How do humans change the cycle for 1D and 2D?

[axj]

One and two density beings would exist in physicality without humans and evolve because they are in concert with higher consciousness instructing growth through cosmic forces.

Would 2D beings be in physicality at all (shortwave cycle) without 3D beings who chose physicality, instead of an ethereal longwave cycle?

This makes me wonder now if there’s something akin to an organic portal for 1st to 2nd density, what about from 3rd to 4th

Since OPs are the natural progression from 2D to 3D, I suppose all beings or group souls who recently graduated to a higher density are the equivalent of OPs.

 

[John G]

1D through 3D would probably not fit vibrationally in 4D. I think the densities are sort of a "vertical progression", while each density also has different "horizontal" worlds - physical, ethereal, astral, etc.

From the 8/28/99 session:

Q: Well, this is one of the problems I am dealing with in
trying to write this history of mankind. As I understand it, or
as I am trying to figure it out from the literature, prior to the
'Fall in Eden,' mankind lived in a 4th density state. Is that
correct?
A: Semi/sort of.
Q: Please be more specific.
A: 4th density in another realm, such as time/space
continuum, etc.

They've also said there will be birds singing in some fashion in 4th density. The sort of/some fashion is maybe a bidensity thing of sorts. It's like we have birds and rocks here with us in the same physics environment but there is an awareness difference. The physics environment for 4th density may be via Ark a degenerate metric but the awareness of the lower than 4th density denizens would make the experience different for each density. The thing that's a little odd is that perhaps 3D STO is stuck being ethereal before the Fall while 3D STS is stuck being physical until the Wave.

 

[msasa79]

Yes, the two answers from the C's regarding the longwave cycle seem to contradict each other (maybe a transmission error in early sessions).

Frankly, I do not see contradiction there; long wave cycles of existence are of two varieties: purely ethereal and purely physical.

For example, on 6D they are ethereal and of STO polarization or magnetization like the C's and other unified thought forms there, as there is no physicality above 4D and STS does not really exist on 6D except as a kind of a reflection and balancing concept, but not as an individual being per se.
On the 'other side' of creation, 1D and 2D beings on a long wave cycles of existence might be purely physical, even maybe long wave cycles of 1D and 2D could be only purely physical, and without a STO vs STS polarization or magnetization per se as that soul choice becomes actualized on an individual level from 3D up.

That long wave cycles there on lower awareness density levels could be only purely physical is inferred on the basis that 1D represents mineral world which is basically of physical nature and endowed with just a basic 'individual' consciousness or awareness or soul imprints. If something that the C's referred to as elementals also represent a 1D beings, then long wave cycles of existence on 1D (and 2D) could also naturally be purely ethereal.

As I see it, 1D and 2D beings, short and long wave cycles of existence alike, do not involve individualized soul 'progression', as there are no individualized souls there, but what 'moves' toward reunion with the DCM is the soul pool of the species or let's say their collective consciousness, until it reaches the 3D where 'first' individualization or particularization of that collectiveness occurs.

It is still in a bit of a haze though what actually happens when a pet, a dog or a cat for example, of a 3D human being reaches the threshold of 3D through its interactions with the human owner, like the C's said about Laura's dog for example. Is that particular pet's consciouness incarnated 'next' as a 3D human on Earth as that's the only genetic configuration or body that sustains 3D soul matrix on our planet, at least to my understanding, or on some other place in universe where genetic bodies exist that are more suitable for a 3D dog-like or cat-like soul matrices? That one particular 2D beings' consciousness that reached the threshold of 3D individualized soul could 'bring' the whole soul pool of that collective to the 'next' awareness density level in the same environment does not seem very realistic, especially as we have preadamic humans here as a sort of a bridge between 2D and 3D, but it doesn't seem completely impossible though.

But, I guess that line of inquiry falls in sort of off topic area of this thread.

 

[Fluffy]

Transcripts state as viri to be transdensity , so below 3rd i'd say no similar thing to OP's , and no individuation as well which possibly makes it the same with regards to 3rd to 4th transition as well , though this later one may be variable , among other circumstances such as 2nd density transitioning along 3rd to 4th , which transcripts state as possible . My 2x cents.

