Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

Not true, as per the poster's own replies and those of others. It's a Mauser.
Joh Cullen, I remember, was posting all kinds of nonsense theories about the Butler shooting. I strongly got the impression then that he was deliberately trying to distract and create false leads. And, if I remember correctly, he got really angry at people questioning his theories and his 'authority'. Paid shill, is my guess.
 
This post brings up the idea that a shooter the on the top of the Losee building at UVU would have line of site obstructed by the tent that Charlie was sitting under. It's not just about how many stories high the Losee building is, and I haven't been able to find any info about that, but also that the courtyard where Charlies tent was is kind of dug out and terraced like an ampitheatre. If indeed the line of site would have been obstructed by the tent, then that might explain the failure of Charlies security detail or the police on sight from doing roof sweeps. Or maybe the real shooter wasn't on the roof at all.

My colleague who I've worked with for years-(he's an ex-Navy Seal and runs high level security for events like the Super Bowl, etc.)

"Tell those keyboard warriors that they can't hit a deer with grandpa's rifle. No. A 10-year-old could NOT have pulled off that shot under THOSE circumstances. GTFOH

This is a much more complicated operation than just climbing on the roof with a gun and shooting. You have to take into account line of sight, he was under a tent, ballistic drift and wind speed. Given where Charlie was positioned underneath that tent-the math would say that the building had to be under four stories tall or 40 feet. Otherwise, that tent would mask the shot. Then you have to take into account that you truly have one shot. This isn't casual hunting day with the boys...this is a murder if you flinch or give away your position...its game over.

The man travelled with a security team but there was no roof sweeps? No one watching the obvious "sight lines" Nahhh. I'm not buying that. Charlie obviously wore a jacket. That would be a known. I'm calling it. It was probably a 7.62mm which is a high-power caliber round-most likely out of a sniper rifle. The sniper rifle is easier to breakdown and is lighter to carry. Whoever did this? Was a professional. That shooter will never be found. This is just like the JFK assassination-they may have a patsy but the real shooter is long gone."
 
I kept scrolling on social media, listening and watching today and I really don't remember the last time when I've seen so much public hatred, crazyness and call for murder. I even saw a guy who is selling a 3D printed model of Charlie getting shot as trophy for people who want to remember this day ! Something has been triggered to lead to this point
The deliberate division and pathological programming of society has been going on for multiple decades at this point.
This is just the point where it is becoming blatantly obvious. The seeds planted long ago are sprouting and bearing their sickened fruits.

On that note, here’s an article with some thoughts on recent events that I agree with.
It shows the results of the deliberate policies and the programming.
The only angle I can see he’s missing is that of pathology/ponerology
 
Now there's some speculation that the shooter was actually a Groyper (the online troll community who are Nick Fuentes fans). So far I've seen the claim from a tweet from an unknown 'journalist', Tiktokers posting about the memes, and looks like Fuentes responded to the claim last night:

“My followers and I are currently being framed for the murder of Charlie Kirk by the mainstream media based on literally zero evidence,” said Fuentes on X:


Newsweek published this article yesterday: "What Is a 'Groyper'? What to Know About Nick Fuentes' Alt-Right Movement" and
made this pretty unsubstantiated claim:

Social media users have also questioned whether early claims by officials that the suspect, apprehended late Thursday, was tied to left-wing extremism were premature, pointing instead to possible links to the far-right.

As of Friday afternoon, it remained unclear what the motive was in the Kirk shooting, or the political ideology of the alleged gunman. Robinson's family said he had become "more political" in recent years, according to police. The markings on the bullet casings suggest the subject was steeped in meme culture and made references to online taunts and anti-fascist messages.

Which in turn looks based on this tweet:


It was interesting that less than a month ago Fuentes was blowing up on Youtube and Instagram (like the algorithims were seriously pushing videos about him, oddly all in a positive light), and now this. And just weeks ago Fuentes was coming down especially hard on Charlie Kirk. If all this starts to track, it looks like there has been something like a 'priming of the American mind' as we saw in Evidence of Revision with the JFK assassination.

Could very well be that Robinson was groomed in Groyper groups, and assisted in some way in the assassination.
 
A few inconsistencies.

