Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

The issue with Trump is that he is neither an experienced politician nor a state leader. He has been a TV personality and CEO for most of his life. CEOs focus on financial deals, hiring, firing, acquisitions and sell-offs with no thought given to the impact on people from their actions. The current economic system coupled with the prevailing legislation/laws supports the cut-throat business mindset. E.g. a person is fired from their job and they commit suicide due to the shame of failure or not being able to find another job. Or, their family's financial status is sufficiently impacted to cause one of their kids to take up crime and then go murder/rape someone. The company's manager or the CEO who instigated the firing is completely oblivious to the indirect/direct suffering caused and also protected by the law. Trump as a CEO may have caused such suffering by his decisions and actions which comes with the territory. Even so, the karmic debt from such actions is low compared to doing something on a larger scale.

When elected as a president or leader of a state, one cannot operate with a CEO mindset. Government is not business even though presently, there is little difference between the two under the hood. There are people dying and Trump is just parroting about making deals which is coming across as extremely insensitive. Whether he has good intentions or not; becomes irrelevant. What one says publicly from a position of power is often taken as truth, even on face value so, one needs to be careful about the message content and timing of delivery. What Trump says can have real repercussions for people on the receiving end, especially when a real war is ON with a potential nuclear threat. And, presently, Trump is losing all the goodwill he may have created on the international scene; can't say much about peoples of USA as hardly anyone thinks there and are likely busy dealing with their own issues. If Trump can't stop Israel then better to shut up and try not to be the loud mouth in the room and go back to fixing internal issues. FWIW
 
It's not much but, from the Kremlin.

Telephone conversation with President of Turkiye Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the Republic of Turkiye Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

June 16, 2025
14:05

The discussion focused on the rapid escalation in the Middle East. Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemned Israel's act of force against Iran, committed in violation of the UN Charter and other norms of international law.

Both sides expressed most serious concern over the ongoing escalation of the conflict between Iran and Israel, which has already had a significant death toll and is fraught with long-term consequences for the entire region. The two leaders called for an immediate cessation of hostilities and for the two sides to settle their differences, including those pertaining to Iran's nuclear programme, exclusively through political and diplomatic means.

It was agreed that the relevant authorities of Russia and Turkey will maintain close cooperation on the issue.

When discussing issues concerning Ukraine, Vladimir Putin expressed gratitude to the Turkish side for providing organisational support for the direct talks between Moscow and Kiev. It was noted that Russia strictly complies with the agreements reached as a result of the second round, including those concerning the return of bodies of dead service personnel and the exchange of prisoners of war.

In addition, there was an exchange of views on pressing bilateral matters, including the energy sector. This topic will be addressed during the Russian-Turkish contacts as part of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum as well as at the meeting of the Intergovernmental Commission for Trade and Economic Cooperation to be held in late June.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan extended greetings to Vladimir Putin and all Russians on the national holiday – Russia Day, celebrated on June 12.
 
The issue with Trump is that he is neither an experienced politician nor a state leader. He has been a TV personality and CEO for most of his life. CEOs focus on financial deals, hiring, firing, acquisitions and sell-offs with no thought given to the impact on people from their actions. The current economic system coupled with the prevailing legislation/laws supports the cut-throat business mindset. E.g. a person is fired from their job and they commit suicide due to the shame of failure or not being able to find another job. Or, their family's financial status is sufficiently impacted to cause one of their kids to take up crime and then go murder/rape someone. The company's manager or the CEO who instigated the firing is completely oblivious to the indirect/direct suffering caused and also protected by the law. Trump as a CEO may have caused such suffering by his decisions and actions which comes with the territory. Even so, the karmic debt from such actions is low compared to doing something on a larger scale.

When elected as a president or leader of a state, one cannot operate with a CEO mindset. Government is not business even though presently, there is little difference between the two under the hood. There are people dying and Trump is just parroting about making deals which is coming across as extremely insensitive. Whether he has good intentions or not; becomes irrelevant. What one says publicly from a position of power is often taken as truth, even on face value so, one needs to be careful about the message content and timing of delivery. What Trump says can have real repercussions for people on the receiving end, especially when a real war is ON with a potential nuclear threat. And, presently, Trump is losing all the goodwill he may have created on the international scene; can't say much about peoples of USA as hardly anyone thinks there and are likely busy dealing with their own issues. If Trump can't stop Israel then better to shut up and try not to be the loud mouth in the room and go back to fixing internal issues. FWIW
Well back in 1988 Trump was interviewed on Oprah Winfrey's show and he talked about tariffs then and talked about Japan-based unfair trade. He said he would run for President if things got bad enough but hoped someone would do what needed to be done. He kind of waited too long as far as the U.S. losing its self-sufficient manufacturing abilities via China and that was his main reason for running. The businessman in him saw that as absolutely horrible and he wasn't wrong. He may not be good at other issues that weren't the reason he ran for President but he kind of waited as long as he could (too long actually as I said) for a real politician to do what needed to be done business-wise and no one did. I got laid off by IBM in 2002 at age 40 and never worked again. IBM sold the plant and their PC business went to China. Trump does actually want to fix that kind of lose your job scenario but he likely kind of waited too long.
 
