Imminent Alien Disclosure?

The "downloading" seems to be some sort of attempt to overcome that limitation. However, there must be some additional reason, as they can already control and manipulate 3D beings from 4D, so why do they even need to "download into" 3D bodies?
The session from June 10, 1995 talked about 4D STO beings sometimes also choosing to become "walk-ins" in 3D bodies where the 3D soul already decided to leave.

That was mentioned in the context of how many 4D STO beings are currently here in 3D on the planet and I extrapolated that this may be one of the 4D STO "travel methods" to 3D Earth instead of something like spaceships..

(T) Let me ask a question... do all 4th density beings that are here on the planet at this time know that they are 4th density beings? Are they aware of who they are and what they are?

A: Well, that is an interesting question because it leads to another question: Are all 4th density STO beings of the same nature, physically, psychically, spiritually, et cetera?

Q: (J) In other words, is there a connection?

A: No, that is not the point being given. The point being given is: Are they all of the same orientation? Or is it possible that they are of different orientation?

Q: (T) Orientation... how so?

A: Physical nature, spiritual nature, psychic nature, awareness of self and destiny?

[...]

A: Now, the point of our response a while back was to make you aware of the tools that you possess for discovering the answer or answers to your question or questions regarding awareness and identification of 4th density STO beings in your midst, or the possibility of same. And, we have observed that you have made some small progress toward that end. However, one problem that has, if you will, cropped up, is that you have now scattered or separated into two divergent thought patterns on the same subject. We suggest that you reorient yourselves so that your questions, goals or objectives to be answered are one and the same.

Q: (T) Okay. (J) Well, we started off asking are all of them aware of state and then we went off into what do they look like and how to recognize them... (T) Well, physically, I believe that they would all look different in order to blend. They can't all be the same. (SV) Would they be aware that they are a 4th density being? (J) Yeah, that's, that's... (T) Awareness, the Cassiopaeans have indicated that the awareness may be at different levels.

A: Maybe at different levels, but, more importantly, the orientation of a 4th density STO being or beings may be of a different nature.

Q: (L) Do you mean orientation not in terms of STO versus STS, but orientation regarding what?

A: Nature of physicality, spirituality, psychic ability or awareness.

Q: (J) They might not be human?

A: That is one possibility. But, there are many others. And, the subject matter, or the definition of subject matters can be a cross reference. For example have you not heard of the popular written work by one referred to as Ruth Montgomery, known as "Strangers Among Us."

Q: (T) Yes.

A: And what does that written work detail?

Q: (L) Isn't that the one that is about "Walk-Ins?" (J) I was just going to ask about walk-ins. (SV) No, that's different. (T) No, it's not about walk-ins. (SV) This is about aliens that are here, living amongst us... it could be the butcher, the cashier... I read it so long ago... (T) There's a series of them; she has five or six books.

A: You have the written works confused.

Q: (L) Which one is this?

A: Strangers among us refers to the phenomenon identified by Ruth Montgomery as "Walk-Ins."

Q: (L) But, you have said in previous sessions that this rarely occurs.

A: Rare is relative.

Q: (SV) Ruth Montgomery also said that sometimes walk-ins don't realize who or what they are.

A: Rare also may be transitory in nature.

Q: (J) You mean walk in and walk back out again?

A: No. Frequency is not necessarily static according to the time line, as you measure time.

Q: (T) I have not done a lot of research on walk-ins, what is the definition of a walk-in?

A: A walk-in, as described by Ruth Montgomery, is a soul that has chosen to take over the body that was vacated by another soul that has chosen, at some level of awareness, to depart for varying reasons. In this way, a higher level entity can enter into the body that was previously occupied by a different level entity, in the form of a soul, that is to say.

Q:
(T) A fourth level soul can then enter the body of a third level?

A: Or perhaps a fourth level soul... remember, as we have described to you before, levels one through four, more appropriately density levels one through four, all involve short wave cycle recycling, or, as you refer to it, reincarnation. Because, each and every one of these density levels has a soul and a physical body marriage, as it were, in progressive life experiences. Each and every one of these density levels involves movement to the fifth level of density for contemplation during the cycling process. It is level six, which is the first level where short wave cycle recycling is no longer necessary because there is no more physical orientation. Therefore, all levels, one through four have a soul reflection of the physical body at all times when in physical state. And, therefore, reincarnation of various types, is at various points on the short wave cycle always possible, and, in fact, quite probable. Do you understand?

