The United Kingdom has gotten this bad. Truly sickening.

Sorry for going off-topic but I feel this is somewhat relevant and it's a subject rarely discussed in the forum.

The subject is that social media for some people is a viable income stream e.g. YouTube and the like. The more engagement people can get to a video, the more "money" they get from creating content. This is a 10-minute video from a fitness influencer explaining and showing what he earns via his social media presence. I thought he broke it down well, showing how you can diversify your income stream from your content.

Mind you, this is from a fitness angle, but you get the point. Social media for content creator = money in their pockets.


Right, why have I brought this up. I'm bringing this up because it's well-known, and backed by various pieces of research that negative or controversial content drives engagement. Remember, more engagement = money for content creators who monetize their content.


You won’t believe the results:

“Despite there being more positive coverage in our article sample, social engagement was higher per article among negative articles.”

Memo report
Wow, what a surprise, posts that have a more negative than positive tilt generate more engagement online.

Which is the core of the problem with the current incentives of digital media, in that you’re going to get far more attention for saying something controversial than you are by providing balanced, unbiased reporting.

That then motivates the worst actors to adopt personas in order to align with this. You see this with sports media all the time, with commentators sharing the most illogical takes in order to spark subsequent debate, and get themselves more attention.


That’s now, unfortunately, filtered into politics as well, with partisan, sports commentator like perspectives driving more benefit in the social media age. Which is how populist politicians are able to gain so much traction, because they look to summarize incredibly complex political issues into simple, meme-style takes, quotes that can then be pasted over an image, and re-shared en masse.

The problem is, nothing is that simple. Yet, that’s what people want, good versus bad, right versus wrong.

Saying that one side of a conflict is in the right may, in itself, feel righteous, but understanding the full complexity of what’s led to that situation requires far more patience, nuance and understanding.

No one’s got time for that, so you end up with argument, and in that scenario, it’s not about who’s more informed or more thoughtful. It’s about right and wrong, based on whatever each person taking part chooses to believe.

And given the engagement that comes with negative content, you can also see how these simplified takes gain traction online.



I love a good social media debate. Sometimes, I’ll do a controversial or political post and let it ride; grab some SkinnyPop Popcorn, sit back, and watch everyone go cray cray.

It’s quite entertaining, and it drives up my engagement numbers, which kicks in the algorithms which push my posts to the top of everyone’s feed.

Mission accomplished. And no, I am not a sadist.

Negative bias creates greater engagement.​

According to AdWeek, Negative information is 63% more likely to be clicked on than positive information.

I noticed that when I do inspirational or personal growth posts, they don’t get nearly the level of engagement. They get a smattering of thumbs-up, care, and heart responses and maybe a few comments, but they don’t really spark an actual conversation between people on my page like the more controversial ones do.

Is this me saying all these guys making all these controversial videos are all about making money for themselves. That is, am I being extremely cynical to the extent of throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

Nope, I'm just going back to some of the core principles of the forum, which is about figuring out our automatic reactions system 2 v system 1.

I just think it's worth always bearing in mind that negative or controversy always drives engagement, and there are incentives to keep it that way because money is involved. That means that we are awash with negative stuff - you have the true negative stuff, but then you have all the false negative stuff. Why? Because social content creators want engagement and this is a cheat code to get higher engagement.

Recent examples, What's the name of that interstellar object, 3I/ATLAS, noticed how it's not just a rock, it's an alien spaceship coming our way. How wonderful... clearly an alien spaceship would drive engagement more than it being just an interstellar rock zipping through space. Ps, I'm not saying the Nephilim aren't on their way, for all I know they could be here by October.


I'm just saying that we have been evolutionary wired to be so biased at jumping to the worst possible negative conclusions from the smallest pieces of evidence (think caveman seeing leaves slightly rustling from his peripheral vision and immediately concluding a grizzly bear is in the bush) obviously because it pays from a survival perspective to assume the worst and be wrong, than assume the best and be wrong.

But does this wiring really work in the modern world if we blindly follow it, or does it leave our machine open to being manipulated?

I don't want to be a spoil sport by not just blindly believing the latest viral video going through twitter, YouTube or whatever. I thought I'd just go back to remembering some of the core principles of this forum.