Nothing pacified him, nothing satisfied him. It is as if little by little he is being led to the conclusion that in order to finally calm down the unhinged Israeli government he has to be part of regime change in Persia and maybe then he can go back and focus on domestic issues and making deals the way he likes to do them. He is wrong.
I would say that the one who is not sstisfied is Israel, with its zionist virus, he was allowed to be there to fulfilled regime changes not just in Persia, and from time to time is being allowed to make some domestic issues in order that his voters do not feel so frustrated or cheated and can continue to do so with the approval of the majority.

Perhaps he did not count on the fact that most of them do not want any more wars because they have enough with domestic issues. So he has to look a bit good: "Everybody run away, I will not be able to stop the rabid dog, and I warned you that you should feed it, but you did not listen to me".
 
A very concerned Carlson and Bannon dig into the developing Israel/Iran crisis and its impact on the MAGA coalition and its three planks now under threat to be blown up by it all:


Chapters:
0:00 Will the Iran War Be the Downfall of MAGA?
6:55 Fox News’ Pro-War Propaganda
12:42 The Never-Trumpers Pretending to Be On Trump’s Team
15:30 Attacks on Anti-War Voices
25:48 The CIA Is Too Powerful
35:00 Why Is Tom Cotton Working to Keep the JFK Files Classified?
41:16 Lindsey Graham’s Warmongering Motives
48:30 Why Was Nobody Held Accountable for the Iraq War?
54:12 The Spiritual War Is More Evident Than Ever
1:00:53 The California Riots
1:08:55 Why Leftists and Neocons Are Scared of the Term “Nationalist”

DJT - the ultimate "bait and switch" president?

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The LIVE 4-hour post I made previously mentioned several times that Israeli authorities were instructing residents to NOT post vids of the Iranian strikes and the damage inflicted to social media. Probably have cracked down on that more now.
 
There is also the possibility that Trump is using what is happening in the hopes to get rid off or reduce Israels power over him and/or his country by: Making them believe that he will send real significant US power to finish off Iran while he will not get involved in the hopes that Israel destroys itself without US support. Wouldn’t be the worst idea. So far it doesn’t appear that this is happening though.
 
A very concerned Carlson and Bannon dig into the developing Israel/Iran crisis and its impact on the MAGA coalition and its three planks now under threat to be blown up by it all
Tucker is one of the very few rational voices left. He is now being attacked by a group of MAGA supporters, and now getting the support of some leftist… the irony!

Edit: Also Clayton Morris and his wife with the channel Redacted, very good analyst, although they have been a bit less vocal lately, specially after what’s happening to Carlson.
 
There is also the possibility that Trump is using what is happening in the hopes to get rid off or reduce Israels power over him and/or his country by: Making them believe that he will send real significant US power to finish off Iran while he will not get involved in the hopes that Israel destroys itself without US support. Wouldn’t be the worst idea. So far it doesn’t appear that this is happening though.

Also thought about this, but I don’t think he is fully able to ever do this, at the same time, I think people are underestimating Trump a bit, yes, he has done stupid things and has had bad advisers, I don’t think that would change much, but he went through hard lessons and I hope he has learned something, and who and not to really trust, and overall how to put and act to maybe not to stop things completely (most likely he knows he can’t) but make them to move slower than Israel would like, and perhaps gain time to make deals, or so he tries.
 
I have a person at work in my team who moved over to AU from Iran approx. 18 months ago and still has the extended family back home. I spoke to this person about the situation today and below is their words and understanding. They are in constant touch with their family in Iran even though phone coverage is sketchy.

1. The relatives were all based in Tehran and have now moved to a remote village to an uncle's place hoping to avoid the shelling.
2. It is extremely difficult for people to evacuate from Tehran, over 10M people and the traffic is chaotic.
3. There is no fuel available due to the refinery being hit which is hindering evacuations further.
4. The Iranian government is not letting out much information to the public about what's going on. They appear to be saying or maintaining an impression that things are OK, and under control.
5. People on the ground are getting their updates from social media if they find any working internet coverage.
6. As per this person, 90% of the people in Iran support the regime change.

Make what you can of the above but its not painting a very good picture for Iran.
 
Well back in 1988 Trump was interviewed on Oprah Winfrey's show and he talked about tariffs then and talked about Japan-based unfair trade. He said he would run for President if things got bad enough but hoped someone would do what needed to be done. He kind of waited too long as far as the U.S. losing its self-sufficient manufacturing abilities via China and that was his main reason for running. The businessman in him saw that as absolutely horrible and he wasn't wrong. He may not be good at other issues that weren't the reason he ran for President but he kind of waited as long as he could (too long actually as I said) for a real politician to do what needed to be done business-wise and no one did. I got laid off by IBM in 2002 at age 40 and never worked again. IBM sold the plant and their PC business went to China. Trump does actually want to fix that kind of lose your job scenario but he likely kind of waited too long.
Trump is overall a good guy so, don't get me wrong. He just isn't cut out for presidential power but he is all USA has got. And given his pride and ego, a powerful position can also turn someone like him into an ignorant tyrant.
 
