Potential USA Civil War is a rising topic

Crikey I just had a look around the organisers 50501 website. The whole thing is extremely well organised it has links to groups around the world. For example resources to support activism, the ‘Activist Handbook’ it includes tactics such as how to disable a tank.
 
Yeah, I don't know where they got the idea that she said that. Even Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused her of promoting violent demonstrations. In fact, in the original video you posted Sheinbaum said that everything should be solved without violence and through dialogue. Later Sheinbaum addressed Noem directly and said she never said that, playing a video of her actual words.
The confusion of the video from Benny Johnson reposted, original of Dom Lucre, was created with information/speech of P. Clauida Sheinbaum taking it out of context, implying with other captions from the recent events of the weekend riots events. That way it easy to imply that C. Sheinbaum is encouraging Mexicans in the US to riot. I guess Secretary Kristi Noem, got carried away by videos taken out of context, which is not surprising...the situation is extremely tense, with so many Mexican flags waving during the riots. Yesterday, P. Claudia Sheinbaum posted on her X account denying that she was in favor of “that call to violence.” In the morning, C. Sheinbaum met with Christopher Landau, Deputy Secretary of State, to discuss various issues related to Mexico-US relations. I assume they talked on the subject and cleared up the confusion.

I believe it was taken from this one (starting 48.17 regarding the tax on remittances, quote below at 49.31) , two weeks ago (May 24th, 2025), in the context that it is common for citizens to call their senators to express their disagreement with something they do not agree with. Here the short one.
We called on our compatriots who are there, many of whom already have dual nationality and continue to help their families, because Mexicans are supportive, to send letters and emails on social media to senators to tell them that we do not agree with this. And we will continue to inform because, if necessary, we will mobilize because we do not want taxes on remittances from our compatriots in the US to Mexico.
 
Man! Iv never found it so difficult to sort out an issue before. There appears the be a new issue every other day now. And most sources seem to be in on either twisting the truth or inflaming one side or the other.

E.g. today I am reading that the US State Dept is suggesting that non-essential person leave Iraq and several other countries in the middle east, because of increased tension. A big deal right? Well I cant find it, so I went to AI and asked, and it said "Yes!" (It added the exclamation point, not me)So I went to the State Department webpage..nothing there? Back to AI—What the hell AI? The answer: "Well not yet, but multiple news sources are saying" and "reports suggest"

Take home message 1) check, check, and double check sources, and 2) Distraction(s) are pretty darn high....wonder what they are distracting us from?

On the Mexico thing. If it still applies, the C's did say that Mexico and the US were in Kahoots. ? Would a short war with Mexico be of any benefit to both governments? Having said that, at the moment it is being presented more as a Liberal West Coast vs the Fed. situation.
 
Things that contribute to civil war...

I would say hardships: unemployment, homelessness, hunger, crime...

With this,all you need is an excuse to get groups at each others throats. So, it's no mystery as to the contributing factors, but the confounding part is that we expect solutions from groups who are themselves securing their own insulation from the depravity and cry: "Look over there! The injustice of it all!"

And so civil war is just an escalation of selfishness - where goodwill is siphoned off into the ruling class, and in turn we of goodwill and sensibility are faced with each other, forming smaller groups not unlike the rulers, and meant to fight for our standing in a hierarchy.

So a civil war is fought because in the hierarchy are the people at the bottom who are selfless, the lowest in this scheme and the most desperate and confused.

Enter migrants. People shunned in their own lands and run from their plight believing in a promised land, only to be slapped in the face with reality and led like armies into lands as unwitting warriors, wanting what others have - simple needs like food and shelter- but soon learn that they can climb the hierarchy, wanting for the needs of their own kind, but at the cost of displacing the native group... no problem.

This is global. Is it because of drought? Overpopulation? An opportunity for the ruling class to leverage groups against each other to keep them subdued? It is all these things. I think civil wars are inevitable, but can be mitigated by just being content with what you have if you have the basic needs met. And most people are content.
 
E.g. today I am reading that the US State Dept is suggesting that non-essential person leave Iraq and several other countries in the middle east, because of increased tension. A big deal right? Well I cant find it, so I went to AI and asked, and it said "Yes!" (It added the exclamation point, not me)So I went to the State Department webpage..nothing there? Back to AI—What the hell AI? The answer: "Well not yet, but multiple news sources are saying" and "reports suggest"
Might be this.
The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) has issued a rare advisory for the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, and Strait of Hormuz, warning of “increased tensions” that could spark military escalation directly affecting commercial shipping.

U.S. Naval Forces Command in Bahrain — home to the 5th Fleet and CENTCOM — has been placed on high alert.Families of American service members have been advised to prepare for possible evacuation amid rising regional tensions.

The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is preparing for an ordered evacuation due to heightened security risks, per U.S. and Iraqi sources.