Final thoughts, this guy who runs that modernity channel, I remember seeing him producing exactly the same content for so many years I've lost count how long he's been around for. Clearly it is his job... My question is, if his audience are into a specific type of content, surely he is imprisoned to producing that content until basically he retires and is no longer of working age. Otherwise he'll end up in a boring 9-5 (and none of these social content creators want that) or somehow reinvent himself online. Maybe I'm being cynical but I see this "doom and gloom" thing spreading at the moment about the UK as an industry that can probably be valued if someone cared to do the maths on it - just like there's a fitness online industry, there's a doom and gloom online industry (no other way to put it). I'm not saying we aren't all doomed (of course we are, think how boring life would be if we had nothing to worry about!), all I'm saying is doom has now been monetized, capitalised, whatever you want to call it. Worth bearing that in mind next time the next viral video whizzes through your twitter or YouTube page like the latest interstellar object whizzing through the solar system.

Right, enough of that boring stuff. Back to the topic of the thread - The UK is doomed. @axj we're all coming to Paraguay, better make some space.
 
Adding this to the current collection of data and information regarding lower income and homeless children being preyed upon.
The screen shot below was posted on facebook by a Canadian woman who relocated to London, England with her children.
They moved in 2020, when the Canadian government and the provincial shills in B.C. started doubling down on escalating the totalitarian script.
She maintains that yes, this is happening there, as well as worldwide , but not in the areas she and her children are living.
She says living in London is still much better and she feels safer than where they were, which was Vancouver, B.C. Canada.
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Well, in this case, don't trust anything. I guess if the police came out and said the earth revolved around the sun, that'd be false. 🤷

I think maybe people should believe whatever they want if that's the new paradigm we are living in.
That 'official' sources lie or cover up the truth on a lot of topics is hardly a new paradigm. That should be quite obvious if you follow this forum or SOTT.

Of course there is nothing to like about this, but we are here to see reality as objectively as possible. In some cases this means admitting to ourselves that we do not know something for sure, eg. what exactly happened in this case.

It seems particularly strange to engage in wishful thinking ("UK police can be trusted on migrant crimes") when there is more than enough evidence to the contrary.

I don't want to be a spoil sport by not just blindly believing the latest viral video going through twitter, YouTube or whatever. I thought I'd just go back to remembering some of the core principles of this forum.
Yes, there are also lies and misinformation on social media or Youtube from 'alternative sources'.

Right, enough of that boring stuff. Back to the topic of the thread - The UK is doomed. @axj we're all coming to Paraguay, better make some space.
It does not look good for the UK and many other countries. The US cannot avoid destruction in one way or another, according to the C's and other sources. The UK seems to have similarly accumulated quite a lot of negative karma.

I think it is always a deeply personal choice in which country to live. Trusting our inner guidance or intuition is a big part of it. I had a very good feeling about Paraguay before I came and I like it here - but it is not for everyone either.
 
I'm not saying anything. I wasn't there!

The police statement is that there was a Bulgarian couple in a park who were approached by kids, and one of the kids, as seen in the video had weapons.

I do not know what took place before the clip we have all seen, or after.

Here is the police statement, word for word





The police said so - see above. The BBC just reported what the police said.


Clearly what is missing is what took place before the video clip posted on twitter. Chances are the clip is longer than 10 seconds or however long it is, and the police have the whole clip the man recorded plus witness statements from other people who were at that park.
It's just the way you presented this info sounded like you agreed with that perspective.

This whole thing stinks to me.

Two, not even teenage, girls decided to arm themselves and harass migrants on the streets of Scotland.

Conveniently the migrant in question is innocent of any wrongdoing (as if it's difficult to find actual pedos and rapists in the UK right now). He also records the incident and then this recording ends up going viral.
For some reason, even though there's plenty of cases of migrants assaulting British children, the one case that goes viral is of a child assaulting a migrant?

I'm just not buying this.
 
They're was a great example of how the police work, guided from the top last year.
How the police handled the harehills riot in Leeds. Harehills is an predominantly immigrant area if that's the correct terminology. The police basically let the people riot and backed off. They ran away when it was getting heated.
Compared to how they dealt with the other protests after the little girls were viciously murdered. Very heavy handed with protesters and framed the whole demonstration as far right.
Regardless of people trying to control the narrative through social media.
There's real undertones of unrest imo and rightfully so. Unfortunately the ptb will probably use this to further their own agenda.
People are feeling the pinch in all areas of life and it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Can't help but thinking difficult times ahead for us all.
 