I have a person at work in my team who moved over to AU from Iran approx. 18 months ago and still has the extended family back home. I spoke to this person about the situation today and below is their words and understanding. They are in constant touch with their family in Iran even though phone coverage is sketchy.

1. The relatives were all based in Tehran and have now moved to a remote village to an uncle's place hoping to avoid the shelling.
2. It is extremely difficult for people to evacuate from Tehran, over 10M people and the traffic is chaotic.
3. There is no fuel available due to the refinery being hit which is hindering evacuations further.
4. The Iranian government is not letting out much information to the public about what's going on. They appear to be saying or maintaining an impression that things are OK, and under control.
5. People on the ground are getting their updates from social media if they find any working internet coverage.
6. As per this person, 90% of the people in Iran support the regime change.

Make what you can of the above but its not painting a very good picture for Iran.

I would be careful to take assessments like the above at face value. Not seldomly it seems that people who have fled from the “evil regimes“ (like Syria or Iran for example) - that the west has labeled as such- tend to believe much of the western nonsense, or worse, are perpetrators of the ISIS variety themselves who have axe’s to grind with the “regimes“ from their former countries.
 
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A very concerned Carlson and Bannon dig into the developing Israel/Iran crisis and its impact on the MAGA coalition and its three planks now under threat to be blown up by it all:




DJT - the ultimate "bait and switch" president?


Didn't post - screenshot:

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The LIVE 4-hour post I made previously mentioned several times that Israeli authorities were instructing residents to NOT post vids of the Iranian strikes and the damage inflicted to social media. Probably have cracked down on that more now.
It is really odd. Most of the feeds that I watch had very few missiles at all last night. And even Al jazeera was not showing much (although Qatar is not exactly neutral either, their coverage as been much more balanced towards Israel than I expected given the nature of the BS attack). But I found these two clips from the Times of India that basically said that Israel got SMASHED last night and even referred to the censorship Israel had put out there (Hal Turner read parts of the order on his show tonight). India is not like an automatic Iranian ally. Here are the videos:
. The fog of war is very thick but it is really really disturbing if so many news organizations are standing by the censorship order and basically lying about how extensive Iran's retaliation is. Either the Times of India is lying for clickbait, or nearly everyone else is.

Here is another video that shows tons of missiles being shot last night towards the beginning:

The other interesting thing they talk about is someone they know that lives in Iran who has told them that the Iranian leadership has been completely captured by Israel itself. Their contact said that General Soleimani was the last general that really was independent and had the best interest of the Iranian people, and now thinking back to what I thought was an odd comment at the time where the C's suggested the Iranians wanted Soleimani killed. If Ben Nun is right about the infiltration by Israel, that would actually explain that comment whereas I was struggling to understand a reason for it prior. They also said that they were told the reason the pager attacks etc. could happen is that the charges in them were actually loaded when they passed through Iran - essentially Iran sold out their own proxies. The implication also was that is why all those generals were gathered in one spot at the beginning of the war - people within the government sold them out. Their basic case is that Iranian leadership has been compromised by the Israelis for the purposes of having this staged war that would fulfill the prophetic war that the Zionists think they need to take a primary position in world affairs as the spiritual capital of the world. They also talked about how Eduard Hodos another former Chabad member (the Ben Nuns used to be in the organization) who publicly wrote about being told about Putin prior to him becoming president that he was related to someone very influential in Israel and basically he was used to purge the oligarches in Russia not associated with Chabad (this is in another video). But the implication is that he is playing everyone like the Iranians, Trump, etc. They are all in on it to orchestrate some sort of end times war that benefits Israel. Personally I don't think it plays out like they think - too many people such as myself absolutely hate the Zionists now. No matter what "miracle" from Area51 tech they make look like "divine intervention" i doubt most would buy it. But the hypothesis explains as hell of a lot going on in terms of inexplicable decisions by various world leaders. Remember when the Israeli's basically downed a Russian plane by some manipulative tactic and Putin basically let them get away with it? Not to mention Putin's overall restraint in this war with the Ukraine?

The world truly is horrifying to watch now, and I really feel like the bad guys are winning :(. I cannot believe the number of "MAGA" people taking up for Trump when he just commited the war crime of Perfidy (using deception to lure people unexpectedly into negotiations so they can be attacked) and cannot even keep his lies straight anymore. After this past week, there is no question I prefer Biden or Obama to this amoral narcissist who only cares about his own press clippings (and probably just another puppet, a very unskilled one).
 
This doesn't sound good:


What did the Israelis tell Trump?
What an unfortunate position he is in right now; I can imagine his anger. Everything is falling apart. He cannot continue his economic policies to hurt China and reshape the economy via controlled crises. Disclosure of US-Israeli relations through the Epstein files would shake the Western world and is a Samson option for him and his family. Attacking Iran will be a major blow to his image, as the lies are so obvious, and he'll have very limited control over that as well. Poor guy, it must be a hell of a karma to be in his shoes right now. Hope his decisions will be different this time.
 

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