Q: (T) Somewhat. That's a lot to digest. (J) So, physicality is involved in levels one through four short wave recycling. (L) So, this means that a fourth density being can recycle through fifth density into a third density body?

A: That is one method that can be used, yes.

Q: (L) Can it also be that they can come directly from fourth density into a third density body, just as one of the options?

A: Yes.

Q:
(T) As a walk in. (L) And either could be considered a walk in?

A: That is correct.
 
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Yes and no.

I remember the session that talks about underground people, hibernation chambers, and very few heartbeats per hour.

That, combined with the variability of physicality, can lead to thinking about leaving the physical body and doing other things, such as using a 3D body.

Just an idea.
May 4, 1996


Q: (TK) Are they just like us only raised differently?

A: More complicated than that.

Q: (L) How long have they been doing this?

A: 14,000 years, approximately.

Q: (L) If they have been doing it that long, obviously the ones they have taken at the beginning have croaked and are of no use to replace anybody on the earth unless they have been replacing people from time to time for various reasons...

A: No, their technology makes yours look like Neanderthal by comparison! Hibernation tubes... One heartbeat per hour, for example.

November 23, 1996


Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?

A: Yes and no.

Q:
(L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that are 3rd?

A: The human types there are "bi-density."

Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!

A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to "regenerate."

Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in any density?

A: In 4th and 3rd.
 
The session from June 10, 1995 talked about 4D STO beings sometimes also choosing to become "walk-ins" in 3D bodies where the 3D soul already decided to leave.

That was mentioned in the context of how many 4D STO beings are currently here in 3D on the planet and I extrapolated that this may be one of the 4D STO "travel methods" to 3D Earth instead of something like spaceships..
Ah, okay. I always assumed that was a conscious incarnative process from 4th to 3rd, but I guess it could include 'multitasking' between densities. Maybe that would be like the 3D/4D version of "soul replication" at 5D/6D?
 
Ah, okay. I always assumed that was a conscious incarnative process from 4th to 3rd, but I guess it could include 'multitasking' between densities. Maybe that would be like the 3D/4D version of "soul replication" at 5D/6D?
Well, the C's also suggested that polar opposites in 3D are in fact a couple that share the same soul. So in a way we already have a single or singular soul that "simultaneously" lives in 2 physical bodies in our very realm of 3D. And the C's also suggested that the very cores of our beings reside in 5D, where apparently is no time.
So it seems things in reality are much more complex than our linear exclusive "one physical place at the single time" would allow. FWIW.
 
Well, the C's also suggested that polar opposites in 3D are in fact a couple that share the same soul. So in a way we already have a single or singular soul that "simultaneously" lives in 2 physical bodies in our very realm of 3D. And the C's also suggested that the very cores of our beings reside in 5D, where apparently is no time.
So it seems things in reality are much more complex than our linear exclusive "one physical place at the single time" would allow. FWIW.
Yep , also the whole current incarnation , can/could be a past and or future one as well , also presumably from a 5th density perspective , there might be plural incarnations going as well.
 
Yep , also the whole current incarnation , can/could be a past and or future one as well , also presumably from a 5th density perspective , there might be plural incarnations going as well.
Densities!!
What about dimensions?
Plurial incarnations.
Didn't the Cs said that our multiple life experiences would be downloaded into us when the time comes. Something like that if I remember correctly.
 
(fwiiw ) i commented with 5th because , apparently timelesness observation , from there , but ofc lateral dimensions must necessarily play a part in this , only explicit account of this , that i recall , is in Seth speaks iirc.
 
In a previous session (June 10, 1995) the C's said that a 4th density being can directly enter a 3rd density body and become a "walk-in". Since 4th density beings already have physical bodies, do they then have two bodies at the same time, one in 3D and one in 4D?

It is just one question to avoid compound questions.

