Potential USA Civil War is a rising topic

[caballero reyes]

The Us may become like Europe, with very centralized power, only with a more efficient (AI-driven) bureaucracy. Time will tell.

Funny thing, last week I was thinking the same thing about Europe and the United States.

Yes, both with governments like children whose teacher asks them a question and they don't know how to answer.

As if the European governments and the US government didn't have a defined plan of government, just whims.

You say "time will tell," but we're already seeing this in the present.
They don't know how or they're not allowed to govern, but the consequences are the same. It seems they still yearn to live in the feudal system with centralized power, tyrannical feudal lords, clergy, and vassals, oppressed and hungry.

But this is no longer the time for tyrannies or kings.

 

[Mark7]

I checked the number of searches for "civil war" in Google Trends for the last five years, there is a slight increase in interest, with a huge positive trend around April 14 - 20, 2024:



I asked ChatGPT what happened around that timeframe that sparked such interest in the term. It was a movie and a few other things: 1. A24's AI-Generated Promo Art Sparks Outrage

On April 17, A24 released AI‑generated posters for Civil War featuring iconic U.S. landmarks in apocalyptic ruin. Viewers quickly called out factual errors—like incorrect cityscapes—and questioned the ethics of using AI in marketing, especially when the images didn’t appear in the film. Critics saw it as misleading and a cheap substitute for real artistry knowyourmeme.com+9news.artnet.com+9breitbart.com+9.

• Social media backlash:
  
  

  “Fire the person who approved this garbage… repulsive and insulting.”
  “Nothing in film matches these images. They’re selling something that doesn’t exist.” breitbart.com20minutos.es+1news.artnet.com+1

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2. Cross-Platform Amplification​

In addition to Reddit and Instagram, mainstream and niche publications like Artnet and Breitbart covered the controversy, amplifying discussion across the political spectrum breitbart.com.

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3. Film’s Box Office Success Fuels Conversation​

Having debuted April 12, Civil War earned a strong opening weekend for A24. Box office pieces—like a Rotten Tomatoes summary noting its dystopian premise—added momentum to the broader cultural discussion. The marketing missteps meant the film wasn’t just a cinematic event, but also a flashpoint in the AI debate rottentomatoes.com+1news.artnet.com+1.

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4. Bigger Debate on AI in Creative Media​

This wasn’t just another marketing gaffe—it became a flashpoint in the larger debate on AI art. Many saw it as symptomatic of a broader industry shift, where independent filmmakers are resorting to machine-generated visuals, raising concerns about transparency and integrity breitbart.com+1news.artnet.com+1.

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Why the “civil war” phrase trended​

The term surged not just because of the film’s title, but because:

• Visual shock value: Ruined landmarks tied the phrase to a visceral scenario.
• Moral panic: AI use in propaganda felt dystopian.
• Cultural crossover: The film’s themes resonated with current fears of division and unrest.

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Takeaway​

What looked like straightforward media buzz turned into a cultural flashpoint. Discussions about Civil War became about more than a movie—it tapped into anxieties over technology, authenticity, and social cohesion. The AI promo art became a lightning rod, causing people to project broader fears onto the film’s narrative.

Would you like me to track how the conversation evolved afterward or analyze top memes and clips?

Sources

This kinda jives with Laura's recent work with Grok, i.e., how social media (in conjunction with AI) is being used to fire up existing divisions between social groups.

 

[WhiteMountain]

I checked the number of searches for "civil war" in Google Trends for the last five years, there is a slight increase in interest, with a huge positive trend around April 14 - 20, 2024:

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I asked ChatGPT what happened around that timeframe that sparked such interest in the term. It was a movie and a few other things: 1. A24's AI-Generated Promo Art Sparks Outrage

This kinda jives with Laura's recent work with Grok, i.e., how social media (in conjunction with AI) is being used to fire up existing divisions between social groups.

The Movie "Civil War" was released on April 12, 2024 in the United States. That explains the search volume.

 

[Mark7]

The Movie "Civil War" was released on April 12, 2024 in the United States. That explains the search volume.

Yes, and it seems to have created a slight but ongoing increase in interest. Looking at the graph, it almost looks like we are due for another spike. Interest in the term spiked in May 2020 due to George Floyd's death by a policeman, supposedly.

In May 2020, searches for “civil war” surged notably—not because of literal conflict, but due to heightened tensions during the George Floyd protests. The murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020 triggered a global outcry, sparking weeks of protests, debate, and discussion around systemic racism, police brutality, and societal upheaval. This intense focus reintroduced alarmist language—including “civil war”—into public discourse.

Why "civil war" spiked in searches​

• Widespread protests: The uproar and mass mobilizations across U.S. cities prompted some to question whether America was nearing a more profound breakdown—or even civil conflict.
• Metaphorical language: Media, social platforms, and commentators used terms like "civil war" figuratively—highlighting deep polarization and the scale of unrest.
• Viral online discourse: Search engine and social media trends mirrored this sudden anxiety and fascination with dramatic terminology connected to the protests.