The plan is to evacuate via commercial flights, but U.S. military support is on standby if needed.Earlier today, Iran’s Defense Minister warned Tehran would strike U.S. bases if conflict erupts or nuclear talks collapse.

The Associated Press claims that US State Department is authorizing the departure of non-essential personnel and Family Members from Bahrain and Kuwait.

Evacuation of non-essential personnel has reportedly begun at the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.Israeli officials said the IDF has been on extremely high alert in recent days for possible escalation with Iran. - Axios
 
Here is a website that seems to have been created for training and coordination of protests. As per their map they have protests scheduled in 6 cities ( Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, Charlotte, Phoenix ) on June 14th.
No Kings

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I was curious How many circles( larger uniform size black) in this map and asked chatGPT it said it is 725. One montreal one is also included.
There are 725 larger, uniform-sized black circles detected in the image.
Here's the image with the 725 black circles marked in red by chatgpt:
marked_large_black_circles.png
if you see chatgpt marked file, there are many dark circles are not red circles. so it has more than 725. This is assuming the locations in this map is not overhype. I am not sure how they are going coordinate thing big operation unless they are preparing for this for a LONG time. Most probably, they will use some cat and mouse game using AI to create a mess in few places and promote it as happened in all the places. If any thing serious happens, the logical option Trump has, is to declare emergency and clean the mess slowly.

how many cities, towns, villages in USA
The total number of cities, towns, and villages in the United States varies slightly depending on the classification used (such as by the U.S. Census Bureau or state governments), but here's a reliable breakdown:

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2023 data):
  • Total incorporated places (cities, towns, villages, and boroughs): 19,502
These include:
  • Cities: The most common designation
  • Towns: Used in many states like New England
  • Villages: More common in states like New York, Illinois, and Wisconsin
  • Boroughs: Used in Alaska and some parts of Pennsylvania
📘 Note: "Incorporated place" means a place with its own government. This doesn't include unincorporated communities, which are governed by counties or townships.

In addition to incorporated places, there are tens of thousands of unincorporated communities — but these are not counted in the official city/town/village tally.

If you want data by state, or separated into just cities, towns, or villages, I can break that down too.

Here’s a breakdown in large states with incorporated cities, towns, and villages:

State# of Incorporated EntitiesBreakdown
California483461 cities + 22 towns en.wikipedia.org
Colorado273198 towns + 73 cities + 2 consolidated entities
Massachusetts35159 cities + 292 towns
New Hampshire23413 cities + 221 towns
New York (villages)~556 villages(state also has 62 cities—not included)
 
Someone funded personal protective equipment for the rioters to help the fire burning?

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Seems there's a video of the distribution here:


The question is: is it widespread?
Take a look at the page showing logo’s of ‘partners’ in the event. I believe it’s full of NGO’s, like all of them, I’m not kidding, it’s weird. There are too many to scroll through so can not post a screen shot:
 
Now Alex Jones is running with this story and adding that the president of the Mexican Senate has a plan to annex southwest US. Really Alex. :rolleyes:
Whether it was predictive programming, a coincidence or something else - the last few seasons of the TV series "Homeland" include many striking parallels to what is going on right now.

This includes:

- An Alex Jones type character illegally working with the CIA to spread disinformation to create civil unrest.

- A new 'outsider' president who refuses to comply with CIA demands survives an assassination attempt organized by a poweful faction within the CIA

- Despite initially good intentions, the president enacts very authoritarian measures after the assassination attempt

- There is even a subplot of the Mossad and parts of the CIA trying to trick the US president into a war with Iran

- Civil unrest in the US organized by bot-farms and other CIA methods

This was filmed during Trump's first term, but seems to resemble much more closely what is happening now.
 
Some recent news I thought interesting and might tie into the rioting is drug busts. And cartels, they've been in the news somewhat...

One of the ICE raids wasn't about illegals, but was a drug bust involving 25 million dollars worth of meth. So it was mischaracterized. So maybe it is a drug war.

Another thing to consider...
We've become a video/youtube culture. I saw a video about the riots, and in one scene the footage was nothing but people holding their cellphones up apparently recording each other... 'smash, like, and subscribe! Peace!'
A considerable portion of these riots weren't rioters so much as they just want be amature video journalists.

Here's a video with a bystander who tackles a rioter that just attacked a group of police...

 

And so it begins: Leftist monkey wrenching is leading to civil war
06/13/2025 // News Editors /

If you thought that the leftist delusions of grandeur had finally hit their peak you are about to be unpleasantly surprised. There are no limits to the insanity that progressives will embrace in their pursuit of power, and they continue to adhere to the fantasy that they are the “good guys” despite the fact that most of the world has been telling them for the past several years that their ideology is repugnant.
(Article by Brandon Smith republished from Alt-Market.us)

is relatively predictable. There is a large enough percentage of the US population (around 25% to 30%) that is inexorably rooted in the ideologies of Marxism and multiculturalism. Many of them might not even understand what they’re supporting, but they’ll still do what they’re told by their gatekeepers.