I don’t think it’s about having multiple bodies, but simply lowering your frequency to match our 3D level of physicality. It’s all physical, it’s just that in 4D, physicality is experienced to its fullest extent, and everything that comes with it. I think this is what’s hard for 4D beings to do, lowering their frequency
 
Well, the C's also suggested that polar opposites in 3D are in fact a couple that share the same soul. So in a way we already have a single or singular soul that "simultaneously" lives in 2 physical bodies in our very realm of 3D. (...)
There's an account of splitting into Female / Male bodies in Atlantean times , as well as it's name , iirc from Edgar Cayce's , ( accordingly from a Dark Journalist show , a while ago , so ymmv )
 
Q: (aragorn) Do most autistic non-speakers have these abilities?
A: A large number, yes. But genetic modification is problematic.
Q: (L) Why is the genetic modification problematic?
A: If ensouled that can modify the modifications.
Q: (L) Are you suggesting that not all of them are ensouled?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So if they're not ensouled, if they're like OPs, then the genetic modification works. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Why are they modified in the womb by 4D STS to have these abilities? What's the point of modifying them?
A: Preparation for coming changes.

It's like they want 4D power and knowledge, but to live in 3D. It's really quite bizarre, and makes me wonder if it's something equivalent to a corporate Wall Street type with a "furry" fetish who wants to go and live in a jungle somewhere in the most primitive way, only keeping his wealth and 'creature comforts' nearby so he can avoid getting caught in any really difficult situations. :lol:
I thought "coming changes" means "going into 4D". i.e. 4D body. Probably they use bodies of these children to dupe others instead of using "Variable physicality" in 4D. Then the question of which method is better comes up. Not sure of answer though.
 
I don’t think it’s about having multiple bodies, but simply lowering your frequency to match our 3D level of physicality. It’s all physical, it’s just that in 4D, physicality is experienced to its fullest extent, and everything that comes with it. I think this is what’s hard for 4D beings to do, lowering their frequency

I think aspects of both theories are true. If you think about 3D humans, that’s not the awareness we start with. 1D is assimilated to the 2D zygote, which multiplies and develops to the point that it can seeds, a 3D consciousness, then it becomes assimilated to 3D as a foundational aspect of our experience of life. Then the Cs have mentioned we are in the process of growing hyperdimensional bodies, which are 4D. Eventually I think we will inhabit that body, which may be composed of other 3D, 2D, and 1D elements. And for a native 4D resident, I think they go through a similar organic ascension process of 1D, 2D, 3D, and then 4D, where facets of people in 3D they can manipulate are like 3D appendages on the hyperdimensional body. That’s why suffering is food, since it vectors awareness in such a manner that it seamlessly bonds with the structure of a 4D STS hyperdimensional body and allows that awareness to be controlled. 4D STO naturally get their sustenance elsewhere.
 
Jan, 25, 2025
(L) Is there some telepathy going on with these kids?
A: Yes
Q: (aragorn) Are these abilities a direct result of their condition?
(L) That is, they are autistic, right?
(aragorn) Yeah.
(L) Is it a direct result of their condition?
A: No.
Q: (aragorn) Did they just happen to inherit certain genes?
A: No. Modified in the womb.
Q:
(L) Modified by who? By who?
A: 4D STS. Who else?
Q: (aragorn) Do most autistic non-speakers have these abilities?
A: A large number, yes. But genetic modification is problematic.
Q: (L) Why is the genetic modification problematic?
A: If ensouled that can modify the modifications.
Q:
(L) Are you suggesting that not all of them are ensouled?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So if they're not ensouled, if they're like OPs, then the genetic modification works. Is that it?
A:
Yes.
Q: (Joe) Why are they modified in the womb by 4D STS to have these abilities? What's the point of modifying them?
A: Preparation for coming changes.

(Joe) There's been a reduction from the last time we asked that question. There's been a reduction of 1 billion people. Was that because a lot of people aren't actually having children?

A: Partly.

Q: (Joe) That plus COVID.

(L) And probably because a lot of people who might've wanted kids can't get pregnant because of the vaccines. The vaccines have blocked pregnancies or caused miscarriages.

If there are more people dying and less women getting pregnant and (more?) having miscarriages because of COVID, it must be getting difficult to do these modifications in the womb. Maybe it's just a numbers thing with these guys. They've factored that they need x number of modified kids and anything above that is gravy.

So, is 4D STS making these modifications to OP women or to the OP fetuses/unborn? Both? Do I remember if the vax affected souled and unsouled wombs differently? I can't remember.
 

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