 

[Metrist]

Maybe civil war is not the proper descriptive - but domestic violence - indicating dysfunction on one side, and governance on the other.
So there is desperation, incitement and lawlessness on part of the democrats - rallying their subjects against governance, using them as fodder, but they really don't have their interests at heart, and so their motivations are confined to destructive ends... it is not a fight over control, but an attempt to maintain control by undermining it, then deflecting blame away. It makes no sense - like a domestic violence situation.

I like this video by Thomas Sowell, who has been commenting on the riots in L.A.

 

[seek10]

Here is a website that seems to have been created for training and coordination of protests. As per their map they have protests scheduled in 6 cities ( Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, Charlotte, Phoenix ) on June 14th.
No Kings

 

[Alejo]

That website is decently well funded, which means all these events are probably well funded as well, specially if you look at the page of training.

As far as a civl war, I'm not sure, I can see both sides of it, on the one hand I don't see the US Citizenry very war ready, in general and the majority are more concerned with other things, so if a scuffle were to come about, it may not last very long. So, no perhaps not.

On the other, I have been rather shocked at times with what some individuals actually believe and how far they're willing to go, admittedly, and a lot of decency and good sense seems to have gone, and I daresay it's by design, so that garnering enough crazies to push a conflict is possible, specially if you factor in elements from abroad, which I think it's possible.

Then I kept thinking about Euro Maidan, and some of the scenes in LA remind me of it, maybe the US will finally get its very own color revolution, which is in line with what has happened in other countries once they get an inconvenient leader, so why wouldn't they apply the same logic in the US? whether it will be successful or not is another matter altogether, but I can see them investing money into an attempt.

 

[axj]

One goal of this may be to not even have a successful color revolution but to force Trump and the Republicans into overreaching with police state measures in order to introduce the digital control system of the technocrats with MAGA support.

 

[Windmill knight]

There is also this:

Session 14 March 2015

Q: (L) The US is a powder keg. It just needs the right spark.

(Perceval) It's got all the right ingredients right now. You've got so many people in big cities dependent on supermarkets and stuff. And then you have the police state well-trained to deal with uprisings. In other countries, they don't have quite so well-organized police state to put down social unrest.

(Andromeda) And the people aren't quite as helpless either, at least in areas like this one.

(Perceval) In urban centers in the US, there are a lot of people who are just completely dependent on supermarkets and the system in general from one day to the next.

A: Notice that the USA is exhibiting all the symptoms of a "Color Revolution".

Q: (Perceval) So, someone in a position of power somewhere in the US is planning to sort of stage-manage the social unrest or revolution after an economic collapse?

A: More or less. However all may not go as planned.

Q: (Perceval) Well, the whole Ferguson, Missouri shooting last year...

A: Outside influences may intervene.

Q: (L) What do you mean "outside"?

A: Cosmic.

Then I kept thinking about Euro Maidan, and some of the scenes in LA remind me of it, maybe the US will finally get its very own color revolution, which is in line with what has happened in other countries once they get an inconvenient leader, so why wouldn't they apply the same logic in the US? whether it will be successful or not is another matter altogether, but I can see them investing money into an attempt.

Same here. It does feel manufactured or at least stimulated. It seems to me that the Democrats and/or Deep State set up a trap for Trump and MAGA. First there were peaceful demonstrations. Then they turned into riots and violence, 'spontaneously', like in Ukraine. Vandals got free equipment on the streets, found bricks lying around. They wave Mexican and Palestinian flags, they burn US flags, all of which inflame sentiments. The local police doesn't do enough fast enough to calm things down. Therefore the federal government sends the National Guard, then Marines. Then Gavin Newsom plays the 'martyr of the people'. MAGA people see the rioters and looters on TV and they are ready to go out on the streets and respond with violence. Then there are protests in other cities. Then things might escalate and people get seriously hurt and killed, etc. Meanwhile, some "Al Qaeda" guy calls on American Muslims to go kill Trump and his allies.

Who knows how far this will get. But I do remember that when the Ukraine 2014 coup started, the original demonstrations seemed to have nothing to do with the violence that came later, much less with the actual neonazi-sympathizing government that eventually took power. So a mess can still be created even when the vast majority of people want peace and quiet.

 

[PopHistorian]

Thanks for the responses, but, just a note, I'm not trying to control the topic, yet want to point out that I didn't personally intend it to detail more specifics of any particular action, happening, protest or other manifestation of potential civil war, nor how it might be spun and used by the PTB, nor to consider what it might mean in a greater spiritual context. I think we've done that work already. Rather, it's a practical matter of paying attention to reality and thus pushing back against normalcy bias (shored up by the frequency fence). I'm curious about discernible factors that may contribute to the possibility of a civil war (that the Cs have suggested is a reasonable possibility) that would have, I think, a palpable impact on most of the world that we'd all have to deal with in one way or another, and particularly those people in the USA.

