The Nepalese are currently burning the government!

[Ellipse]

I'm not being patronizing. You said you were having trouble seeing the stakes. Nepal's proximity to China and India is an answer to that. Do I need to remind you of the CIA's history of destabilizing areas near the borders of countries where it wants to create conflict? With all that we've seen in the past, there's just no way it can be dismissed no matter how poor or insignificant it seems. Nepal has long been used by the West as a staging point against China. The Dalai Lama was essentially a paid CIA stooge for years.

Yeah but it's methodology which seems disproportionated to me. Did they needed to act quickly for whatever reason? Perhaps. I'm like Nević and I think it's not so simple on this one.

 

[axj]

For the moment the regime change hypothesis does not make much sens for me and private interests in play is actually a possibility.

Aren't private interests basically controlling the planet and much of the foreign policy of the West? The globalist oligarchy, the new technocrat gang, etc.

I don't know how Nepal can be used to drive a wedge between China and India, but I guess these people can be creative. The Ukraine operation was a big success for them, at least in the short term.

 

[Ellipse]

Aren't private interests basically controlling the planet and much of the foreign policy of the West? The globalist oligarchy, the new technocrat gang, etc.

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.

I don't know how Nepal can be used to drive a wedge between China and India, but I guess these people can be creative. The Ukraine operation was a big success for them, at least in the short term.

Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

 

[Fluffy]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.


Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

I think at some point with people will take matters into their own hands. May be I’m too optimistic or it’s simple wishful thinking but I would love to see this an actual putsch by the people towards their corrupt government. That was my first thought, so naive I’m sure, but not off the cards.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.


Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

Did they sold something to some western company recently, and then retracted the sale or resold it to China? Some river, valley, or some other natural resource or mean of big income? I dont know much, if anything, about Nepal, but something like that could trigger action like this.

I've learned not to trust "analyst" too much, because of two things. One, I caught couple of them not a having a clue about my country but giving very "hard" statements about it, and two, they think in patterns. While patterns are usually good for evaluations every pattern can be, and is - changed. One must have, beside patterns, greater knowledge of the subject being analysed to do the analysis properly.

 

[axj]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.

Does this distinction really matter or even exist when it comes to largely globalist-controlled Western intelligence agencies or their NGOs?

Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine.

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

 

[Ellipse]

Does this distinction really matter or even exist when it comes to largely globalist-controlled Western intelligence agencies or their NGOs?

It matter in the sens of trying to understand what happen and so being more aware by trying to have a more fine reading i.e being more conscious. Not easy for sure as the boundary is blurred. And I think the long term outcome can be different. Simply if the stakes are high, the state would be involved directly so it give a different reading.

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

Once again, it's about using such methodology I'm suspicious. There's a part of uncertainty introduced which seems unnecessary to me in a such country. But you'll tell me, they can do stupid things, I should not be surprised. The C's have told us enough.

 

[axj]

Once again, it's about using such methodology I'm suspicious. There's a part of uncertainty introduced which seems unnecessary to me in a such country. But you'll tell me, they can do stupid things, I should not be surprised. The C's have told us enough.

Sorry, I do not understand what you are trying to say. Trying to stir up trouble in a neighbour of China is unnecessary or stupid? Maybe it is or maybe they do have some plan that can work for them, similar to their "success" in Ukraine.

Not easy for sure as the boundary is blurred. And I think the long term outcome can be different. Simply if the stakes are high, the state would be involved directly so it give a different reading.

What does it mean the state would be involved directly? Since it is mostly intelligence agencies (officially a part of a state) and NGOs doing these kinds of regime change operations, the lines indeed blur almost completely between private interests and the state.

 

[seek10]

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

Indian social media narration is it is deep state act like in Bangladesh. Ultimate target is China. Weeks before Modi even announced going to SCO, there were rumors that they want to get rid of Modi. Modi who had been on fire since 2001 is man of his own, doesn't take these type of things so easily, doesn't talk these things openly, but shows in his own actions. It was a shock to Trump india joining China and it is evident in his reactions later. Though Trump seems to be softening, Modi is not going to trust Trump. Modi didn't even trust his own political godfather L.K.Advani when he became P.M and when he inaugurated Ayodhya temple which was L.K.Advani's 'baby' ( aka Masjid destruction in early 90's).