That 'official' sources lie or cover up the truth on a lot of topics is hardly a new paradigm. That should be quite obvious if you follow this forum or SOTT.

Of course there is nothing to like about this, but we are here to see reality as objectively as possible. In some cases this means admitting to ourselves that we do not know something for sure, eg. what exactly happened in this case.

It seems particularly strange to engage in wishful thinking ("UK police can be trusted on migrant crimes") when there is more than enough evidence to the contrary.


Yes, there are also lies and misinformation on social media or Youtube from 'alternative sources'.


It does not look good for the UK and many other countries. The US cannot avoid destruction in one way or another, according to the C's and other sources. The UK seems to have similarly accumulated quite a lot of negative karma.

I think it is always a deeply personal choice in which country to live. Trusting our inner guidance or intuition is a big part of it. I had a very good feeling about Paraguay before I came and I like it here - but it is not for everyone either.
I agree and disagree at the same time. I think you are using a broad brush to assess a situation and reaching conclusions that exclude nuances. In any case, I don't think it matters so let's leave it at that.

On the topic of destruction, there's a poem I go back to from time to time - Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley first published in 1818

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”


I think it was written during a time when there was a lot going on, Napoleon was around etc.

It's a good reminder that nothing lasts forever. So the thing about the UK, US or wherever eventually not existing is erhm, INEVITABLE. The same as Paraguay, or whatever country you can name. On a long enough timeline everything you know will disappear. This is part of the cycle of existence.

In any case, I only wanted to say that to a great extent, the UK, US or any country primarily exist in people's minds, they are not a real thing, like a mountain or ocean is a real thing. From up in the sky looking down, all you'll see are buildings, roads, cars, people, you'll see civilization etched onto the earth and this civilization will look the same if you're hovering over the land mass called UK, or the US. It's only when you get to the ground and engage with the people that you realise, "Wait a second, they all think themselves different, one thinks they are English, the other thinks they are American, another thinks they are Muslim and yet another thinks they are Christian"

All these things exist in our minds, in the stories we tell ourselves, but that's what it means to be human, so there's nothing wrong with these stories. I am saying this because when you say the UK will be destroyed, you fail to say what you mean.

Do you mean the landmass that we call the UK will cease to exist? If this is what you mean, of course, we're in an interglacial period so when the glaciers rebound, the landmass will be buried under miles of ice, and so will a good chunk of North America, Scandinavian countries etc.

Do you mean, UK, how British people identify themselves? As long as there are British people, or American people, as long as the stories people tell themselves about who they are still persist, then the idea of the UK or the US will persist. 🤷 Come economic armageddon, the plague, war, what have you, these are not enough to erase the stories people tell themselves about who they are.

Anyways, I know this isn't what you want to hear... Let's just keep it simple and conclude, "we are all doomed". 🙃

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It's just the way you presented this info sounded like you agreed with that perspective.

This whole thing stinks to me.

Two, not even teenage, girls decided to arm themselves and harass migrants on the streets of Scotland.

Conveniently the migrant in question is innocent of any wrongdoing (as if it's difficult to find actual pedos and rapists in the UK right now). He also records the incident and then this recording ends up going viral.
For some reason, even though there's plenty of cases of migrants assaulting British children, the one case that goes viral is of a child assaulting a migrant?

I'm just not buying this.

My reading of the situation is that there was an alteration between this migrant couple and a bunch of youth at a park.

What started the altercation is unknown, but there was a CCTV from a nearby supermarket that captured the whole encounter from what I gathered, so what took place is not unknown to the police.

I don't believe there is a cover up based on available evidence released to the public for this SPECIFIC case. For there to be a cover up, we would need to conclude that the police and this young couple have conspired together to cover up a crime to protect the migrant couple and arrest the kid with the knives. The only reason given thus far in all the online debate as to why the police would collude with this specific migrant couple is because they are migrants. Riiiiiighhtt, that takes some believing, but hey ho, crazier things have happened.

The question that remains unanswered is how did the girl come to have an AXE and knife in a park. Did she run home to collect these items to confront her attacker? If yes, why did she not come back with an adult?!?!?!?

Clearly the migrant got out his phone to film the girl because the girl had weapons. That's the reason he started filming.

Right, is it uncommon in the UK, depending on post code, for youth to be a bit crazy? Did anyone ever see this Story from a few weeks ago


The kids are, 16, 15 and 14 years old.