On one of my mushroom trips many many moons ago I tuned into a blade of grass. For that moment I was that blade of grass, I was taller and stronger than the other blades and I’d reached the point of consciousness where I no longer wanted to be a plant anymore and was signalling in grass language that ‘I’m ready to move forward’ to the animal world.

I’d love to know the process of how that evolution happened.

 

[Fluffy]

Would 2D beings be in physicality at all (shortwave cycle) without 3D beings who chose physicality, instead of an ethereal longwave cycle?

May be it’s more like, would 3D beings exist in short wave without the impetus of 4D beings who are our physical creators? What a loaded question

Didn’t the C’s say 6th density creates worlds and 4th density creates the creature that inhabit them?

 

[msasa79]

May be it’s more like, would 3D beings exist in short wave without the impetus of 4D beings who are our physical creators? What a loaded question

Didn’t the C’s say 6th density creates worlds and 4th density creates the creature that inhabit them?

4D STS might have created our genetic bodies, but they didn't create us as in our souls. We as souls have chosen to experience physicality as a part of duality of short wave cycles in the STS environment, in part for the sake of faster rate of progression compared to the long wave cycles of STO ethereal type we were probably 'inhabiting' before the Fall.

The C's said that 4D STS provided the genetic physical bodies and were 'waiting' for the right soul matrices to 'jump in'. By entering those bodies as our 'new' physical vehicles, we as souls changed their genetics, and 'then' STS 4D altered the bodies which affected us as souls inhabiting them.

That's the short version of what I understood of the C's 'human creation story' shared by Laura in the Wave series.

 

[Ruth]

I thought the "short wave cycle" implied STS and "long wave cycle" implied STO? The "short wave cycle" puts stress on an organism forcing (or shall we say 'encouraging') them to change and adapt. The "long wave cycle" doesn't do that and so things stay the same for long periods of time. I could be wrong about that, though.

 

[axj]

Frankly, I do not see contradiction there; long wave cycles of existence are of two varieties: purely ethereal and purely physical.

That's not what the C's said in either of those two sessions though.

I thought the "short wave cycle" implied STS and "long wave cycle" implied STO?

I think the C's mentioned that there are 3D STO physical (short wave cycle) planets too:

November 26, 1994

Q: (T) Is there a 3D race in this universe that is STO?

A: Yes. Already stated thus.

Q: (L) If there are planets with STO beings...

A: Some look like you.

 

[Fluffy]

That's not what the C's said in either of those two sessions though.

They said that the short wave cycle is half physical half ethereal and that the purpose of it was for those souls that wanted to speed up their growth and knowledge.
Below suggests that flora and fauna exist in both long wave and short wave and their evolution is also sped up through the short wave interaction of the group mind choosing physicality.



October, 22 1994

Q: (L) Are human beings entrapped in physical matter?

A: By choice.

Q: (L) Why did they make this choice?

A: To experience physical sensations. It was a group mind decision.

Q: (L) Who was in charge of the group?

A: The group.

Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to other beings?

A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle. Going back to your previous question about why humans are "entrapped" in physical existence, which, of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half. The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

Q: (L) Does this interaction produce a by-product?

A: It produces equal by-products of a positive and negative nature.

Q: (L) And what are these by-products?

A: Which one first?

Q: (L) Positive.

A: Positive by-product is an increase in relative energy which speeds up the learning process of the soul and all of it's one dimensional and two dimensional interactive partners. In other words, flora and fauna, minerals, etc. All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a faster rate on the cycle through this short wave cycle physical/ethereal transfer. Of a negative nature, it also produces many negative experiences for these very same entities which otherwise would not exist because being of a first level and second level nature, flora and fauna would ordinarily experience a long term or long wave cycle on the physical plane as opposed to a short wave cycle physical and ethereal, as they do now because of their interaction with the human species in its short wave ethereal/physical cycle