So these are aimed to knock off low hanging fruits like Bangladesh and Nepal. It puts more pressure on India and pushes India more into RIC orbit. What else one will expect from deep state, when Trump failed in his stated mission of controlling. Most Indians know Modi is the target and all motley crew of Indian opposition is watching like hyenas to pounce if the deep state succeeds in getting rid of Modi. I have to wonder about program change Cs alluded.

 

[Ruth]

I'm just sitting here wondering how much "influence" China had in this?

There is also a posibility that things are SO bad in China that they must concentrate on holding their own country together (translation - holding on by their finger nails to power before their own citizens turn on them). I hope they are wise enough to learn some lessons from another country, but I fear they are not.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Indian social media narration is it is deep state act like in Bangladesh. Ultimate target is China. Weeks before Modi even announced going to SCO, there were rumors that they want to get rid of Modi. Modi who had been on fire since 2001 is man of his own, doesn't take these type of things so easily, doesn't talk these things openly, but shows in his own actions. It was a shock to Trump india joining China and it is evident in his reactions later. Though Trump seems to be softening, Modi is not going to trust Trump. Modi didn't even trust his own political godfather L.K.Advani when he became P.M and when he inaugurated Ayodhya temple which was L.K.Advani's 'baby' ( aka Masjid destruction in early 90's).

So these are aimed to knock off low hanging fruits like Bangladesh and Nepal. It puts more pressure on India and pushes India more into RIC orbit. What else one will expect from deep state, when Trump failed in his stated mission of controlling. Most Indians know Modi is the target and all motley crew of Indian opposition is watching like hyenas to pounce if the deep state succeeds in getting rid of Modi. I have to wonder about program change Cs alluded.

In what way happenings in Nepal affect India and particularly Modi? I know only that Nepal is much closer to India than to China.

 

[seek10]

In what way happenings in Nepal affect India and particularly Modi? I know only that Nepal is much closer to India than to China.

India's geo political policy of 'neighbors first' is nothing new. Initially, it is based on migration effects and turmoil { job/economic competitions on a constrained resources, religious sentiments (Hindu, Muslim in North East), electoral reconfigurations (West Bengal and many others), ethnic solidarities ( Sri Lankan Tamil issue) } it stirs in a extremely diverse population. Some times these things take a form armed violence ( ex: Naxals). It is a headache India has faced over and over. In the case of Sri Lankan Issue, former Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi is even got assassinated by trying to resolve the issue. Later came, India-China competition, when China tried woo the small countries with infrastructure that nations doesn't need and large loans that they can't pay etc.

IMO, Western way of looking east in the name of specific groups through lens of the past is simplistic. True, Colonial subjects were created with fifth columns and sustained through divide and rule that fed the industrialization of the native lands at that time. Democracy by its nature of competition of rival candidates utilizes these differences in myriad forms. But suffering teaches some lessons and people will be sensitive to these mechanics.

If it happened to your neighbor, means it is nearer to you - like Russia feels of Ukraine's situation. This Western outlook of controlling the rest of the world is remnant of Colonialism (so called "civilized" education that was created later to cover it in the name of "progress").

I find it extraordinary to see the level of centralized control West able to exert during the last 200 years. It is based on common "secular" education ( which was very low even the early 19th century in the West), central banks, deep state's devils chessboard and its "democratization" of its means through technologies, corporations, USAID cells etc. When did in the pre-industrial world, this level of control exerted on large population across the world? All this looks to me programs that "some body" created for a purpose.

 

[Aeneas]

The person which the protesters wants as the new prime minister is the mayor of Kathmandu, a rapper called Balendra Shah. It so happens that he met last year with the US ambassador. One could see it as the US putting out feelers and seeing who could be useful. The string of events on the timeline with so much US interest in Nepal is just a little suspicious.

To the argument that Nepal is poor and with no resources so therefore it would be of little interest for a color revolution, one could then ask why all this American activity in Nepal by known regime changers and NGO's activity?

 

[nicklebleu]

The person which the protesters wants as the new prime minister is the mayor of Kathmandu, a rapper called Balendra Shah.

I think in the end it doesn’t really matter much if the fall of the Nepalese government was engineered, or if it was a popular uprising. The outcome is usually the same. If it is not engineered by the West directly, it has their groups set up ready to take over once the populace explodes. Every grass root movement is either engineered or hijacked from very early on: The subversive elements join the group leading the protests/ overthrows and start vectoring the movement in the direction they desire, eliminating any rational voice or aspiring leader along the way. Case in point Tea Party Movement.