There's plenty of evidence that current physical unrest (Los Angeles has been copy-catted to lesser extent in over twenty US cities -- spot-checked and that's real) is mainly a funded spectacle and a chess game, and there's probably plenty more money for that. Laura has made comments recently on X that the "head of the snake" must be the Trump team's target if it is to stop.

Next, June 14 will have the planned "No Kings" protests all over the continental USA organized by known NGOs.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932099522714632305

 

[Nienna]

This all put me in mind of Session 10 Oct. 2020. Please keep in mind that this was during the 2020 elections and Covid was the big thing going on, but I can see the energies talked about then being similar now.

Q: (Joe) How likely is it that there will be some major public chaos or civil chaos if Trump wins?

A: Very likely and will lead to martial law.

Q: (Joe) Imposed by Trump.

(Pierre) Yeah.

(Joe) So he's going to fulfill the role that they have given him of dictator! But is a lot of the chaos...

(L) One suspects that it may have been planned that way: he's being driven into the corner by all of the events in order to do what they want him to do.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Will a lot of the chaos in a certain sense be artificially induced?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Like paid groups out in the streets wrecking the place...

(L) But they're working people up. They're making people completely helpless and unhappy with the lockdowns. Then all of those people are having all of that anger and frustration building up inside of them. They're just powder kegs waiting to be ignited.

(Joe) We've seen that already with the Black Lives Matter protests not just in the USA but also in the UK. There were massive protests during lockdown that were allowed! It was like, "No lockdown for you guys." And they went into the streets partially because of the lockdown.

{...}

(Joe) So, martial law in the USA will be short-lived, right?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Why do you think that?

(Joe) Just to put the National Guard out to quell the riots...

(L) I don't think Trump is inclined to be a dictator, but he'd do what needs to be done to restore order.

(Joe) He threatened it once already during the Black Lives Matter protests. He's already set the scene.

(L) But think that whatever he does, he's not gonna get the USA out of the karmic hole it's already in.

(Pierre) Too far gone.

A: Yes

fwiw

 

[Mrs. Peel]

As per their map they have protests scheduled in 6 cities ( Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, Charlotte, Phoenix ) on June 14th.

While those cities may have the bigger "protests" there are numerous others planned all across the country. There is one in my area that won't give you the exact address unless you sign up to participate.

 

[Jones]

"It is unclear what the Marines will be tasked with once in LA - as they are prohibited from conducting law enforcement activity such as making arrests unless Trump invokes the Insurrection Act (after spending the last two days calling the protests 'insurrectionists."

Since some of the protestors are flying foreign flags and apparently burning the American flag Trump may not rely on the Insurrection Act. In his speech at Fort Bragg for the 250th birthday of the military he talks about the riots like they are an invasion and has blamed on Bidens open border policy. He seems to have a lot of support on this stance from the military based on how the soldiers are responding to his speech. He vows to go after those that are funding the riots. So on that basis he certainly could declare military law.

 

[seek10]

While those cities may have the bigger "protests" there are numerous others planned all across the country. There is one in my area that won't give you the exact address unless you sign up to participate.

You are right. I put my zip code it belong to town with 30000 people and I got 3 locations with timing etc. These are not part of big cities. I put another zip code in central jersey I got 5 places with 20 miles radius. No need of giving email or registration.

It is sounding like lot of places they are targeting and LOT can go wrong in this type of situation.

 

[Windmill knight]

Tempers are even flaring against the Mexican government. There is an AI-generated video that the agents of chaos are using to claim that President Claudia Sheinbaum is calling for protests in the United States:

Yeah, I don't know where they got the idea that she said that. Even Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused her of promoting violent demonstrations. In fact, in the original video you posted Sheinbaum said that everything should be solved without violence and through dialogue. Later Sheinbaum addressed Noem directly and said she never said that, playing a video of her actual words.

Now Alex Jones is running with this story and adding that the president of the Mexican Senate has a plan to annex southwest US. Really Alex.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932858078669529387

If you watch the video the guy is clearly trolling. He said he met Trump before his first term and told him, 'yeah, we'll build the wall and pay it ourselves, provided that we build it along the 1830 borders'. Then he proceeds to say that the original treaty demanded respect for the once Mexican inhabitants. Then, that the US government has the right to exercise its laws, but that it must be done with respect and dignity for the immigrantes, etc. So no, he wasn't calling for an invasion or an uprising.

Anyway, the point is that some people in the US are getting quite hysterical about this. They don't read or listen properly, they interpret what they want, and that only helps to feed the conflict. Here I'm hoping that people are smarter than that and all of this just fizzles out.