People acting like such stuff doesn't happen are living on another planet.

Anyways, none of these matters, none of us were there so we will never know. So for the sake of siding with the majority, let's conclude the young couple, for whatever reason, decided to get into it with a bunch of kids at a public park whilst walking to a supermarket to do their shopping. The axe and knife magically materialised into the girl's hands. 🫥
 
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Regardless of people trying to control the narrative through social media.
There's real undertones of unrest imo and rightfully so. Unfortunately the ptb will probably use this to further their own agenda.
People are feeling the pinch in all areas of life and it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Can't help but thinking difficult times ahead for us all.
Agreed. There is evidently a lot of emotional manipulation going on and its coming from a variety of angles. If, as most will do, you have 'favourite' idea about what's wrong with the UK and how it can be 'fixed', you will be able to find plenty of 10 second clips that are ambiguous enough such that you will be able to 'support' your favourite idea. It seems to me that many are willingly falling into that trap (present company excepted), which is really just playing into the hands of the PTB.

Social media for content creator = money in their pockets.
Yes, and I think we would do well to remember the prevalence of psychopathology in 'social media influencers'.
 
I think you are using a broad brush to assess a situation and reaching conclusions that exclude nuances.
My assessment is that we do not know enough about this case to reach a conclusion. It was definitely not sexual harassment as was claimed in social media, but we do not know how the conflict started.

The conclusion that UK police often give preferrential treatment to migrants is backed by a lot of evidence.

It's a good reminder that nothing lasts forever. So the thing about the UK, US or wherever eventually not existing is erhm, INEVITABLE. The same as Paraguay, or whatever country you can name. On a long enough timeline everything you know will disappear. This is part of the cycle of existence.
We are talking about the immediate future, not a long enough timeline for everything we know to disappear. It is true of course but has little to do with the matters at hand.

For there to be a cover up, we would need to conclude that the police and this young couple have conspired together to cover up a crime to protect the migrant couple and arrest the kid with the knives.
The police do not need to conspire with anyone to cover up crimes or give preferrential treatment. They seem to be doing it based on "anti-racism" ideology or possibly the fear of being seen as racist.

The girls claim that they were physically atracked by the man - which is the part that seems to be covered up by the police in its official statement.

I am saying this because when you say the UK will be destroyed, you fail to say what you mean.
I did not say that the UK will be destroyed, I said that it does not look good for the UK and that it seems to have accumulated a lot of negative karma. By that I mean primarily the UK institutions, but there may also be something like family ancestral karma involved or even the idea of the country as a sort of being or egregore.

You seem to want exact predictions or conclusions on things that none of us know for sure. What exactly did the C's mean when they said that the US is headed for destruction? We don't know what form this destruction will take or how much the rest of the world will be affected.
 
I'd stay away from that guy who runs that channel, not unless you are into the likes of Tommy Robinson and that type of characters.

I like Sargon and think he does good advocacy for the indigenous people of Britain. Is your complaint he's not Antizionist enough?

I found a couple of interesting articles about the UK.

The first is about the collapse of the aesthetic historical appeal to working class Britain in favor of addicts and "nons" in the 90's, and thenceforth into just utter chaos and hollow appeals (for example those during the funeral of Elizabeth II). It really does seem to me the elite have no real vision for the country. This journey is name the change from Social Realist Britain to Anti-Social Surrealist Yookay, which is becoming less and less British in every sense of the word.


This article by Millenial Woes talks about the end of the progressive left as an intellectual force in the country, arguing instead that its utility as a vanguard for the deracination of the country is no longer fit for purpose now that they continue to criticize Israel and Zionism. Instead there is more and more just naked ethnic self-interest running the show. Alongside this is increasingly losing the argument with the indigenous British, with Antifascist groups becoming increasingly outnumbered and unable to really assert the dominance they've been so used to since they became a client group of the UK elite during the Great Awokening (and perhaps far earlier).


Some footage of the protest at the proposed migrant hotel in Epping.

The left-wing counter protest was announced by antifa groups to be a failure:

One of the counter-protest organizers published a piece in the Guardian, and also a piece on Substack. I thought it was an interesting worm's eye view inside of the progressive counter-protests. It seems like the major organization group (Stand Up To Racism) was not playing ball with other groups and acting in all kind of deceptive and manipulative ways purely for its own PR and donation engine. It really seems like there was no appetite for actually fighting with the right wing groups defending their communities from infiltration and criminality.
 