I think it will be interesting to watch who will emerge as the new leader/ political force, which will point to the direction from which the nudging happens.

 

[Liliea]

This article from The Himalayan is dated August 21 of this year and can provide guidance or insight into the reality or context marked by mandatory media censorship, which is itself the subject of the article.
I know firsthand that many people in Kathmandu, who are very friendly, are aware of and truly fed up with the corruption that plagues the entire government, from the “hereditary elites” to the police officer on the corner. I suppose that, added to the events of recent weeks, the acts of resistance were a confirmation of this weariness that has turned into anger and is still not fully understood in the West because here the cushion of repression-welfare has not yet bottomed out. And as I read in a substack: “Protest is when I say I don't like this. Resistance is when I make sure that what I don't like doesn't happen anymore.”
And while the Nepalese ("Z"?) once again have their social networks, their uasApp—which is no trifle but on the contrary a fundamental tool for their economies and the one that offers true synthetic technology, the one that imposes poverty—
Now, without a doubt, as the article suggests at the end, the usual suspects will settle in to see how they can plunder what remains. This newspaper carries editorials on Nepalese politics that offer insight into this game of political powers that are ultimately connected to global governance.

Nepal's uneasy relationship with dissent: What it means for the future of open dialogue in the country
By Sakshat Pant
Published: 12:03 pm Aug 21, 2025

Nepal stands at a crossroads where the constitutional promise of freedom of expression clashes with historical legacies, cultural sensitivities, and government anxieties.

In Nepal, speaking out through music and comedy is no longer just about entertainment, it has become a risky act of defiance. Comedians crack jokes that expose social taboos, and rappers spit verses that challenge corruption and injustice. Far from applause, many find themselves facing legal and societal backlash.
While freedom of expression is guaranteed by law, in real life, it clashes with deep-rooted cultural values and a society that is still learning to accept dissent. Consequently, for artistes, the line between creativity and criminality is razor-thin. This article explores why Nepal's comedians and rappers are increasingly targeted, how the idea of free expression is still new and complex in our setting, and what it means for the future of open dialogue in the country.

(...) The right to freedom of expression is guaranteed by the Constitution of Nepal under Article 17. However, it comes with vague limitations. Clauses under Article 17 permit the state to impose laws restricting acts that threaten public peace, national security, communal harmony, or public health and morality. Such ambiguity allows the state to interpret dissent as a threat, often disproportionately targeting artistes.

Historically, Nepal's political landscape has been marked by long periods of authoritarian rule and conflict that severely limited freedom of expression. Under the 104-year-long Rana regime, power was concentrated in a hereditary oligarchy that suppressed dissent through censorship and intimidation, allowing little room for public criticism or political debate. The Panchayat system, a partyless autocratic regime established by King Mahendra, further restricted free speech by controlling the media and banning political parties, criminalising criticism of the monarchy and government policies. Similarly, during the decade-long Maoist insurgency as well, expression was tightly controlled by both the Maoist rebels and the government forces, with journalists, artistes, and activists forced to practise censorship. These historical events have left a lasting impact on Nepalese society's relationship with free expression.
(...)
Recently, the government has taken another controversial step highlighting its fragile grip on free expression and privacy. After a six-year pause, the state is preparing a new law called the "National Intelligence and Investigation Bill" that would legally allow intelligence agencies to intercept and record citizens' phone calls and other communications. The draft, currently open for public feedback, expands the powers of the National Investigation Department to monitor communication networks when deemed necessary to protect national security.
This is not the first time such a proposal has surfaced, an earlier attempt in 2019 and 2023 faced widespread public backlash and were shelved. The new bill's broad powers and low thresholds for interception reveal an anxiety within the government to tightly control information and surveil its citizens, reflecting a deeper unease with an evolving society where free speech and privacy are increasingly demanded but remain contested.

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Nepal's uneasy relationship with dissent: What it means for the future of open dialogue in the country

In Nepal, speaking out through music and comedy is no longer just about entertainment, it has become a risky act of defiance. Comedians crack jokes that expose social taboos, and rappers spit verses that challenge corruption and injustice. Far from applause, many find themselves facing legal and...

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