Imminent Alien Disclosure?

One thing I've never understood with these crash retrieval programs: given that UFOs have not, and are not crashing only in the US, how are these retrieval units supposedly able to get to all of the crash sites around the world without hindrance and in time before some 'local tribesmen' get to the craft? Surely some UFOs have crashed, for instance, somewhere in Africa – wouldn't the locals have been able to take pictures and stuff before the Legacy-guys show up?

I have heard the procedure is that local military forces make contact with US special forces which can be on-site within a couple of hours. The local military will just cordon off the crash site and enforce a news blackout.
 

Coulthard's fascinating interview with Jake Barber, the helicopter pilot whistleblower who has come forward to speak about his crash retrieval program experience.

The whole thing is awesome. There's video of the 'mystery egg'. He describes telepathic communication with the objects - he talks about becoming overwhelmed by emotion - a heady mix of deep sadness, incredible beauty, song, love, etc., and the feeling of being possessed by a pure spiritual force. Hey says that this 'beautiful spirit' is still caring for him, guiding his life and providing protection to this day.

Him and his team also had severe health reactions afterwards, and Dr Gary Nolan gives his opinion that it looks like some sort of radiation exposure.

Apparently There are government psionic teams who can summon craft - with their minds!

It was fascinating and the egg video did not disappoint, in my view.

I just hope Jake, Coulthard and their audience all place equal weight on the horrible after effects as they do the spiritual bliss state when considering what might be the nature of this 'NHI'.
 
The whole 'beautiful, spiritual telepathic UAP connection' however sounds like an even bigger setup. A functional UAP would have no need to be moved by a helicopter after landing. Perhaps this 'summoned craft' was intended to give Jake just the sort of experience he described, in order to implant the idea of 'good UAPs' into his mind. Notice that he followed up this story with a description of negative medical consequences which then occurred. Doesn't sound like the being associated with the UAP had Jake's safety or welfare in mind.

Just like a grooming or hoovering tactic that a dark personality might use.
 
To me, "true" disclosure, aliens (in whatever form - nuts/bolts, hyperdimensional etc) etc is a global event, not an American/Western event. Whilst there's definitely big movements in the US around this subject, I can't help but wonder whether all these is just "cultural" evolution rather than actual real "aliens" are here, look at that mothership in the sky type stuff that you don't need Twitter or the media to like tell you about, you just need to go outside your house and see with your own eyes type event! Hopefully made sense - a global event speaks for itself, a cultural event is projected by media/twitter/talking heads etc.

I'm only saying this, as to me, dependent on what environment we immerse ourselves in, what we are exposed to might appear like this is universal but this may only be perception rather than actual universal event. I basically doubt that the other non-golden billion population of the world are concerned about disclosure or are even aware of this cultural phenomenon taking root in the US. 🤷

To me, what's happening now is simply cultural conditioning of a specific group of people i.e. the golden billion.
 
(as can be seen by the many 'Mork and Mindy' egg-themed posts on X)
LOL! Yeah, the "Mork and Mindy" association popped up for me as well. Maybe that was intended?

One thing I've never understood with these crash retrieval programs: given that UFOs have not, and are not crashing only in the US, how are these retrieval units supposedly able to get to all of the crash sites around the world without hindrance and in time before some 'local tribesmen' get to the craft?
Well, historically the majority of the crash sites have been in the US because that's where most of the UAP activity is (@Approaching Infinity can correct me if I'm wrong). And as far as the locals getting to a crash site first, maybe that happens a lot more often than we realise but active coverup plus human normalcy bias has tended to favour the control system in the past?
 
The whole 'beautiful, spiritual telepathic UAP connection' however sounds like an even bigger setup. A functional UAP would have no need to be moved by a helicopter after landing. Perhaps this 'summoned craft' was intended to give Jake just the sort of experience he described, in order to implant the idea of 'good UAPs' into his mind. Notice that he followed up this story with a description of negative medical consequences which then occurred. Doesn't sound like the being associated with the UAP had Jake's safety or welfare in mind.

The psychich component is interesting, and I agree with you Ryan that the whole "best thing/feeling ever" that Barber described makes one think. Maybe his proximity to the UAP temporarily opened up some portal to highter dimensions through which he got these 'divine sensations'? And then he goes on to say that "this feeling is still with me, and it's protecting me".

We may have an explanation from a previous session as to what happened to him emotionally.