I like Sargon and think he does good advocacy for the indigenous people of Britain. Is your complaint he's not Antizionist enough?

I found a couple of interesting articles about the UK.

The first is about the collapse of the aesthetic historical appeal to working class Britain in favor of addicts and "nons" in the 90's, and thenceforth into just utter chaos and hollow appeals (for example those during the funeral of Elizabeth II). It really does seem to me the elite have no real vision for the country. This journey is name the change from Social Realist Britain to Anti-Social Surrealist Yookay, which is becoming less and less British in every sense of the word.


This article by Millenial Woes talks about the end of the progressive left as an intellectual force in the country, arguing instead that its utility as a vanguard for the deracination of the country is no longer fit for purpose now that they continue to criticize Israel and Zionism. Instead there is more and more just naked ethnic self-interest running the show. Alongside this is increasingly losing the argument with the indigenous British, with Antifascist groups becoming increasingly outnumbered and unable to really assert the dominance they've been so used to since they became a client group of the UK elite during the Great Awokening (and perhaps far earlier).


Some footage of the protest at the proposed migrant hotel in Epping.

The left-wing counter protest was announced by antifa groups to be a failure:

One of the counter-protest organizers published a piece in the Guardian, and also a piece on Substack. I thought it was an interesting worm's eye view inside of the progressive counter-protests. It seems like the major organization group (Stand Up To Racism) was not playing ball with other groups and acting in all kind of deceptive and manipulative ways purely for its own PR and donation engine. It really seems like there was no appetite for actually fighting with the right wing groups defending their communities from infiltration and criminality.
My main reason for being weary of these people is I spent about 3 or so years in Telegram channels where they congregate, including Tommy Robinson's channel. What I observed was that a lot of people were attracted to this movement due to genuine concerns about the country, but in amongst this were lots of pathological types. There's definitely also power-moves happening with certain people jostling for position, eventually hoping to capitalise on power and position if the movement ceased government control. A few prominent characters in this movement are pro-zionist, which is finally the thing that made me leave all those channels as I couldn't stomach people cheering on the genocide of Palestinians.

In any case, one thought came to mind when in those groups where all the protests get organised from. Ultimately these people, at least the leaders, are about ceasing power.

As much as the current British government regime is bad, no way we want a character like Tommy Robinson (or similar) anywhere near the levers of power. We're talking wolves in sheep clothing here, probably bought and paid for by Zionists too.

Also, I was like, the security forces must be all over the groups. There's absolutely no way MI5 or MI6, GCHQ etc wouldn't be all over them.

Unlike the protest movement against COVID jabs which were all about body-autonomy, this protest movement (at least as per what I can gather from the telegram channels) has 2 layers - there's a layer which attracts people in which is all about genuine concern for the country, and there's another layer where certain people are using that genuine concern to elevate themselves to positions where if they win, they'll be leaders. I have no problems with people playing power-games similar to what we see in game of thrones, but the people rising to the top wouldn't be your Vladimir Putin's or the like - if you know what I mean.

So anyways, this whole thing isn't for me. To be honest, I don't see how these guys outmanoeuvre the security/intelligence apparatus of the country. All I see is chaos in amongst the population with the current ruling elite ultimately remaining in power. In my mind, at this stage of the cosmic game we are in, it's all about focussing on key individual lessons as that's the ticket out of here, as opposed to getting involved in game-of-thrones style power plays.
 
Also, I was like, the security forces must be all over the groups. There's absolutely no way MI5 or MI6, GCHQ etc wouldn't be all over them.
Here, I think, are a couple of examples from X in which such curiously provocative and speculative posts are made and attract thousands of disturbing responses, with people resigned, some enthusiastically, to eventual, violent conflict that, for me, raises a sickening feeling. And yes, surely they are being closely monitored by authorities. How many responses (and sub-responses) are real vs. bots, I don't know, but it looks like an example of "A: The extreme negative charge building on your planet" (Session 23 August 2025), and also an example of people or groups deliberately building that charge.

Glancing through these posts, I can't help but think that, just like the economic/societal decline, so much more of this mess is deliberately orchestrated, and a lot of it online. So, I wonder what is the grand plan of STS? What outcome do they really want from this particular situation in Europe? And how does the seemingly irrational British and EU leadership warmongering against Russia fit in with it?

 

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