Imminent Alien Disclosure?

Joe said:
Sure, but there's probably a spectrum. I'd say the average 4D STS are probably more entrenched in that pathway than the average 3D STS.
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I agree- if what we have been lead to understand is correct, 4D STS has chosen that path, so they are all in, so to speak. Totally committed to their way of thinking, whereas we as 3D STS can choose to go against the program and adopt a more STO approach. As Yoda said “Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny”
 
taratai said:
But... in line with the Star Wars analogy...
...remember that Darth Vader chose to sacrifice himself in the end. And bring balance, to the Force, he did. 😉
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As did Kylo Ren- I don’t want this to devolve into a Star Wars themed thing, but what the hey- I love Star Wars and maybe at the rate things are going we might be living in a Galaxy far far away.
But you have to wonder, bearing in mind the Jedi and Sith are fantasy- I don’t think they are 4th Density, so they would not necessarily follow the rules that might apply to 4th Density denizens. So they would be able to make an STO choice, which they did in the end. 4D STS would find that incomprehensible and would not be able to make such sacrifices.
 
Niall said:
Barber, Grusch, and Coulthart at a 'UFO Summoning Event' in the heart of New Age Darkness, Esalen, CA:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892366229005889661

According to this Reddit post, this took place last October, but I can't find confirmation of that.
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In other words, a bunch of billionaire hippies, and some scientists and other personalities. Coulthart is out of his depth here. What he says about the one guy shouting out, "We love you!!" is so cringey.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Some background:


In other words, a bunch of billionaire hippies, and some scientists and other personalities. Coulthart is out of his depth here. What he says about the one guy shouting out, "We love you!!" is so cringey.
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Cringey, and wide open to 'influence'. I understand why Barber is 'taken' in by this (due to his 'love-bomb' experience), but Grusch shouldn't be anywhere near it.
 
Niall said:
I understand why Barber is 'taken' in by this (due to his 'love-bomb' experience), but Grusch shouldn't be anywhere near it.
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I guess it shows that it doesn't matter what some wistleblowers believed or believe now about NHIs (that they are hostile). There will be an attempt to subvert them and change their views, and what will count is if they will be able to see through the manipulation.

I do hope that Grusch was there for educational purposes only, but will see. This is not a good sign.

Joe said:
Good god, this guy is delusional.
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His "happy happy" behaviour and excessive usage of the word "beautiful" (only Trump can get away with it :-D) makes me think that he was probably also subjected to "love bombing".
 
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Joe said:
Good god, this guy is delusional.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884156435984179633
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I really dislike what he implies:

- Loving engagement makes these orbs come closer: Meaning that if they don't come to you it's because you're evil or not "loving" enough. (Manipulation making you think that your natural and healthy aversion and reaction to them is wrong and you're somewhat evil if you feel that) It also makes me think of the same argument being used in the subject of massive immigration. I mean, perhaps there's no problem with a bit of immigration here and there but when there's massive immigration from a completely different culture into another culture, it is natural for the local people to feel some distress and what's been done is that they turn that into "you're evil if you feel that, you should love them".

- They come closer to younger half-naked people because they're so innocent and loving: Meaning that their interest in children is because they're oh so nice and loving, and we adults aren't loving enough. (Manipulation again telling us that our natural adult tendency to be a bit more suspicious and protective is evil, while hiding that the reason they 'like' more 'loving young' people is because they are more naïve and easily manipulated). Also makes me thinks about the effort to kind of infantilize society.

So, yeah, so bad that they're into that.
 
I'm seeing that this psychic CE5 is starting to become more popular on the internet and more and more people are trying it. Below is a podcast with a guy who had a very negative experience just recently, nothing "beautiful" about that.
The podcast features an interview with Digby Ferno, a UFO experiencer and podcaster, who shares his recent CE5 (Close Encounter of the 5th kind) experiences. CE5 refers to human-initiated contact with extraterrestrials.

Digby recounts how he started researching the phenomenon after a UFO sighting at age 11. He had a life-changing experience during the COVID-19 pandemic, which led him to sell his business and start a podcast about UFOs.

Digby tried CE5 in Morocco, where he was living at the time, and reported a strange experience where he was taken from his bed and found himself in a white room with various beings, including mantis-like creatures. He had marks on his legs after the experience, which he believes were caused by some kind of medical procedure.

However, his more recent experiences in the UK have been different and more frightening. He reported being paralyzed and unable to move or speak while beings were in his room, and felt a sense of malice from one of them.

Digby wonders if he has somehow attracted these experiences by researching the phenomenon and trying CE5. He also discusses the idea that stress and trauma may be connected to these experiences, as many people report having encounters during difficult times in their lives.

The conversation also touches on the idea that some people may be more prone to these experiences due to their psychic abilities or sensitivity to the paranormal. Digby shares his own experiences with synchronicities and precognition, and notes that he has a strong intuition that often warns him of upcoming events.

The discussion also covers how to approach the topic with children, and Digby shares his approach to being open with his kids about his experiences while avoiding scaring them.

Overall, the podcast explores the mysterious and often frightening world of CE5 experiences, and encourages listeners to approach the topic with an open mind and a critical perspective.
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Timestamp of his negative experience:
 
Keit said:
His "happy happy" behaviour and excessive usage of the word "beautiful" (only Trump can get away with it :-D) makes me think that he was probably also subjected to "love bombing".
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Yeah, I can understand that someone who has no clue on the subject can be totally misled by 'the experience', particularly if 'it felt nice'. (The Cs did mention at some point that STS beings like us had a tendency to focus on the 'experience' side of things. Perhaps we can conclude from that that STO beings would focus on meaning, purpose or knowledge instead.) He and his pals have no clue, or don't want to know, that feelings both nice and not-nice can be induced by aliens, for one thing.