October 21, 1995

Q: (L) We're back. I want to talk about the Roswell video that we've all watched. Now Terry continues to insist that it was not Roswell, that there's something... He just can't get into it. I would like to know if that video is of alien beings that were retrieved from the crash of Roswell.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK. Why did so many people report seeing aliens that had only four fingers and [toes], you know, like the standard greys?

A: Multiple subjects.

A: OK, so there was more than one type of alien on that one craft?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK, the story that came from the camera man who shot the video was that there were these four beings. One was dead, and three were standing outside the craft, crying and clutching boxes to their chests. Is this an accurate...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What were those boxes?

A: Storage of translation matrix group to individual, emotion stabilization units.

Q:
(L) What is a translation Matrix?

A:
Translates foreign thought patterns, not needed except in emergency loss of electromagnetic grid wave.

Q:
(L) OK, what is an emotion stabilization unit used for?

A:
Variety of uses, mostly for survival by neutralizing thoughts of harm by emotionally charged beings, not accustomed to shocking turn of events.

Q:
(L) Were the harmful thoughts that they were designed to neutralize, thoughts of other beings?

A: Yes.

Q:
(L) Well, they didn't work very well, did they?

A: Did not have chance to activate.

Q: (L) OK, so if they had had the opportunity to activate these boxes, they would have been more or less able to extricate themselves from this unpleasant situation?

A: Not extricate, lessen negative aspects.


It may have been the same or a similar technology and if so his experience is in a sense in accord with the description above by the C's of this technology. It certainly reinforce that is experience was genuine, that he is describing the retrieval honestly.
 
The whole thing is awesome. There's video of the 'mystery egg'. He describes telepathic communication with the objects - he talks about becoming overwhelmed by emotion - a heady mix of deep sadness, incredible beauty, song, love, etc., and the feeling of being possessed by a pure spiritual force. Hey says that this 'beautiful spirit' is still caring for him, guiding his life and providing protection to this day.

Him and his team also had severe health reactions afterwards, and Dr Gary Nolan gives his opinion that it looks like some sort of radiation exposure.

Great! Advanced spiritual beings (disk shaped craft actually) that fill you full of love AND make your skin peel off and damage your heart!

Apparently There are government psionic teams who can summon craft - with their minds!

Yeah, cells phones are so early 21st century! So undergrounders have an official name: "govt. psionic teams".
 
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It was fascinating and the egg video did not disappoint, in my view.

I was pretty non-plussed by it. It could be anything 'egg shaped'. And the way the narrator was trying to convince us all that this was clear evidence of a UAP was really suspect IMO. "Look how it rolls over when it is placed on the ground". Wow. :rolleyes: Of course, he's prolly doing it for ratings. As of now, I'm calling this whole show a stitch up.
 
Reads like an " Ashtar command "tm advertise. Is @Ca. quoting Steven Greer without using quotation marks ?
I quoted no one. This was the dialog posted by the video you are referring to.
Where is this information about the Galactic Federation coming from?
This is Kab's comment, and I thought his tweet emphasized a cautionary point about Greer's agenda disclosure.
If the tweet I posted created noise, then my apologies.

 
I was pretty non-plussed by it. It could be anything 'egg shaped'. And the way the narrator was trying to convince us all that this was clear evidence of a UAP was really suspect IMO. "Look how it rolls over when it is placed on the ground". Wow. :rolleyes: Of course, he's prolly doing it for ratings. As of now, I'm calling this whole show a stitch up.

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Coulthard's fascinating interview with Jake Barber, the helicopter pilot whistleblower who has come forward to speak about his crash retrieval program experience.

The whole thing is awesome. There's video of the 'mystery egg'. He describes telepathic communication with the objects - he talks about becoming overwhelmed by emotion - a heady mix of deep sadness, incredible beauty, song, love, etc., and the feeling of being possessed by a pure spiritual force. Hey says that this 'beautiful spirit' is still caring for him, guiding his life and providing protection to this day.

Him and his team also had severe health reactions afterwards, and Dr Gary Nolan gives his opinion that it looks like some sort of radiation exposure.

Apparently There are government psionic teams who can summon craft - with their minds!

I noticed that Jake Barber seems to have his ”eyes wide open” throughout the interview segments; in other scenarios, where he is off-interview, he doesn’t look to be so ”awestruck”.

