The Nepalese are currently burning the government!

[Ellipse]

I'm not being patronizing. You said you were having trouble seeing the stakes. Nepal's proximity to China and India is an answer to that. Do I need to remind you of the CIA's history of destabilizing areas near the borders of countries where it wants to create conflict? With all that we've seen in the past, there's just no way it can be dismissed no matter how poor or insignificant it seems. Nepal has long been used by the West as a staging point against China. The Dalai Lama was essentially a paid CIA stooge for years.

Yeah but it's methodology which seems disproportionated to me. Did they needed to act quickly for whatever reason? Perhaps. I'm like Nević and I think it's not so simple on this one.

 

[axj]

For the moment the regime change hypothesis does not make much sens for me and private interests in play is actually a possibility.

Aren't private interests basically controlling the planet and much of the foreign policy of the West? The globalist oligarchy, the new technocrat gang, etc.

I don't know how Nepal can be used to drive a wedge between China and India, but I guess these people can be creative. The Ukraine operation was a big success for them, at least in the short term.

 

[Ellipse]

Aren't private interests basically controlling the planet and much of the foreign policy of the West? The globalist oligarchy, the new technocrat gang, etc.

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.

I don't know how Nepal can be used to drive a wedge between China and India, but I guess these people can be creative. The Ukraine operation was a big success for them, at least in the short term.

Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

 

[Fluffy]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.


Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

I think at some point with people will take matters into their own hands. May be I’m too optimistic or it’s simple wishful thinking but I would love to see this an actual putsch by the people towards their corrupt government. That was my first thought, so naive I’m sure, but not off the cards.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.


Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine. So we can't exclude something had gone wrong and beyond what was planned.

Did they sold something to some western company recently, and then retracted the sale or resold it to China? Some river, valley, or some other natural resource or mean of big income? I dont know much, if anything, about Nepal, but something like that could trigger action like this.

I've learned not to trust "analyst" too much, because of two things. One, I caught couple of them not a having a clue about my country but giving very "hard" statements about it, and two, they think in patterns. While patterns are usually good for evaluations every pattern can be, and is - changed. One must have, beside patterns, greater knowledge of the subject being analysed to do the analysis properly.

 

[axj]

Yeah but in the context we refer to direct intervention of private interest, not through the gov.

Does this distinction really matter or even exist when it comes to largely globalist-controlled Western intelligence agencies or their NGOs?

Sure but the modus operandi for such a country seems odd. Nepal is not Ukraine.

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

 

[Ellipse]

Does this distinction really matter or even exist when it comes to largely globalist-controlled Western intelligence agencies or their NGOs?

It matter in the sens of trying to understand what happen and so being more aware by trying to have a more fine reading i.e being more conscious. Not easy for sure as the boundary is blurred. And I think the long term outcome can be different. Simply if the stakes are high, the state would be involved directly so it give a different reading.

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

Once again, it's about using such methodology I'm suspicious. There's a part of uncertainty introduced which seems unnecessary to me in a such country. But you'll tell me, they can do stupid things, I should not be surprised. The C's have told us enough.

 

[axj]

Once again, it's about using such methodology I'm suspicious. There's a part of uncertainty introduced which seems unnecessary to me in a such country. But you'll tell me, they can do stupid things, I should not be surprised. The C's have told us enough.

Sorry, I do not understand what you are trying to say. Trying to stir up trouble in a neighbour of China is unnecessary or stupid? Maybe it is or maybe they do have some plan that can work for them, similar to their "success" in Ukraine.

Not easy for sure as the boundary is blurred. And I think the long term outcome can be different. Simply if the stakes are high, the state would be involved directly so it give a different reading.

What does it mean the state would be involved directly? Since it is mostly intelligence agencies (officially a part of a state) and NGOs doing these kinds of regime change operations, the lines indeed blur almost completely between private interests and the state.

 

[seek10]

Nepal is like Ukraine in that it is a direct neighbour of a major US adversary, or potentially even two if you count India as well. A major difference is that it is landlocked between those two and much smaller of course.