For decades now the progressives have treated America like an experiment in social engineering; the US has been their personal multicultural playground. What has them enraged today is the fact that they are hitting a wall of opposition. They aren’t used to being told “No” and the only way they know how to respond is by lashing out.

The agenda is simple enough to understand – Open borders, third world replacement of the native population, a complete overhaul of our culture’s fundamental principles and ultimately the utilization of the foreign populace and leftist activists as a weapon to eliminate any resistance.

Interference on a political level is met with mob violence, looting, rioting and eventually terrorist actions and assassinations. This is the classic model of leftist revolutions throughout modern history. They seem to be disjointed and reactionary, yet their efforts end up highly coordinated and conveniently timed. There is nothing “grassroots” about these movements.

Currently, there is a push to make the LA riots go national with something called the “No Kings” protests scheduled to take place in cities across the country this weekend at the same time as the US Army’s 250th anniversary celebration (and Donald Trump’s birthday). The Democrats continue to spin the narrative that Trump is a dictator or “king” when he was duly elected by the majority of Americans and almost everything he has done so far is in line with what he promised during his campaign. All the usual suspects are pushing the spread of the riots, from NGOs to Democrat politicians to the corporate media.

There are some hilarious hot takes floating around social media concerning this event. Some leftists are claiming that conservatives are “running scared” and going quiet in the face of the protests. This is simply a lie. Conservatives are actually laughing at activists because the crazies still don’t understand the level of FAFO they are playing with.

Others are arguing for the secession of the west coast to Canada, which isn’t going to happen because an army of rednecks could invade and conquer Canada in a week. Canada has no capacity to protect themselves, let alone retain California, Oregon and Washington.

Finally, numerous Mexican and Democrat representatives are demanding the “return” of California to Mexico, claiming the lands were stolen. Of course, the US handed the Mexicans their ass 200 years ago and California was ceded to the US through the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo. To the victors go the spoils. Also, Also, Mexico belonged to Spain and was only a country for a couple decades before they were defeated in the Mexican-American conflict.

Apparently, the Mexican government needs a reminder of who their daddy is…

My point? There is a hailstorm of stupidity and naivety on the part of of the socialist mob and it’s getting worse by the week. They really think they have some kind of momentum. Progressive commentators including Bill Maher have been claiming that most of the country doesn’t want mass deportations, they just want violent criminals removed. They argue that getting rid of “Pedro the construction worker” or “Juanita the waitress” will be the end of conservative governance.

They still don’t get it.
The majority of Americans VOTED FOR THIS. They want mass deportations. All illegal migrants are criminals by definition and the public wants them gone. I’m even seeing most Libertarians (who often waffle on these kinds of issues) and black Americans call for illegals to be aggressively booted out.

Native born Americans want their country back and they certainly aren’t going to allow Democrats to flood the population with migrants so they can manipulate future elections. But the problem goes far beyond rigging the census or offering sweeping amnesty initiatives to create a voting block of third worlders. As we have recently seen in LA, there is an agitation plot afoot…

My primary theory on the engineered migrant invasion of the west has long been that these people are not just being used to score a voting majority in the near future, or as a tool for cultural replacement, but that they are a kind of mercenary army – An entitled mob purchased with welfare subsidies that will turn to violence to secure what they see as their piece of the shrinking American pie.

Read more at: Alt-Market.us
 
I found this new interview very interesting. Prof. David Betz, King's College, London is of Canadian origin and an expert in military strategy, and seems decently informed also by sociology, economics, political science, and psychology. He's careful, well spoken, non-alarmist, but all about a coming civil war that he's sure must happen. But he never mentions the USA. He's talking about European nations, and that if it happens in one, it'll spread. UK, Ireland, France, Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, perhaps others, all ripe.

I found interesting his explanation of how such a physical conflict could start (and how easily), how very complicated it would become, and how it would affect ordinary people's behavior. Around 32:30, host Andrew Gold asked who would be the two sides. Betz definitely supports what the Cs said and thinks people vs. state but it's not just two sides, which is what I learned was typical of most civil wars. It's more complicated than that.

73 minutes and worth a listen, IMO, though the talk doesn't really get going until about 20 minutes in. There is preliminary discussion about why the general population is upset at their leaders, and why he thinks there's no way to fix it, because of the nature of the leaders and how badly political conditions have deteriorated. He calls the failed leaders "post-nationals" but falls short of "conspiracy theory" territory and doesn't suggest these leaders are puppets or working together. But, that's not the point of the interview. Interested in feedback. Thanks.

 
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