Perhaps he is trying (subconsciously/consciously) to come across as honest and trustworthy when telling his story (he very likely had a genuine experience) in a high-stakes situation, with memories of the event coming back, etc. That "spiritual telepathic UAP connection" could still be doing its thing too.

Anyways, just an observation!


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Something I've mentioned on the NJ drones thread, but bears repeating here I think; the only reference most people have for "aliens" and particularly "alien invasion", is Hollywood movies. In the large majority of those movies, the aliens are decidedly evil, with the plots being, more or less, humans fighting against and defeating the "aliens". I'm leaving out movies like ET etc. that present an alien as cuddly, since they don't involve invasions.

Two questions this brought up for me were:

1) why have so many alien invasion movies depicted the aliens as evil? Maybe it's just that the archetypal idea of being "invaded" has always been a negative one for human beings. Another possible answer is the in the second question.

2) Assuming it's possible for "thor's pantheum" types to influence human creative endeavors like movies (as suggested by the Cs), why have the script writers for most modern day alien invasion movies not been "influenced" to make the aliens a lot more friendly, and thus prepare the ground for widespread acceptance at some point in the future? Maybe it would involve some kind of crossing the line vis a vis free will. On the same idea, perhaps script writers of these movies have been influenced, but in a more protective/positive direction, to avoid widespread acceptance of any possible planned mass invasion.

Anyway, presuming any "aliens" are planning some kind of disclosure in the near future, and presuming they want to create a good impression on humanity when they do it (or in the process leading up to it), they would be well-advised to not present themselves in a way that even remotely resembles any themes from Hollywood movies about aliens.

Assuming these premises are true, then the process of reasoning above necessarily produces a conclusion that allows me to assert with 78.24% certainty that any future disclosure will not be along the lines of alien invasion themes as presented in Hollywood movies. :wizard:

Moreover, it's possible there won't be any "aliens" at all. "Space craft"? Maybe, but in an increasingly hi-tech world, including military tech, any such craft may be superficially indistinguishable from human tech craft, and therefore much more acceptable.
 
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One thing I've never understood with these crash retrieval programs: given that UFOs have not, and are not crashing only in the US, how are these retrieval units supposedly able to get to all of the crash sites around the world without hindrance and in time before some 'local tribesmen' get to the craft? Surely some UFOs have crashed, for instance, somewhere in Africa – wouldn't the locals have been able to take pictures and stuff before the Legacy-guys show up?
The CIA's "Office of Global Access."


While none of the UFO figures have talked about it yet, their sensors are probably of such quality that they can spot crashes instantaneously. There are a handful of stories on the books where locals did get there first, but naturally no one believes their stories. There's actually an African CR story - I think it was called the Kalahari incident. In that case, I think the local SA military got there first, then coordinated with the Americans.
Well, historically the majority of the crash sites have been in the US because that's where most of the UAP activity is (@Approaching Infinity can correct me if I'm wrong).
Could be, but there's no way of knowing, since all such statistics depend on UFO reports, and UFO reports are highly biased toward the English-speaking world, which has the most and best-operated reporting centers. I'd guess that it's a combination: U.S. does have more activity, but those numbers are greatly inflated in the statistics because of reporting bias.

As for the egg, here's an analysis. Definitely not a balloon/aerostat, but nothing to confirm what it is. Whatever it is, it is heavy:


Edit: Billy revised his opinion: not that heavy.

 
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Coulthard's fascinating interview with Jake Barber, the helicopter pilot whistleblower who has come forward to speak about his crash retrieval program experience.

One of the most interesting bits of insight imo, and in the context of the larger issue of Disclosure, came when Coulthard asked Barber about the ontological shock that the public, he thought, is likely to experience - now hearing that not only are the aliens real, but that telepathy and psychic powers exist as well.

Barber's response:

"I don't think there's going to be an ontological shock. I think its going to be an ontological relief. Because I think everyone deep down knows that there's more to life than what we're being told and experiencing like - not only is it not shocking but it should be welcome."

There are a couple of things that seem to support the thought that, among a good many (but not necessarily all), 'Disclosure' may come as something of a relief. Though it is likely, too, to be something of a mixed bag on the whole I think.

