Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[MJF]

I just binge watched the entire Netflix series with George Knapp, and must say it is pretty decent and stand behind my opinion, I like George and think he has done a good job of researching the UAP phenomenon. I just read this morning the Pentagon has admitted to 400 new UAP sightings, and with the Saturn Neptune conjunction imminent- looks like things may be heating up and a major change is coming. I can feel the tension, the energy-can anyone else feel it?

Yes, I get that feeling too. I always felt that George Knapp was genuine but who knows. He has championed whistle blower Bob Lazar and has stood by him over the years. However, it is worth bearing in mind here what the C's said about Lazar:

Q: (L) Bob Lazar supposedly worked on alien craft retro-engineering?

A: Did but sinister. Involved with questionable types.

Q: (L) His video about working at area 51 and descriptions of propulsion systems and alien craft was or was not truth?

A: Close to the truth. Craft tech: minor points were off.

I hope they did not have Knapp in mind here.

 

[tschai]

Yes, I get that feeling too. I always felt that George Knapp was genuine but who knows.

There will always be elements of doubt in some of the stories, Lazar was one of them that we desperately wanted to believe, and the Cs confirmed many elements of his story are true, but not quite in the way they are portrayed. There are a lot of UFO stories, like George Adamsky - his original encounter with the Nordics in the desert, and subsequent encounters including photos of their craft- and explanations of how they can live on planets like Venus and not be visible because they vibrate at a different frequency mesh right in with the RA and Cass material, which for me after the fact made the stories all the more believable. Apparently the aliens themselves ditched their contacts (Adamsky et al, there are several famous contactees who got the same treatment) and set up a campaign to discredit them, or just abandon them altogether and in desperate attempt to remain relevant ( as in Adamsky’s case) resorted to fakery which further ruined their lives when found out.

 

[MJF]

There will always be elements of doubt in some of the stories, Lazar was one of them that we desperately wanted to believe, and the Cs confirmed many elements of his story are true, but not quite in the way they are portrayed. There are a lot of UFO stories, like George Adamsky - his original encounter with the Nordics in the desert, and subsequent encounters including photos of their craft- and explanations of how they can live on planets like Venus and not be visible because they vibrate at a different frequency mesh right in with the RA and Cass material, which for me after the fact made the stories all the more believable. Apparently the aliens themselves ditched their contacts (Adamsky et al, there are several famous contactees who got the same treatment) and set up a campaign to discredit them, or just abandon them altogether and in desperate attempt to remain relevant ( as in Adamsky’s case) resorted to fakery which further ruined their lives when found out.

I think you can add Billy Meier to that list of contactees as well:

Q: (L) We would like to know the source of information coming through Billy Meier?

A: Grays.

Q: (L) He is not channelling Pleiadians?

A: Was but not now.

I attach a link to a podcast by Kristian Harloff in which he ponders whether Lazar's recent announcement suggests he has something new to bring to the disclosure party or whether his book will just add to the stigma that surrounds him.​

See: MSN

Apologies if it has been posted before.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Matthew Pines is a really interesting and smart guy. Here he is discussing all sorts of things (politics, physics, metaphysics, UFOs) with Jesse Michels. He even speculates about timeline manipulations and if groups of people may have the ability to use techniques, perhaps involving consciousness amplified with technology, to "cause nearby minds to all shift" to a new timeline.

 

[tschai]

Q: (L) He is not channelling Pleiadians?

A: Was but not now.

I wonder at what point the grays were able to co-opt the communications, and why would the Pleiadians allow that to happen?
In the case of Adamsky, at one point he described being taken aboard a mother ship and saw a room full of “lovely young women in diaphanous clothing, working at keyboards, programming baby saucers” which were sent out hither and yon in a beautiful pantomime. Basically programming recon drones, just as we would if we visited an alien, possibly hostile planet- heck we do it here to our own citizens. My point is- the beings these people were in contact with may not have been human at all, but reptiles or who knows what, projecting into the minds of these hapless folks what they wanted them to see. When they had carried out their mission, they were discarded- and the same will happen to the current cast of characters. If the puppet masters see their house of cards beginning to topple, chances are they will go scorched earth- no loose ends.

 

[tschai]

I wonder at what point the grays were able to co-opt the communications, and why would the Pleiadians allow that to happen?
In the case of Adamsky, at one point he described being taken aboard a mother ship and saw a room full of “lovely young women in diaphanous clothing, working at keyboards, programming baby saucers” which were sent out hither and yon in a beautiful pantomime. Basically programming recon drones, just as we would if we visited an alien, possibly hostile planet- heck we do it here to our own citizens. My point is- the beings these people were in contact with may not have been human at all, but reptiles or who knows what, projecting into the minds of these hapless folks what they wanted them to see. When they had carried out their mission, they were discarded- and the same will happen to the current cast of characters. If the puppet masters see their house of cards beginning to topple, chances are they will go scorched earth- no loose ends.

The information on Adamsky and others can be found in Timothy Good’s excellent book “Alien Base” of which I own a copy. I highly recommend it.

 

[MJF]

I wonder at what point the grays were able to co-opt the communications, and why would the Pleiadians allow that to happen?
In the case of Adamsky, at one point he described being taken aboard a mother ship and saw a room full of “lovely young women in diaphanous clothing, working at keyboards, programming baby saucers” which were sent out hither and yon in a beautiful pantomime. Basically programming recon drones, just as we would if we visited an alien, possibly hostile planet- heck we do it here to our own citizens. My point is- the beings these people were in contact with may not have been human at all, but reptiles or who knows what, projecting into the minds of these hapless folks what they wanted them to see. When they had carried out their mission, they were discarded- and the same will happen to the current cast of characters. If the puppet masters see their house of cards beginning to topple, chances are they will go scorched earth- no loose ends.