1) the video of the man getting off the roof without a gun. The explanation is the gun was dismantled quickly after the shot and put in backpack/clothing

2) The gun was found intact in the woods

3) shooter takes time after shot to dismantle gun but then when on the run takes time to put gun back together and leaves it behind

I know people aren’t logical and there is unexplained randomness in actions but to take time and put the gun back together when escaping is strange

Also if you know about the type of rifle it not easy/quick to dismantle/put back together
 
On that note, here’s an article with some thoughts on recent events that I agree with.
It shows the results of the deliberate policies and the programming.
The only angle I can see he’s missing is that of pathology/ponerology
I agree with you there - I came across that article yesterday. Iryna Zarutska was another tragic and senseless loss.
Without saying too much about the article for those who want to read it, I thought John Carter made an interesting point about mad, rabid dogs and what can justly be done about them, though that could probably extend to the owners as well. My thought: for 'mad rabid dog', read 'programmed OP / patsy'. For 'dog owner', read 'essential psychopath'.
 
Apparently Robinson's father, a former deputy sheriff
His father's profession has been updated: Matthew Robinson was never a sheriff.

From Newsweek:

Early reports indicated Matt Robinson, the suspect's father, was a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff's Department. However, a spokesperson for the Sheriff's office told Newsweek that there was no connection.

In a post on Facebook, the Washington County Attorney's Office wrote:

"The individual arrested is NOT related to Washington County law enforcement! There are multiple people with the same names. We thank our local and federal law enforcement officials for their coordination in the investigation and arrest."

Instead, as per the BBC:

Social media accounts indicate Robinson's father runs a kitchen countertop and cabinet installation business, while his mother is a social worker. The family is Mormon and active in the local church.

MSM, as usual, is generally crap at sleuthing!
 
Where is this 5 part series, Joe? Had a look on the forum and must of missed it, and also looked on her Twitter/X link.
Here it is on Substack:


Another similarity with last year's near-miss against Trump in Butler, PA: a super-fast drone zipping overhead at the time of the shooting:

Looks more like a bug to me!
It's run by an Israeli-American. I don't trust them an inch.
I doubt the cops interviewing the roommate or giving the statement could even tell the difference between discord and any other social media/chat app. My guess is that the roommate showed the cops discord messages AND text messages, and they were just sloppy in describing which were which, but that should be cleared up if/when it comes up at the trial.
Joh Cullen, I remember, was posting all kinds of nonsense theories about the Butler shooting. I strongly got the impression then that he was deliberately trying to distract and create false leads. And, if I remember correctly, he got really angry at people questioning his theories and his 'authority'. Paid shill, is my guess.
Yep. Cullen will be right some of the time, but if you want to apply a useful heuristic, assume the truth is the opposite of everything he says and you'll be right 95% of the time.
Now there's some speculation that the shooter was actually a Groyper (the online troll community who are Nick Fuentes fans). So far I've seen the claim from a tweet from an unknown 'journalist', Tiktokers posting about the memes, and looks like Fuentes responded to the claim last night:
I doubt he's a groyper. Shuster works for TYT and his tweet is unsourced. He retweeted this tweet, which just shows that he's internet illiterate:
He's been tweeting total nonsense about Robinson, including retweeting Keith Olbermann. I think he's just an insane leftist.
Another important detail about Tyler Robinson comes out:

Interesting. "Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter." Might match with my speculation above about Discord/texts.
 
In the members defense; they protested by banging on their desks. (in X video)

'A Minute Silence For George Floyd But Not For Charlie Kirk?' - EU Parliament Leaders Reject Request​


He opened by urging MEPs to “strongly condemn political violence and rhetoric that incites violence” and asked colleagues to “stand with me in a reflection of prayer in his honor.”

“We have discussed this, and you know the president said no to a minute of silence,”



Full Article below:

 
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in 2020, he donated $30 to ACTBLUE.... and months later to MAGA for over $200

Makes no sense to me...it was said that he did not vote in 2024, his first election eligible.

also, this was FIVE YEARS ago....he would have been 17....what 17 yo donates money to political groups?? Especially ones opposing each other. This whole thing stinks to hell. Once again, our govt is hiding the truth from us....we are such children and they know better.
 
Maybe the next event will be Robinson's assassination (a la Oswald - Ruby) before his court appearance. His body armor should be more extensive than Charlie's and jail surveillance and security better than Epstein's.
 
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in 2020, he donated $30 to ACTBLUE.... and months later to MAGA for over $200

Makes no sense to me...it was said that he did not vote in 2024, his first election eligible.

also, this was FIVE YEARS ago....he would have been 17....what 17 yo donates money to political groups?? Especially ones opposing each other. This whole thing stinks to hell. Once again, our govt is hiding the truth from us....we are such children and they know better.
These are two different people - one from St. George and the other from Salt Lake City. St. George is close to Washington, UT, where Robinson lived. Tyler Robinson is a common enough name that it could just be another person.
 
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