Clif High's web-bots and scouring of predictive language from the internet speak to this sort of thing; that there are deeper levels of knowledge that the public already has, that just come out, and are reflected in, the words and expressions we use (because of an innate but unacknowledged psychic ability). Regardless of whether Clif is able to always interpret/assess this language correctly, the implication is that there are large segments of the population that know things, even things of 'Sci-fi' or woo nature, atemporally - but don't know that they know them from, or at, a conscious level. So there's that.

Jeffrey Tucker recently had an interesting article on a phenomenon called 'preference falsification cascade' (based on the research of economist Timur Kuran). Its basically the idea is that a good many people hide their preferences or beliefs because of cultural, societal or political pressures to conform to the dominant status quo position held by the then-current regime in power.

He puts this idea in the context of being pro-Trump, and hiding it until just recently, but we can also recognize it in any number of other issues I think.

Anyway, from the article:

"Kuran speaks of preference falsification, which is "the act of misrepresenting one's genuine wants under perceived social pressures." It is different from self-censorship because people outright lie about what they really think. When the lie persists long enough, people begin to believe the lie and essentially live fake lives, proclaiming fealty to one idea while holding another one in their heart of hearts."


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"It's a tiny case but the problem is ubiquitous. It's all about social pressure, peer expectations, the desire not to stick out, the drive to conform. It's the problem of the Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone says they are beautiful even though he is naked. The story sounds rarified but in fact it is a driving feature of current society and probably all of human history."


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"In either event, public opinion was solidly on the side of the regime. But in each case, something changes and the mood changes. The hidden truth becomes exposed. The esoteric becomes exoteric. People start speaking their minds and acting according to their actual views. In each case, the regime lost control and the prevailing orthodoxy collapsed."

This is what Kuran calls the moment of the preference cascade. It can happen all at once. Seemingly out of nowhere, people reject the caste system, communism, and DEI hiring, behaving as if each system was always awful and had to go immediately."


So even if this latest interview isn't exactly mind-blowing for us here, what is impressive, imo, is how well it serves as another information-building block towards a generally acknowledged and very public acceptance of the alien reality and what many already know on an subconscious level. Many people, I think, will finally feel "allowed" to speak of these things openly and perhaps refute the naysayers and those who aren't yet keeping apace of all the credible whistle-blowing, congressional hearings, etc. - coming to the fore.

Things are unrolling so quickly and credibly now that, if I had to guess, it will only be another year or two (or maybe sooner), before it becomes a major topic of thought/reflection and open discussion - and not just part of an extended and then quashed news cycle; a 'preference cascade' is well on it's way to occurring in other words. And as Barber says, its going to be an "ontological relief". At least for some of us.
 
Something I've mentioned on the NJ drones thread, but bears repeating here I think; the only reference most people have for "aliens" and particularly "alien invasion", is Hollywood movies. In the large majority of those movies, the aliens are decidedly evil, with the plots being, more or less, humans fighting against and defeating the "aliens". I'm leaving out movies like ET etc. that present an alien as cuddly, since they don't involve invasions.

Two questions this brought up for me were:

1) why have so many alien invasion movies depicted the aliens as evil? Maybe it's just that the archetypal idea of being "invaded" has always been a negative one for human beings. Another possible answer is the in the second question.

2) Assuming it's possible for "thor's pantheum" types to influence human creative endeavors like movies (as suggested by the Cs), why have the script writers for most modern day alien invasion movies not been "influenced" to make the aliens a lot more friendly, and thus prepare the ground for widespread acceptance at some point in the future? Maybe it would involve some kind of crossing the line vis a vis free will. On the same idea, perhaps script writers of these movies have been influenced, but in a more protective/positive direction, to avoid widespread acceptance of any possible planned mass invasion.

Anyway, presuming any "aliens" are planning some kind of disclosure in the near future, and presuming they want to create a good impression on humanity when they do it (or in the process leading up to it), they would be well-advised to not present themselves in a way that even remotely resembles any themes from Hollywood movies about aliens.

Assuming these premises are true, then the process of reasoning above necessarily produces a conclusion that allows me to assert with 78.24% certainty that any future disclosure will not bear any resemblance to alien invasion themes as presented in Hollywood movies. :wizard:
I suppose by preconditioning the world to expect malevolence at every turn, it sets the people up to be more easily knocked off their guard when a hand is extended in friendship (said spider to the fly). I think Rod Serling hit the nail on the head: “To Serve Man. It’s a cookbook!!” Talk about on the nose!! Definitely better than 21.76%!😂
 
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