Good question. The Pleiadians will, like the C's, no doubt have observed the prime directive concerning the complete application of free will, whereas the Lizzies/Greys will often just choose to ignore it. Presumably Meier fell into their well laid trap and the Pleiadians just had to let him go along with it rather than interfere with his free will.

Do not forget that the C's gave Laura an ancient precedent for this in the Jewish patriarch Abraham, who in his Moses guise fell into a similar trap whereby he was deceived by the Lizzies:
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Q: (L) Who was Yahweh.

A: Fictional being.

Q: (L) Who was the god that spoke to Moses on the mount?

A: Audible projection of Lizards.

Q: (L) Did Moses at any time realize that he had been duped by the Lizzies?

A: No.

And

Q: (L) Where did Moses get his knowledge?

A: Us.

Q: (L) Okay, you told us before that he saw or interacted with a holographic projection created by the Lizard Beings. Was that the experience on Mount Sinai?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, well, if he got knowledge from you, did he get this prior to the interactions with the Lizard beings?

A: Yes. He was corrupted by imagery. He was deceived by the imagery a la Joseph Smith, for example.

Q: (L) Are you saying that Joseph Smith, the recipient of the Mormon texts, was deceived by the Lizards also?

A: Yes. They do that a lot.

Hence, Meier and Adamsky would appear to have found themselves in exalted company when it came to being deceived by the Lizzies. Perhaps they, like Moses and Joseph Smith, never even realised they had been played.
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[MJF]

The information on Adamsky and others can be found in Timothy Good’s excellent book “Alien Base” of which I own a copy. I highly recommend it.

I do too. In fact he wrote several books which contain a large volume of contactee cases some of which deal with contact with the good guys as well, i.e., the Nordics. There are some amazing stories related in his works. Most observers think that Good himself had been a contactee, although I am not aware that he ever described any direct contact of his own with extra-terrestrials. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this though.​

 

[MJF]

Matthew Pines is a really interesting and smart guy. Here he is discussing all sorts of things (politics, physics, metaphysics, UFOs) with Jesse Michels. He even speculates about timeline manipulations and if groups of people may have the ability to use techniques, perhaps involving consciousness amplified with technology, to "cause nearby minds to all shift" to a new timeline.

Has he been reading the C's transcripts do you think?

 

[tschai]

Most observers think that Good himself had been a contactee, although I am not aware that he ever described any direct contact of his own with extra-terrestrials

I don’t recall Mr. Good saying anything about him being a contactee either, unless he did in a book I have not read. I’m with you, if anyone knows differently, please share with us. Always delighted to learn new facts.

 

[MJF]

I don’t recall Mr. Good saying anything about him being a contactee either, unless he did in a book I have not read. I’m with you, if anyone knows differently, please share with us. Always delighted to learn new facts.

Actually, I recall him mentioning sending out some sort of telepathic message on one occasion seeking contact with an extra-terrestrial and then meeting someone who sat next to him who he thought might have been responding to his call at a psychic level, but whether this could be viewed as direct contact I don't know as it didn't sound very definitive to me. Unfortunately, my recollection of this episode is sketchy at best as it is many years ago since I read it.​

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Actually, I recall him mentioning sending out some sort of telepathic message on one occasion seeking contact with an extra-terrestrial and then meeting someone who sat next to him who he thought might have been responding to his call at a psychic level, but whether this could be viewed as direct contact I don't know as it didn't sound very definitive to me. Unfortunately, my recollection of this episode is sketchy at best as it is many years ago since I read it.​

Yep, I think he relates his three incidents like this in "Earth", his last book. He's also talked about them in interviews. The most intense was a private salon/conference he attended with some elite people in Poland. He's convinced one of the people there, who also gave a talk, was a Nordic. After the talk, he lost all memory of what the guy had said, and no one else who attended could (or would) give him any information about the guy.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Has he been reading the C's transcripts do you think?

Always possible, but I don't think so. Just a hunch based on the way he speaks. He seems to have come up with a lot of similar ideas just based on the math/physics frameworks he's operating under (e.g. Gorard).

 

[tschai]

Actually, I recall him mentioning sending out some sort of telepathic message on one occasion seeking contact with an extra-terrestrial and then meeting someone who sat next to him who he thought might have been responding to his call at a psychic level, but whether this could be viewed as direct contact I don't know as it didn't sound very definitive to me.

Now that you mention it, I do recall him saying he sent out a mental message inviting anyone of extraterrestrial origin who would like to make contact to come to his location, and a young woman of extraordinary appearance came and sat down beside him, acknowledged him with a smile and nod. It has been a while since I have read the book, need to dig it out and read it again after all this. I have a few books that are classic UFO books, and hard to find- been reading about this subject for decades.

 

[MJF]

Now that you mention it, I do recall him saying he sent out a mental message inviting anyone of extraterrestrial origin who would like to make contact to come to his location, and a young woman of extraordinary appearance came and sat down beside him, acknowledged him with a smile and nod. It has been a while since I have read the book, need to dig it out and read it again after all this. I have a few books that are classic UFO books, and hard to find- been reading about this subject for decades.

Yep - that's the incident I was thinking of.