Still, it is quite alarming to see how fast and dramatically Coulthart changed his discourse. He seemed up to now a fairly reasonable and open-minded guy, but not committed to any particular interpretation. He goes to Esalen, sees some orbs and suddenly he is gone full-hippie! Now imagine what will happen to the masses when 'they' decide to appear in full view as 'loving angels' or something. It will be the covid-stupidty x 10. Knowledge protects!
 
The UAP/UFO disclosure psyop is promoting a new religion of sorts via social media. Will channeling UFOs replace the 'Tide Pod' challenge? While some are turning toward traditional Christianity, UFO saviors fit the bill for today's more tech-savvy innocents.

Remember how spiritualism became a huge thing from the mid-1800s to the turn of the century in America and some of the reasons for it:

Why did Spiritualism become such a phenomenon during the mid-1800s? First, we need to look at the two previous centuries. The 16th and 17th centuries in America were dominated by a very puritanical form of Christianity. Anyone who practiced anything like Spiritualism during that time would have been risking their life. It is estimated that thousands of people were executed for witchcraft in Europe and America during those centuries. Life was very rural, harsh, and rigid and people were held to very strict mores. It was a matter of life or death.

America was drastically changing in the mid-1800s. There was more industrialization and urbanization, which meant cities were growing and work was evolving. Inventions and science were transforming how people looked at the world around them. Immigrants were bringing in new religious practices and beliefs into American towns. There was literature and scientific discoveries that challenged religious beliefs and the Bible. America was on the verge of a Civil War and tensions were high. People were looking for assurance because life seemed uncertain.

Another big factor for the rise of Spiritualism was that people were not as comforted by traditional Christian beliefs when loved ones died. The death of children especially led parents to seek comfort in other places besides their community church. Spiritualism offered grieving people solace while coping with their loss. All these factors helped create an opening for Spiritualism to rise.
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www.historyisnowmagazine.com

The Rise of Spiritualism in 19th Century America — History is Now Magazine, Podcasts, Blog and Books | Modern International and American history

Spiritualism was a religious movement that gained momentum in America during the mid-1800s. The movement essentially held that people could communicate with people have died – and enabled people to do that through mediums. Angie Grandstaff explains.
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Some of these factors are (still) at work today it seems.
 
Niall said:
Cringey, and wide open to 'influence'. I understand why Barber is 'taken' in by this (due to his 'love-bomb' experience), but Grusch shouldn't be anywhere near it.
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Keit said:
I guess it shows that it doesn't matter what some wistleblowers believed or believe now about NHIs (that they are hostile). There will be an attempt to subvert them and change their views, and what will count is if they will be able to see through the manipulation.

I do hope that Grusch was there for educational purposes only, but will see. This is not a good sign.
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Yep. I mentioned elsewhere that Elizondo hedged his endorsement of Barber. He basically said Barber is who he says he is, by all indications has done the things he says he's done, BUT he is telling "his truth." He didn't come right out and say it, but I get the impression he was referring to Barber's love and light claims. Elizondo, while he always tries to be diplomatic and rarely badmouths people (except for having a go at Steven Greer every once in a while), clearly comes down on the side of: "the aliens pose a threat to humanity."

I would think Grusch was on the same page as Elizondo. Barber strikes me not as human COINTELPRO, but cosmic COINTELPRO. So if he's working to subvert guys like Grusch and Coulthart, that sucks. The other option is like Keit said, Grusch may be there for educational/scientific purposes. That's basically how everyone who worked on Skinwalker Ranch has approached it, and many of them seem to have retained some objectivity, at the expense of some paranormal interference in their lives. That comes with the territory of getting into this field in general, so the way I look at it, it's like a test of character. We'll see who passes through intact and who gets subverted in the process.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Yep. I mentioned elsewhere that Elizondo hedged his endorsement of Barber. He basically said Barber is who he says he is, by all indications has done the things he says he's done, BUT he is telling "his truth." He didn't come right out and say it, but I get the impression he was referring to Barber's love and light claims. Elizondo, while he always tries to be diplomatic and rarely badmouths people (except for having a go at Steven Greer every once in a while), clearly comes down on the side of: "the aliens pose a threat to humanity."

I would think Grusch was on the same page as Elizondo. Barber strikes me not as human COINTELPRO, but cosmic COINTELPRO. So if he's working to subvert guys like Grusch and Coulthart, that sucks. The other option is like Keit said, Grusch may be there for educational/scientific purposes. That's basically how everyone who worked on Skinwalker Ranch has approached it, and many of them seem to have retained some objectivity, at the expense of some paranormal interference in their lives. That comes with the territory of getting into this field in general, so the way I look at it, it's like a test of character. We'll see who passes through intact and who gets subverted in the process.
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While ma'boy Trumpy is speeding with 100 EO/hour the 'UapCiaCamp' is trying hard to keep relevant .... in the USA. I kid you not but in other parts of the world no one gives a flying CH4 emission in space for what the 'disclosurers' say or do or even who they are.

If there is to be we will all see. Meanwhile, the girls in my immediate family (myself included) strongly believe us humans are the aliens on Earth and we are happy with that.
 
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