place is that?

Funny the place I am yearning to return to his a small town in Costa Rica. I don't like admitting this to people because I feel like it's so mainstream to be like "omg I want to be more spiritual, I'm going to Costa Rica" but for me it truly is a a deep intuitive knowing that I want to return there. I got involved with the local community there and it was truly an enriching experience.

think travelling to another country is different, then going there for a living .

Thank you for this reminder, this comment was a great trigger to reflect upon!!

here's also the phrase, 'wherever you go, there you are.'

I've also been pondering that phrase for years and is why I haven't moved out my hometown because I wanted to learn to be peaceful and joyful regardless of where I am but because of who I am. I'm now confident that this craving for a new environment is because I am genuinely ready and not trying to run away.

What job is it you do?

I am an office admin and also have a side business of life/spiritual coaching and a somatic facilitator. I also have lots of different job experiences and skills such as customer service, professional cooking, cleaning/janitor that I can use if needed.

Thank you everyone for your inputs. You all gave either great advice or good questions to ponder and sit with. I am feeling more clear headed. I appreciate all the support.