Indian social media narration is it is deep state act like in Bangladesh. Ultimate target is China. Weeks before Modi even announced going to SCO, there were rumors that they want to get rid of Modi. Modi who had been on fire since 2001 is man of his own, doesn't take these type of things so easily, doesn't talk these things openly, but shows in his own actions. It was a shock to Trump india joining China and it is evident in his reactions later. Though Trump seems to be softening, Modi is not going to trust Trump. Modi didn't even trust his own political godfather L.K.Advani when he became P.M and when he inaugurated Ayodhya temple which was L.K.Advani's 'baby' ( aka Masjid destruction in early 90's).

So these are aimed to knock off low hanging fruits like Bangladesh and Nepal. It puts more pressure on India and pushes India more into RIC orbit. What else one will expect from deep state, when Trump failed in his stated mission of controlling. Most Indians know Modi is the target and all motley crew of Indian opposition is watching like hyenas to pounce if the deep state succeeds in getting rid of Modi. I have to wonder about program change Cs alluded.

 

[Ruth]

I'm just sitting here wondering how much "influence" China had in this?

There is also a posibility that things are SO bad in China that they must concentrate on holding their own country together (translation - holding on by their finger nails to power before their own citizens turn on them). I hope they are wise enough to learn some lessons from another country, but I fear they are not.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Indian social media narration is it is deep state act like in Bangladesh. Ultimate target is China. Weeks before Modi even announced going to SCO, there were rumors that they want to get rid of Modi. Modi who had been on fire since 2001 is man of his own, doesn't take these type of things so easily, doesn't talk these things openly, but shows in his own actions. It was a shock to Trump india joining China and it is evident in his reactions later. Though Trump seems to be softening, Modi is not going to trust Trump. Modi didn't even trust his own political godfather L.K.Advani when he became P.M and when he inaugurated Ayodhya temple which was L.K.Advani's 'baby' ( aka Masjid destruction in early 90's).

So these are aimed to knock off low hanging fruits like Bangladesh and Nepal. It puts more pressure on India and pushes India more into RIC orbit. What else one will expect from deep state, when Trump failed in his stated mission of controlling. Most Indians know Modi is the target and all motley crew of Indian opposition is watching like hyenas to pounce if the deep state succeeds in getting rid of Modi. I have to wonder about program change Cs alluded.

In what way happenings in Nepal affect India and particularly Modi? I know only that Nepal is much closer to India than to China.

 

[seek10]

In what way happenings in Nepal affect India and particularly Modi? I know only that Nepal is much closer to India than to China.

India's geo political policy of 'neighbors first' is nothing new. Initially, it is based on migration effects and turmoil { job/economic competitions on a constrained resources, religious sentiments (Hindu, Muslim in North East), electoral reconfigurations (West Bengal and many others), ethnic solidarities ( Sri Lankan Tamil issue) } it stirs in a extremely diverse population. Some times these things take a form armed violence ( ex: Naxals). It is a headache India has faced over and over. In the case of Sri Lankan Issue, former Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi is even got assassinated by trying to resolve the issue. Later came, India-China competition, when China tried woo the small countries with infrastructure that nations doesn't need and large loans that they can't pay etc.

IMO, Western way of looking east in the name of specific groups through lens of the past is simplistic. True, Colonial subjects were created with fifth columns and sustained through divide and rule that fed the industrialization of the native lands at that time. Democracy by its nature of competition of rival candidates utilizes these differences in myriad forms. But suffering teaches some lessons and people will be sensitive to these mechanics.

If it happened to your neighbor, means it is nearer to you - like Russia feels of Ukraine's situation. This Western outlook of controlling the rest of the world is remnant of Colonialism (so called "civilized" education that was created later to cover it in the name of "progress").

I find it extraordinary to see the level of centralized control West able to exert during the last 200 years. It is based on common "secular" education ( which was very low even the early 19th century in the West), central banks, deep state's devils chessboard and its "democratization" of its means through technologies, corporations, USAID cells etc. When did in the pre-industrial world, this level of control exerted on large population across the world? All this looks to me programs that "some body" created for a purpose.

 

[Aeneas]

The person which the protesters wants as the new prime minister is the mayor of Kathmandu, a rapper called Balendra Shah. It so happens that he met last year with the US ambassador. One could see it as the US putting out feelers and seeing who could be useful. The string of events on the timeline with so much US interest in Nepal is just a little suspicious.

To the argument that Nepal is poor and with no resources so therefore it would be of little interest for a color revolution, one could then ask why all this American activity in Nepal by known regime changers and NGO's activity?